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LQD: Poll shows vast majority back Obama

by Frank Schnittger Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 at 11:47:46 AM EST

79% of Irish people back President Obama, while only 5% want Romney to win the election according to a new poll.


Poll shows vast majority back Obama - The Irish Times - Mon, Oct 22, 2012

THE VAST majority of Irish voters want Barack Obama to win the US presidential election in less than three weeks time, according to the latest Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI poll. It shows a tiny level of support among the electorate for Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

When asked who they would support if they had a vote in the US election, 79 per cent of respondents said Obama while just 5 per cent opted for Romney and 16 per cent had no opinion.

The survey was undertaken last Monday and Tuesday among a representative sample of 1,000 voters aged 18 and over, in face-to-face interviews at 100 sampling points in all constituencies. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 per cent.

Fine Gael voters give twice as much support to Romney than supporters of any other party but, even so, 81 per cent of them would prefer to see an Obama victory.

Labour voters are the least likely to back the Republican challenger, with just 3 per cent of them in his camp. Better-off AB voters are twice as likely to support Mr Romney as those in the poorest DE socio-economic category, but again the level of support for Obama in both groups is overwhelming.

Support for the incumbent is consistent across all age groups with a slight dip in the over-65s, who are more likely than any other age category to back Romney.

Overwhelming support among voters for the Democratic Party candidate is due in part to the historical associations between the party and this country as well as a clear preference for Obama over Romney.

While Irish-American voters are no longer nearly as supportive of the Democrats as they were in the past, the view from this side of the Atlantic has not changed.

The response of the Irish public to visits from Democratic presidents John F Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Obama was in stark contrast to the muted reception afforded to Republicans Richard Nixon and George W Bush.

Ronald Reagan, who secured a significant proportion of Irish American vote, received a slightly better reception in Ireland than other Republican presidents. But he also attracted considerable hostility over American foreign policy.

One of those who led the anti-Reagan protests was President Michael D Higgins.

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Didn't anyone tell them they don't get a vote?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 at 07:17:59 AM EST
I suspect that a large majority of Israelis back Romney, and a lot of them do get a vote.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 at 07:49:14 AM EST
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Possibly, but I suspect not.  I suspect they're relatively pro-Romney compared with Jewish voters in the US due to nationalistic attitudes and exposure to the batshit crazy press over there.  But Jewish voters in the US are overwhelmingly pro-Obama, and there's a lot of overlap.

It might even be the opposite, if -- as I suspect might be the case -- the dual citizens there are a bit younger.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 07:53:43 AM EST
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Presumably orthodox Jews are more pro-Romney?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 08:11:40 AM EST
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The expat vote in Israel in 2008 was apparently 76% for McCain.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 09:04:45 AM EST
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Does he have a citation for that?

Not saying he's wrong at all, but I've never seen breakdowns by country.  Don't think any official ones exist, since your vote would need to be counted by US state.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 06:21:19 PM EST
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No. I remember seeing similar results (including details of some cities - not ones that I would have thought of as being particularly right-wing - with 100% McCain) right after the election,  but I didn't check their provenance.

For the Democratic primary country breakdowns were provided (excessively detailed - the one Democrat in Liechtenstein voted for Clinton and the one in Monte Carlo for Obama....) and Israelis were strongly for Clinton.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2012 at 01:54:44 AM EST
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Is it possible that the relevant embassies do the collating and counting? It's hard to imagine the (say) Idaho elections Board keeping track of that level of detail...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Oct 25th, 2012 at 05:30:58 AM EST
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This was the primary for delegates representing expats, so it was run by Democrats Abroad. I don't think the embassies had anything to do with it.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2012 at 05:33:15 AM EST
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You'd be surprised how many Irish residents have relatives/friends/business links with the US not to mention tourist traffic both ways. It doesn't make a great deal of difference in the greater scheme of things, but then neither does the fact that similar margins of voters in other European states back Obama.

Are you saying that those who don't have a vote aren't allowed to have an opinion?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 at 08:51:57 AM EST
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79% of Irish people back President Obama, while only 5% want Romney to win the election according to a new poll.

Would have expected nothing less, they are
a) Europeans and
b) not insane!

How far back in time would you need to go to make the country 'conservative enough' for a Romney majority?
1980? 1960?

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by Number 6 on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 09:59:23 AM EST
Surely if you went back in time the Catholic Irish would have been even more opposed to a Mormon.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 10:03:21 AM EST
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Ack. Of course, yes.
But a Mormon vs. a black protestant?
Actually UCC seems very bland and inoffensive on the whole. So, yes, still the non-Mormon.


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by Number 6 on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 10:08:55 AM EST
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Black protestants have regularly been elected to Office in Ireland - President Twice, Members of parliament and ministers in excess of their proportion of the population. We almost had a protestant Gay President elected last year - had in not been for an ineptly managed campaign.

We don't really do Mormons.  Something about the business suits and American accents doesn't sit well with us. My company once had Bain consultants in.  They had probably never worked in an environment where even senior management decided to subvert them as quickly as possible.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 01:46:22 PM EST
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Nice to hear.

(Learning is fun!)

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by Number 6 on Thu Oct 25th, 2012 at 04:20:28 AM EST
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All Irish political parties are to the left of Democrats. You would have to go back to the early 60's to elect a Romney clone.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 24th, 2012 at 01:40:36 PM EST
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