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Saxophone Tuesday Open Thread

by dvx Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 12:04:37 PM EST

What do we need to reed?


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Let's start with this:

The lineup:

YouTube - Ornette Coleman Quartet :: Roma 1974 #1

Ornette Coleman: saxo ; James Ulmer: guitarra ; Sirone: bajo; Billy Higgins: batería


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 12:07:54 PM EST
I'd have enjoyed that a lot more without the truly horrible guitar work.

but that's a guitarist speaking

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 08:02:34 AM EST
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Bassoons:



Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 12:11:24 PM EST
On Eurozone budgetary constraints « naked capitalism
On Eurozone budgetary constraints

Cross-posted from Credit Writedowns

"Slovenia becomes the new problem child of the EU". This is the headline today in Handelsblatt, a leading German financial newspaper. Below is a translation of that article and a few comments:

Slovenia was long regarded as a model country. But now it is becoming a new problem case for the euro-zone. The government needs to cut vigorously to avoid Greece's fate.

Jean-Claude Juncker, chairman of the Euro group, and Luxembourg's Prime Minister, has called on the small country to take drastic cost-cutting efforts.The government in Ljubljana must not increase the national debt. Otherwise a fate similar to Greece's could threaten Slovenia.

In 2007, Slovenia was the first Eastern European EU country to join the euro zone. The small country of two million inhabitants has long been regarded as economically sound. But since the financial crisis, the national debt has grown from year to year. According to the latest estimate by the EU Commission, the budget deficit for the year will have risen to 5.8 percent of gross domestic product (GDP). In 2010, the ratio stood at 5.6 percent. The public debt will account for 42.8 percent of GDP in December. A year earlier, it was 38 percent. Euro group chief Juncker criticized foremost that the Slovenian population rejected the revamping of the state pension system and an increase of the retirement age in a referendum earlier this month. "Slovenia must now get to grips with problems elsewhere. An agreement on pension reform would have been the easiest way," Juncker said, according to the Slovenian news agency STA. The government must now take "quick and brutal" decisions.

Another target lined up?
Hard to see how the eurozone gets out of the crisis loop without addressing the deflationary bias (mentioned later in the NC piece...)

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 01:17:04 PM EST
If you're small, you must be guilty.  Since when was a 42% debt/GDP ratio a big problem?

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 01:33:11 PM EST
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Has nothing to do with debt ratio at this stage. EU has proven to be willing to shill out a lot to euro speculators rather then kill the speculation. Smaller economies demand less stack of betting chips to bring down.

Slovenia had 4% more imports then exports last year, but I am not even sure that matters anymore. If the EU is willing to pay through its noose untill the euro collapses, then it will pay through its noose untill the euro collapses.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:06:28 PM EST
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A swedish kind of death:
pay through its noose

very apropos typo...

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 03:54:01 PM EST
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Has anyone mentioned that Juncker as Chairman is a bit of a problem? I mean, isn't it a liability to have the PM of Luxembourg in so high a position in the middle of a banking crisis when his home country itself is much less than transparent when it comes to banks enabling the rich to squirrel away money.  
by Upstate NY on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:33:42 PM EST
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So I guess we need a clarinet, huh?

And check out who else is playing here!

YouTube - Benny Goodman Quartet - Moonglow

Benny Goodman, clarinet; Lionel Hampton, vibes; Teddy Wilson, piano; Gene Krupa, drums. With George Duvivier on bass. Hey, that Lionel Hampton's gotta be the King of Swing!


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 01:19:30 PM EST
Happy Birthday to You ...

Happy Bithday to You.

Happy Birthday dear Twankeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(you worthless loud mouth son - of - biiiiiiiiiiiiiich)

Happy Birthday to You!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 01:52:41 PM EST


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:20:32 PM EST
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Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 03:33:35 PM EST
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Cumpleaños Feliz,...... You beat me to it Twankee, although it was in my calendar this morning.

Hope you had a memorable day, while I suffered the 40º for you.

Wish I could show up more often, but life is too __ exciting to allow me time.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 06:23:43 PM EST
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Thank You. Good to hear from you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 07:12:33 PM EST
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have a birthday poem

BBC - Arts - Poetry: Out Loud

(probably helps if you know what the actual Cats protection league is)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 09:29:47 PM EST
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Good lyrics.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:02:00 PM EST
Hearing in Oklahoma City tattoo assault case, conference set | NewsOK.com
A preliminary hearing conference has been set for four people charged with kidnapping an 18-year-old Oklahoma City man and tattooing the word "RAPEST" on his forehead before shocking him with a stun gun and beating him unconscious.

Only in Oklahoma...

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?

by budr on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:22:12 PM EST
Only thing worse than an involuntary tatoo is a misspelled involuntary tatoo.


'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 04:10:17 AM EST
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US police smash camera for recording killing - Features - Al Jazeera English

A picture may be worth 1,000 words, but Narces Benoit's decision to videotape a shooting by Miami police landed him in jail after officers smashed his cell-phone camera.

It was 4am on May 30 when Benoit and his girlfriend Erika Davis saw officers firing dozens of bullets into a car driven by Raymond Herisse, a suspect who hit a police officer and other vehicles while driving recklessly. Herisse died in the hail of lead, and four bystanders also suffered gunshot wounds, the Miami Herald newspaper reported. 

Police noticed the man filming the shooting and an officer jumped into his truck, and put a pistol to his head, Benoit said. The video shows officers crowding around Herisse's vehicle before opening fire, followed by indistinguishable yelling at onlookers, including Benoit, to stop filming.

The cop yelled: "Wanna be a [expletive] paparazzi?" Benoit recounted in a TV interview.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 02:30:04 PM EST
~ Vale Clarence Clemens ~

~ strong guitar/sax backing music all through, but especially after 3:00



I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 03:23:48 PM EST
Back in the land of the living!

We have been functioning with only one computer on line at a time for a week since the lightning strike. I got a replacement router by Netgear but could not get it to work. The tech I got it from told me I needed to run the config CD. I have a cable modem and when I ran the CD it responded: "You appear to have a static IP. Is this correct?" I thought it was the case and checked "yes",  but I got a field that required the IP, submask, etc. etc. I called SuddenLink, the cable supplier and asked them for that information. They said the router should pull that info from the modem, said the modem was seeing the router and referred me to a Netgear site for further help, but the site turned out to be for pay. I blew up and exited the site. SuddenLink called  back the next day to ask if I had resolved the problem and I gave them and ear full about not being able to give me my own IP, etc. But the representative did suggest googling "what is my IP", which I entered into the router form, but I didn't have data for the other fields.

Monday I called the vendor and the tech came out. I learned a lot about using the command prompt and configip, but we could not get the router to pull the modem's IP, subnet, etc. and kept getting a 192. IP number, which was just the router. We had been able to get onto the web by plugging one machine directly into the modem, but after we powered down the modem, unscrewed the cable and touched tip to ring with a finger, waited 30 seconds, reconnected and repowered -- voila! Now we couldn't even get to the internet with one machine.

Called Suddenlink and made an appointment for this morning. When the tech did not arrive, I called the manager of the local office, who referred me to his trouble dispacher, who informed me that I had been scheduled for the next day!! Within half an hour a tech arrived, sold me a new modem, and everything worked, no config required for the hardwired computers! Hurray!  I will worry about the password protection for the wireless connection later. After having spent the whole day waiting for service it just feels good to have both computers hardwire connected to the internet at the same time.
Called SuddenLink,

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 06:34:03 PM EST
Argh, why is first line tech support so Useless.  IF it happens again, and you still have one machine working, get in touch, and I'll talk you through it.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 09:37:39 PM EST
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Cos nobody is willing to pay for it to be done properly.

It's all scripts and metrics requiring you to sever connection after 2 mins 43 seconds and where picking the phone up and putting it down, recording it as "user rang off" is a successful call.


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 08:01:41 AM EST
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I know they have those demands for processes on time, but I would have thought if you as a Customer support person stayed online and they booted you out for not reaching your quota, and the things that the customer needed to do took longer than the time you had allowed, then you'd have a cast iron case for constructive dismissal. it would only take a few cases and firms might have to do something about their attitude.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 09:38:57 AM EST
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No, cos finally your job isn't about providing support, it's about conforming to company requirements.

If you're job requires that all calls be finished within 2 m 43 secs, then, by their understanding, taking longer means you're inefficient and, QED, a sub-standard employee they would be right to terminate.

Take that to an employment tribunal and you'll have two chances. Oh, and Slim just left town

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 10:49:37 AM EST
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Thanks for the offer, ceebs. Soon I may be able to do something like that. A customer sales rep for my land line company called to offer me a better deal on my phone line -- $10/month less + a free DSL line with up  to 3meg bandwidth if I pay a one time $14 shipping and handling fee. Seemed like a deal to me. I will just put the DSL modem beside the cable modem, connect my ancient laptop, recently updated, and have a second access point. Amazing how quickly after I accepted the deal I got confirmation of the desirability of that deal.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 10:35:23 AM EST
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Another fire near Ruidoso - making three all together - broke out last night, escaped containment earlier today due to high winds, and went from 600 to 9,000 acres in about 6 hours.  All three were caused by lightening ground strikes.  If they grow into a single fire front things will get real fun & exciting, real quick.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and a half)

P.S.  We can't catch a break.  If we don't get rain, meaning "thunderstorms" during the summer, there's a high danger of wildfires; if we do get rain there's a high danger of wildfire.  


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 07:56:22 PM EST
on the bright side, there is only so much that can burn.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 08:09:25 PM EST
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Well, that's true.  

Fire now at 15,000 acres and two of them are growing closer to each other.  And a spot fire has erupted about 10 miles windward of the major fire ... so now there are 4 different simultaneous fires, all of them in locations inaccessible to fire fighting equipment.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 28th, 2011 at 08:45:46 PM EST
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Saw on NBC nightly news that Los Alamos is surrounded by fire on three sides, within a few miles of the lab and the city and nonessential personnel and families have been evacuated. They showed a PLASTIC building full of ~55gal drums of plutonium contaminated materials from the weapons lab. The fire chief asserted that they would not let the fire get to the lab. That is reassuring.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 10:42:35 AM EST
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Haven't been able to get much information this morning but it seems the fire crews have managed to fight the fire to a stand-still in the Lab.  LANL has been aggressively thinning growth over the last 10 years, no doubt been a help.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 11:27:42 AM EST
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A nephew of my wife's is an EE specializing in HVAC and works for LANL. His father built the meson facility. His wife is staying with friends off the mountain. I am presuming that the one side not involved in fire is the side with the road to Albuquerque.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 12:32:01 PM EST
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The main route is state highway 502 running from Interstate 285/84/64 west into the mountains and so far they have been able to keep the fire south of the road.

The battlelines are state highway 4 (black line running east/west abutting the Bandelier Forest) and state highway 501 running north/south west of Los Alamos.  The goal is to prevent the fire moving into the city.

Everywhere else they are letting the air assets slow the fire spreading by dropping fire retardant.  The terrain is too rugged, too hard of access, thus too dangerous to put fire crews 'on the line.'

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 12:58:58 PM EST
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on a road trip, and there was an incredible amount of beetle-killed trees out there, broad swaths of reddish-brown forest, up and down the foothills, from montana through colorado, to new mexico. all that tinder-dry fuel is going to burn eventually, what a mess. keep safe.
by wu ming on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 02:23:46 AM EST
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We're safe.  There's nothing around here to burn :-)

The forests have upwards of 400 trees per acre when 20 to 40 is the ecologically viable range.  The only way to clear it out is fire and most people here understand that.  It's an expensive mess while the "cleaning" goes on but once the excess has been cleaned the improvement in the ecology is stark: mountain springs start running again, meadows re-appear, wildlife returns, etc.


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 11:41:57 AM EST
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So sorry for your troubles. I've been to Ruidoso several times, and it's lovely there. I talked to a number of locals and they were interesting and friendly. I'll try to work on my rain dance to take out the lightning.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 04:18:04 AM EST
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Ruidoso is lovely.  It's also a classic example of a forest/urban interface environment just waiting for the right conditions to burn to the ground.  If a fire ever got started in Upper Canyon, under the right wind conditions, there'd be no way to stop it roaring down Sudderth.  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Wed Jun 29th, 2011 at 11:58:30 AM EST
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