Welcome to the new version of European Tribune. It's just a new layout, so everything should work as before - please report bugs here.

The Romney Zombie Apocalypse

by Frank Schnittger Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 06:16:43 AM EST


Many outside observers find it difficult to understand why the US Presidential election is even close. On the one hand you have a President who has ended one war, is ending another, and has avoided entanglement in a few more potential wars so far. He has saved the US auto industry, reduced US dependency on imported oil, pulled the US out of the deepest recession since the Great Depression and has enacted the most comprehensive healthcare reform since Lyndon Johnson's Great Society introduced  Medicare and Medicaid - and all against the scorched earth policies of his Republican congressional opposition.

And on the other hand, you have a ZOMBIE who...


  1. Thinks it's fun to forcibly cut the hair of a gay boy at school while his friends hold him down

  2. Loves his pet dog so much he puts him in a crate on the roof of his car on a several hundred mile vacation journey and hoses him down when he craps all over himself and the car.

  3. Counter demonstrates against anti-Vietnam war protestors - whilst at the same time claiming an exemption from the draft for religious reasons - apparently to do "missionary work" in France. There are no reports of any converts during his time there...

  4. Says that "I like to fire people who render services to me"

  5. Claims that he had no responsibility for Bain's actions when he was still sole owner, CEO and attending some board meetings - and was listed as such on the the Company's tax returns

  6. According to his own adviser has an "etch a sketch" approach to policy whereby his policy is whatever it suits him to say at any given time as if his previous policy pronouncements were of no consequence.

  7. Has run away from his one major accomplishment as a one term Governor - his "Romneycare" health care plan he initiated in Massachusetts with the help of a Democrat controlled legislature.

  8. Goes on an "insult tour" of Europe and Israel where he upsets his hosts with insensitive comments about the running of the Olympics and the cultural inferiority of Palestinians. Whilst attending the Olympics he doesn't even go to see his wife's dressage horse compete for fear of seeming elitist - a horse for which he claims a large tax deduction.

  9. Fails to declare his own tax returns of more than the past two years - and manipulates the two years he does release by over paying to make it look like he is paying his claimed 14.9% rate - an overpayment he is entitled to claim back later. He has also turned himself into a religious/charitable institution to avoid paying taxes for 15 years

  10. Supports a tax plan - authored by running mate Paul Ryan - which would reduce his own future tax liability to less than 1% as it exempts all capital gains.

  11. Comments: "Let Detroit go bankrupt", "I'll veto the Dream Act", "I'll end Planned Parenthood", "corporations are people, my friends", "my job is not to worry about the very poor", and "47% of people are dependent on the Government and unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives" despite the fact that most of them have paid taxes for large parts of their lives.

  12. His Libya comments seeking to make political capital out of the embassy attacks as US diplomats, including the ambassador, were being killed.

  13. Has appointed a senior advisory team drawn from the dark side of the Bush administration... By their friends you shall know them...

So what gives?

You can make excuses for the Citizen's United case, a corporate dominated mainstream media, and widespread  voter suppression tactics by Republican dominated state and local administrations, but there is no way such a zombie could be elected President - unless a majority of US voters have already become infected with the disease...

We in Ireland have had our own Zombie apocalypse to live through...

Poll
Who are the Zombies?
. Mitt Romney's Team 0%
. The Greater GOP community 25%
. The US Electorate 33%
. People who believe what they see on TV 25%
. The Northern Ireland paramilitaries in the Cranberies song 0%
. A British 1960's pop group 16%

Votes: 12
Results | Other Polls
Display:
Most of Western Civilization.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 07:53:50 AM EST
Compared to which superior civilizations?

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 07:59:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I don't know about other civilizations. Mine has gone insane.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 09:39:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Anecdotes and apocrypha:

Reporter: What do you think of western civilization?
Mahatma Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.


-----
sapere aude

by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:14:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 08:02:19 AM EST
Taibbi writes well, but I tend not to agree with his viewpoint that Democrats would win by a landslide if they refused corporate donations and the compromises that go with that. Objectively, you would think that should be the case. In practice most voters are not as anti-corporate as he likes to think and are very susceptible to the corporate PR machine. Many identify their self interest with their employers interests. The only people actually fighting a class war are the top 1%...the rest have mostly succumbed...

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 09:31:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, it's a bit simplistic. Not something you can change by just "deciding to be nice".

"Follow the money."

-----
sapere aude

by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:15:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Posted this in the Salon earlier, but I think it is appropriate here too:

Mitt Romney In GOP Debate: Shut Down Federal Disaster Agency, Send Responsibility To The States

During a CNN debate at the height of the GOP primary, Mitt Romney was asked, in the context of the Joplin disaster and FEMA's cash crunch, whether the agency should be shuttered so that states can individually take over responsibility for disaster response.

"Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

"Including disaster relief, though?" debate moderator John King asked Romney.

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney replied. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."

After all, floods and poor handling of them are important to bring about the zombie apocalypse. Not to mention that Romney is more pro learning about how to radically alter the climate by stressing it enough.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:05:46 AM EST
Romney is dangerous to himself and others.

CBS: Obama on Hurricane Sandy: "We're ready" (October 29, 2012)

The president warned that "this is going to be a big and powerful storm," but he believes all across the eastern seaboard appropriate preparations were being made.

"The most important message that I have for the public right now is: please listen to what your state and local officials are saying."

"When they tell you to evacuate, you need to evacuate," he said. "Do not delay, don't pause, don't question the instructions that are being given because this is a serious storm and it could potentially have fatal consequences if people haven't acted quickly."



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:09:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
He keeps pandering to:

  1. Decentralisation to states - because a storm effecting New jersey is a discreet event to one in New York and both must be managed separately

  2. to the private sector - because it is by definition more "efficient" than the public sector

  3. To cost/debt reduction - forgetting that the people we owe the money to - rich people like himself - are living very nicely on the interest, thank you v. much.

We are not handing our debts onto our children - the wealthy who own the debts are. tax them a little more, and the debt problem solves itself.

His three strategies above have one factor in common - they increase the power and wealth of private elites relative to the state.

Index of Frank's Diaries

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:50:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
a storm affecting New Jersey is a discrete event to one in New York and both must be managed separately

Heh.
"You got a problem with that?" vs "Fuggedaboutit"


-----
sapere aude

by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:55:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Neither NY or NJ was ever likely to vote go for Romney.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 02:39:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Which is why God punished the with the storm...

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 03:56:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
While we're at it, what's going to be done about voting next week in the states hit by the hurricane?

Will there be legal challenges about people's ability to vote?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 03:58:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think Nate Silver is too quick to dismiss the effects of the hurricane on voting: Impact of Hurricane Sandy on Election Is Uncertain (October 29, 2012)
Some analysts have also expressed concern that the storm could depress turnout along the Eastern Seaboard on Election Day itself. Since the affected states are Democratic-leaning, and since many of them are so Democratic-leaning that they are likely to vote for Mr. Obama even in a low turnout, it is thought that this might reduce Mr. Obama's national popular vote without hurting his standing in the Electoral College much, potentially increasing the risk of a split outcome.

This is a plausible argument, but let me offer a pair of cautions against it.

First, the Northeast is a wealthy party of the country, and wealthier regions have better infrastructure than impoverished ones, allowing them to recuperate more quickly after a disaster. Were the hurricane expected to hit at the same time next week, it would almost certainly be profoundly disruptive to the election. But the effects might be more modest a week from now.

Second, although the storm surge represents the most immediate threat from the hurricane, inland areas are under considerable risk as well. Hurricane Sandy could potentially flood riverbanks and other low-lying areas, both because of the storm surge carrying forth into them and then because of the potential for large amounts of rainfall. Moreover, these inland regions may be less well prepared to deal with the storm's effects, especially given the news media's tendency to focus its alerts on the impact to major, coastal cities and then to ignore the impact of a storm once it passes through them. (Hurricane Irene in 2011 produced more deaths in landlocked Vermont than in New York City.) Thus, Sandy's after-effects could be felt in red-leaning areas like central Pennsylvania and West Virginia, along with others that are more Democratic-leaning.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 04:04:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think Nate is being too much of a nerd and missing some parts of the big picture:

  1. The storm drowns out the electoral narrative Mitt needs to sustain his "mittmentum" and reduces his campaign appearances to a few school halls

  2. It allows Obama to look Presidential whilst Mitt desperately tries to insert himself into the story with ridiculous attempts to hold sparsely attended election rallies re-branded as Storm relief events collecting laughable amounts of "relief supplies" no one wants.

  3. It draws attention to Mitts earlier statements that disaster relief is immoral and his pledges to abolish FEMA  - not to mention his poor track record of handling disaster relief as governor

  4. It draws a stark contrast between Obama's competent handling of Sandy with Bush's handling of Katrina

  5. It reminds people of what good government is all about and cuts through the ideology that Government serves almost no useful purpose

  6. It draws attention to Republican congressional attempts to defund disaster relief

  7. Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey, long time tea party favorite, potential Presidential candidate, and Romney's keynote speaker at the GOP convention has praised Obama's handling of the Crisis to high heaven and refused Romney a picture opportunity "helping the distressed" in New Jersey.

  8. It emphasizes the Dem values of social solidarity rather than the Republican values of "you're on your own"

  9. The timing disrupts the (partisan) campaigns whilst not necessarily effecting election day itself. Most of the states in the storm path are solidly Dem in any case, and those that aren't - Va, NC and FL have much reason to be grateful for Federal Disaster relief.

  10. It MAY damage the Dems attempts to build a big lead in early voting in some states - e.g. NC, but there is little sign of that yet.

So there. Nate should really hire me to put some perspective on his numbers game!

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 04:35:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Obama campaign might find some way to use clips of Republican NJ Governor Chris Christie's comments today to the press. He said he would leave the effects of the storm on the election to those in the election, but he had nothing but praise for Obama and Fema Director Craig Fugate. Obama is going to NJ tomorrow and will likely tour with Christie. Brian Williams on NBC Nightly News had an interview with Dem. Gov. Mario Cuomo which touched on the need for a massive infrastructure rebuild. It was conducted in a flooded subway tunnel which already was one of the largest infrastructure projects in the nation. Now if only someone of stature would take on the stupid "we can't afford it" arguments. By that logic we would have lost every war we ever waged.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 12:23:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I think his and the GOP's schtick wrks because it feeds into the American mythology of self-reliance, of going it alone into the frontier and once there, taking what you want to be yours by force of arms (aka truth, justice and the american way")

Far too many people have been conditioned into believing that group solidarity among workers is anti-american, that welfare is just for bums and that, if they work hard enough, they'll be rich. Just like mitt.

It ain't true. It was never true. but they believe it just the same.

And while they do, liars and job destroyers like Mitt will be free to wreak havoc with their blessing

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 11:57:56 AM EST
Don't forget that God gave them the land and resources of the USA just for that purpose and because they are morally superior and thus have a mission to civilize the rest of the world - which they would be doing right now if they weren't being held back by the 47% who don't quite get his vision thing...

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 12:06:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
sometimes i think that they ought to allow the republicans free rein to destroy the US economy just to teach them that this idiocy hurts.

but I rather think that they'd start repeating thatcher's wonderfully mendacious phrase "if it isn't hurting, it isn't working" and believe their poverty was some sort of masochistic self-sacrifice for "freedom"

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 12:49:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Somehow Thatcher is the last person you'd imagine wearing leg warmers ...


-----
sapere aude
by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 12:51:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Please...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 01:06:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry, got an 80's vibe from "no pain no gain". Won't happen again.


-----
sapere aude
by Number 6 on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 01:10:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
not clutching pearls are we?

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 01:12:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Being invited to imagine Thatcher's legs and not clutching anything at all, thanks.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 03:22:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 03:59:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Did you miss 2007-8 and Bush's attempt to do just that?

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 01:13:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The damn fool Obama went and saved America just as bush was about to destroy it

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 01:21:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More like he kept the game going for the banksters for four and probably eight more years.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 02:41:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
... oops, I meant, "Back to the Ronald Reagan Days"



I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 06:40:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 04:05:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Aqua had a few catchy Europop songs, though in Australia it was only their album with "Barbie Girl" on it that hit, so I never heard their stuff from later in the 90's until last month, when the "I'm a Romney Girl" parody made me think I preferred the original and I went looking on YouTube.

(Of course, a "90's" Europop group making a song "Back to the 80's" in the Naughties led to a satire "Back to the 90's".)

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 10:53:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ask my kids, "What's the First Rule?"  They will respond, "PEOPLE ARE STOOOOPIIID!"
by rifek on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 02:58:16 PM EST
What's the second rule?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 02:58:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Some people are even stooopider...

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 03:58:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Really...Here in QLD we had floods in 2011 and Labour government with Anna Bligh managed it REALLY GREAT. Fast and great response and everyone applauded her and the government. It did not help later at the election...they lost tremendously having just 6 seats at the parliament.People would reason this with explanation that Anna Bligh sold public wealth and put us in to the debt. Why people voted so overwhelmingly for conservatives that promised them to cut public servants and services in order to cut PUBLIC debt? Public servants obviously also voted conservatives...Having a coffee with my neighbor some time ago, who is also public servant, she told me how in QLD Health they are going to lose jobs in huge numbers. She is also scared for her job. She admitted that she was also voting conservatives. Then she said " I would bite my ass now for voting them"...    
by vbo on Tue Oct 30th, 2012 at 10:46:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yea, that's how it works. Cos what you can never do is tax the wealthy properly.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 04:07:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, somehow taxing the mining boom that puts pressure on government services in Queensland, would "threaten the boom".

Its a perfect claim, because if the tax is put in place, then sometime sooner or later, the boom will end, and then it will be the tax's fault.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2012 at 12:36:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 04:08:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I will NEVER understand how a pretty good chunk of so called middle class ( people that are working their ass off ) just because they found them self in little higher salary bracket are seeing them selves together with real rich people. They are in huge debt ( because of higher salaries and financial advisers pushed them to buy "investments") they do not really own anything. All those "investments" are actually bank's properties that they pay high interest rates on and with no another rise in housing prices on the horizon, gain on those investments is on a long rope. In the main time they may lose their jobs with conservative policies in place...It's a bloody American dream ( it is dream , they are right, haha) to get rich over night...And that's why we see this absurd situation...    
by vbo on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 08:02:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Those who have the gold makes the rules.

- Jake

Austerity can only be implemented in the shadow of a concentration camp.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Nov 1st, 2012 at 09:49:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
So those who have the gold make people stooooped?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 1st, 2012 at 10:29:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
By way of think-tanks.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Thu Nov 1st, 2012 at 01:56:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That is not accurate. Most people are pretty darn clever. When it comes to their jobs, their hobbies, and anything else at which they happen to have accrued significant expertise.
however, only a very small minority of the population spends any significant amount of time thinking about politics, and instead use the following rule to determine their vote: "Has the pooch been screwed? If yes, vote for the other guy"

Which actually has a bunch of virtues: for one thing, it is extremely resistant to spin, propaganda and misinformation, and reliably punishes bad governance.
It takes no account of the character of the other guy, but that is the point: Unless you spend a heck of a lot of time analyzing politics and news flow, you cannot get an accurate picture of what the other guy will do once in office. There is simply too much disinformation polluting the news stream.
Joe and Jolene Q. Public inevitably have a fairly accurate perception of the policies of the incumbent, because they have lived under them for four years, and since this is the only solid piece of information they are going to get without spending all their spare time for weeks on end, that is the piece of information they use to decide.

In other words, the election is close because Obama has not been a very impressive president. He is likely to win reelection because he has not actually been a disaster, but for a landslide, he would have had to crucify wall street, and enact healthcare reform much faster so that people would go to the booth with experience of dealing with the new system.

by Thomas on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 05:53:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The pooch has most certainly been screwed, but a substantial portion of the population is swallowing shovel-loads of BS spin about who did the screwing.  That's stupid.  And they're going to vote for people who are promising nothing short of the destruction of these voters.  That's transcendantly stupid.
by rifek on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 06:51:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
People do not make good decisions based on bad information. This should not be confused with stupidity.

For one thing it means that if Romney actually tried to govern according to what one might laughingly call his proposed policies, he would find that the people are not sheep, and the end result would be a back down or the formation of the second american republic after Washington gets burned down. Again.

More practically, calling it stupidity misidentifies the actual problem which is capture of the press and the parties by capital. You do not get an engaged electorate by lying to them and  staging kabuki elections between the party of wall street and the party of wall street.

by Thomas on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 07:24:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'd love to believe that.

Most people (including "us"/"the good guys") do not vote rationally.

-----
sapere aude

by Number 6 on Thu Nov 1st, 2012 at 08:56:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The capture of media and government institutions by the 1% is well-documented, and the information is readily available.  Nevertheless, the bulk of the population either ignores that information (willful ignorance) or receives the information and acts contrary to the logical conclusions to be drawn from it (willful illogic).  I view either as a form of stupidity.
by rifek on Thu Nov 1st, 2012 at 01:59:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
All of this discussion is completely peripheral to the one issue in the election, which is that Romney is white and Obama is black.
by asdf on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 12:51:36 AM EST
Romney looks like a preznit should, which of course means white. Also square jaw, dumb grin, the hair. It doesn't matter a damn what he says, half the electorate will go his way.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 03:31:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Not to say the defeatism!

Let me posit an alternate theory:

  1. Most people are not completely stupid.
  2. They have at least some subliminal awareness of what is going on.
  3. They know they are being pandered to and played
  4. Sometimes they just can't help themselves and do something stupid
  5. But more often they do the right thing - despite themselves
  6. S/he who dares, wins.


Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 04:12:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
They have at least some subliminal awareness of what is going on.

They know they are being pandered to and played

This is essentially the basis for conspiratorial thinking.

It's not that they know they are being played, they are afraid someone might want to fool them, they don't understand the way the system works at a rational level (not that anyone really does, mind you) and they have an intuition that things are not as they should be.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 04:20:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It would be the only issue if this were still the 80's or 90's.

As it stands, though, that's only worth 46% of the vote in most of the key swing states, and Romney as a candidate has done nothing to grab the extra 3% he needs to win. He looks to be going into the election in Ohio, Nevada, Iowa and Wisconsin with nothing except that one issue, and its just not enough.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2012 at 12:40:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Things we Americans (The Empirians) forget are:

  1. This Empire was founded on stealing an entire continent from its occupants and practicing genocide. And real slavery was so IN then.  More recently ...

  2. We have decided that the world's resources are our resources and we will kill you if need be to secure them.  You see, we Empirians have always assumed that our screwing over the rest of you would benefit US.

Guess what campers? The Empirians are now being treated like everyone else ... we're being fucked and we have it coming.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 12:16:54 PM EST
Well, 1 and 2 have worked for centuries, so everyone likes it if they a) don't have to watch b) get some of the spoils.

Stopped working for the masses when the masters became too greedy. Also international/globalised.

-----
sapere aude

by Number 6 on Wed Oct 31st, 2012 at 12:37:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Display:
Go to: [ European Tribune Homepage : Top of page : Top of comments ]

Top Diaries