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by afew Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 10:29:53 AM EST

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 10:30:31 AM EST
Wouldn't want to interrupt the discussion, but jeez, take a load off, Annie.

do not miss the fourth verse, if you want to see Bonnie show women how it's done (as if this isn't a women's version).

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 01:12:34 PM EST
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I've just got a black screen there, bud

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 01:16:31 PM EST
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Let it load first, lots of people are looking at this right now because Dylan sent it out. (the founder and producer of Austin City Limits is an old friend of mine, going back to the days before i built rotating equipment.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 01:17:06 PM EST
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Is it this one?

Austin City Limits' Video Exclusive: the Mavericks & All-Star Tribute to Levon Helm

I'm sitting here with tears something in my eyes.

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?

by budr on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 01:43:16 PM EST
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Ganz Genau, mit Dylan Unterstützung.

I really miss Levon, but remain thankful for the times we had, and above all, for the music that remains.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 01:48:32 PM EST
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Amen to that.

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?
by budr on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:02:18 PM EST
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your German is becoming very good.  Keep it up!
by stevesim on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:35:12 PM EST
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Do you speak German?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:41:30 PM EST
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yes, I do.  
by stevesim on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:29:26 PM EST
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I have been using an old HP Deskjet 950c for ages, largely because it's totally reliable. I had a newer F380 before that which was a total p.o.s.

However, replacement cartridges cost the earth and the re-filled market isn't reliable.

anybody got a recommendation of a nice colour printer which is reliable. I don't need speed, or photo quality. Just slow dependability

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 11:23:26 AM EST
I decided a while ago that the inkjet technology is just too crazy. Expensive, unreliable, etc. So I switched over to an HP LaserJet, which uses toner and is only monochrome. Reliable, cartridge lasts a long time...
by asdf on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 11:48:31 AM EST
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Ink clogs up if you use it rarely. So not reliable, no.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:41:51 PM EST
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Right. The LaserJet line uses toner and a heating element. Older, better technology.

Note: I personally would never buy an HP printer, mainly because their driver software is ridiculous bloatware. I got this one for free.

by asdf on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 07:24:28 PM EST
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Haven't enough knowledge about their software to comment, but I've had 4 HP printers (one laser, 3 color) in the last 20 years and they have been real workhorses for me. I print lots of things, make calendars and such, t-shirt transfers, and the print quality has been exceptional. I only get the printers that have the individual color cartridges so that I have to replace only one when a color runs out.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 02:20:58 AM EST
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Got an Three-in-One Epson WorkForce 635.  Works for me.  Downside is the cartridges aren't cheap and it seems to eat them steadily.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 11:56:19 AM EST
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Well there are cheap colour lasers about at the moment

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 11:57:40 AM EST
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such as ??

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 12:23:46 PM EST
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theyre all prety much the same really, probably worth hitting comet and seeing what they have on sale

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:38:55 PM EST
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about 2 years ago - on sale. And, because I'm one of the cheapest persons on the planet, I bought a refill kit for the cartridges, which is now about 2/3rds used up.

If you go this route, here are my lessons-learned:

  1. use latex gloves;
  2. lay down at least 5 pages of newspaper;
  3. do not overfill the cartridges - when the ink starts to overflow, stop injecting.


paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 12:30:13 PM EST
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I've got an HP Officejet 100 Mobile Printer ... color; haven't used it that much yet but have no complaints so far.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 03:33:42 PM EST
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We have a samsung wifi-enabled laser color printer which was relatively inexpensive and works like a charm. I would recommend looking at the samsung models on sale these days.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:44:47 PM EST
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The Canon Pixus series printers are wonderful if you plan to print photos.  They are ridiculous overkill if you just want black and white.  Only use ink jet if you want to print color photos and stuff.  If black text is what you need most, laser is definitely the way to go.  Much cheaper per page, much faster, and much more reliable.
by Zwackus on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 01:11:08 AM EST
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B.B. King meets Jimi Hendricks

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:25:38 PM EST
With added Janis Joplin memories



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:33:29 PM EST
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Wow. (Wau.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:49:12 PM EST
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Haven't got time to listen to these now, but am looking forward to them tomorrow

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:05:33 PM EST
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Glaub mir, this is way better than parsing election returns. me don't use brilliant lightly.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:20:54 PM EST
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http://vomitinducing.tumblr.com/

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 02:34:02 PM EST
A blow by blow account of the collapse of romney's automated GOTV process - Hilarious

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 03:42:29 PM EST
Interestingly, it seems that the evangelicals are beginning to understand some of the roots of the problem

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 03:45:21 PM EST
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We lost by fairly small margins in Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Colorado. If this had worked could it have closed the gap? I sure hope not for my sanity's sake.

Okay, Florida maybe.  Ohio is highly doubtful.

But they lost Colorado by 5 points and Virginia by 3.  The latter is fairly close, but the former is a sound beating -- and with Colorado in Obama's column, the election's over anyway.  I don't care if Obama gifted them his GOTV operation, they weren't winning those two.

If he believes it could've made a difference in those two, he's as delusional as the guys who built Romney's shitty GOTV effort.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 08:54:59 PM EST
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I'm not worried so much as to whether it might have made a difference, it was the way the process failed that is funny. I recognise the same idiotic management of technological implementation from oh so many examples in my career

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:34:46 AM EST
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When the everything-for-profit party runs all elements of its campaign for profit it runs into some problems with people putting their profit over the common good of the campaign. Its delicious.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 06:41:15 AM EST
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Turns out they're not even good at creating a profit because they can't plan intelligently and they don't understand how to hire people who know what they're doing.

The entire GOP mindset isvavdelusional fantasy. When they make money, they do it by scamming and parasitising people who crate real value.

If there's no one to scam or leech off they're utterly impotent.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 07:19:05 AM EST
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It has been particularly easy, through the long bubbly bull market years, to increase one's assets without knowing how to do anything useful.

For those who had some assets to start with, of course.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 07:42:45 AM EST
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Wait, you're allowed to note down who goes to the polling place to vote in America? In Denmark, that is a criminal offense. The only people who get to take roll are the officials.

I've been an official at three or four Danish elections, now, and anybody who tried that stunt would get tossed all the way off the premises. Or arrested if he didn't piss off when told to.

- Jake

Austerity can only be implemented in the shadow of a concentration camp.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 05:43:37 PM EST
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That's also allowed in the UK.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 07:03:19 PM EST
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Yeah, we used to do GOTV in New Zealand with electoral-roll printouts, back in the 80s. I guess they still do.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 04:44:27 AM EST
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Same in Germany: if people were allowed to take notes of who voted, and in which order, the secret ballot would be in danger.
by Katrin on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 09:34:22 AM EST
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Reuters: Goldman in settlement talks with U.S. over trading loss (November 10, 2012)
Goldman Sachs Group Inc is in settlement talks with the U.S. government over an $8.3 billion position that one of the investment bank's traders had concealed five years ago, according to a published report.
Curiouser and curiouser.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:09:00 PM EST
Hmmmmm, {raised eyebrows}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:18:49 PM EST
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November 10 edition.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:13:33 PM EST
good work!
by stevesim on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:25:56 PM EST
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I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 04:41:07 PM EST
A renewed French side just beat an uninspired Australia 33-6 in Paris.

But Wales lost to Argentina in Cardiff...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:02:01 PM EST
afew:
A renewed French side just beat an uninspired Australia 33-6 in Paris.

Somebody in Lyon must be smirking...

by Bernard on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 05:07:01 PM EST
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down in the southwest... What Wales lack in consistency, they make up for in unreliability.

I missed all the games, I'll see if I can get some replays off the internet. I don't think I have the stomach to watch the All Blacks' execution of Scotland, but I might take a look at SA/Ireland.

It's good to see Fiji get a run in Europe. Though it seems some of their Europe-based players weren't released by their clubs, which is an injustice.

The autumn season looks fascinating.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 05:18:25 AM EST
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The Orange place debates two news stories -- discussing whether or not Romney was truly "shellshocked" at his loss.

I come down on the same side as dKos.  It's fine to pimp the "Polls are skewed" thing to keep your base fired up, but I can't bring myself to believe they were really so delusional that they actually conducted internal polling on the assumption that the other polls were skewed (and were thus shocked by the result).

I mean, I know times are tough for the GOPers, and Obama has been downright Clintonian in his ability to make them lose their shit in campaigns.

But surely the professional political strategists couldn't be this delusional?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Nov 10th, 2012 at 09:18:26 PM EST
Having read that article about the electronic GOTV failure, I can't help but think that this is the "overpriced incompetent consultant" culture coming around to bite them in the ass. Run your campaign like a corporation, and you get the same dysfunctional organization and the same lack of accountability.  The people paid to do things get their paycheck win or lose, and thus have very little incentive to do a good job - just like every other privatized consulting scam.
by Zwackus on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 01:16:22 AM EST
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I thought we'd heard from Ryan's wife that the shock they felt was pretty complete, that they more or less stumbled on stage after the announcement barely comprehending what had just happened

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 04:32:33 AM EST
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Yeah, that's what I'd say too...

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?
by budr on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 06:50:14 AM EST
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Perhaps they convinced themselves they were winning. Emotionally, it is easier. Then they can talk with utter sincerity about how confident they are. The alternative would be having to admit that they were all just 'projecting an air of confidence', which would come too close to saying they were lying. Had they acknowledged that they were going to lose they would have been criticized for demoralizing their campaign workers.

It is sorta similar to the inability of Fortune 5000 executives to admit that luck played any part in their success. Politics and business are both part confidence games. And politicians have a special words for con men: contributors, supporters and constituents.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 08:10:23 PM EST
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It might be so. Say something enough times and you start to somewhat believe it yourself. Add the reality is what we make it mindset and coporate consultants and there you go.

There were probably people who knew they were not going to win, but just as probably that was not something they were encouraged to talk about (better tend to your resume and start looking for other work).

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 06:48:35 AM EST
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Floowing links I found this Angry Billionaire T-Shirt

"The perfect holiday gift for your billionaire friends who are angry with Karl Rove for failing to buy our democracy on their behalf. Looks perfect in Vegas Gold. "

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 07:17:43 AM EST
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Someone should buy a few of those, gift-wrap them and send them to Koch HQ.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 07:22:00 AM EST
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Dump Trump: Ignoring `The Donald' Isn't Good Enough (November 8th, 2012)

There's a debate on Twitter right now about what to do about Trump.

Some people say that you should ignore him. They vow to not share his tweets and unfollow anyone who does.

According to Angelo Carusone, who organized the StopBeck effort that helped end Glenn Beck's run on Fox News, just ignoring Trump isn't good enough.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 05:49:10 AM EST
The Daily Edge
‏@TheDailyEdge

Republicans: "Obama would not have won without
blacks, Hispanics, gays or Jews." Democrats: "Or as we like to call
them: Americans"

by stevesim on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:03:59 PM EST
They forgot the women, but then again Republicans usually do

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:16:56 PM EST
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Nah, they need them to bring the beer and cook the FreedomFries©

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:46:26 PM EST
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Jews ? Ah, I guess they only matter when they live in Israel

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:17:39 PM EST
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'Islamization of Europe a good thing' | Ynet
Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing.

[...]

Islam, the rabbi added, is "a religion which misjudges its prophets but is relatively honest. It educates a bit more for a stable life of marriage and creation, where there is certain modesty and respect for God."

Efrati ruled, therefore, that "even if we are in a major war with the region's Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity."

No Judeo-Christianity for this guy....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:21:29 PM EST
The maniacal ravings of the reality challenged are always likely to raise eyebrows some way or another

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:31:32 PM EST
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The European Christians let the Fundie Jews down big time, by going soft (unlike the American fundie Christians who gained control of US foreign policy for a while...)

And historically, though the rabbi concentrates on Christian persecution of Jews, he could also have pointed out that Islamic polities have been essentially Judaeophile until quite recently (the kingdom of Morocco seems to be the last remnant of that)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 05:00:30 AM EST
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in some ways it reminds me of seeing the twin towers go down, the end of an era.

h/t billmon

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 03:48:08 PM EST
Whilst I agree with billmon when he suggests that democratic faces probably looked exactly the same in 2004, I do not agree that these people are just the same as him.

They made choices in their lives, and they chose hateful ones. The America they chose to love is one of monstrous inequalities, of moral scolds, of bigotry and divisiveness. These are people whose American taliban is becoming the very thing, the very form of government, from which the Pilgrim Fathers sought to escape when they founded America.

They are not like billmon, they haven't the courage.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 05:08:00 PM EST
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is becoming

has largely become

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 08:16:57 PM EST
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Helen:
from which the Pilgrim Fathers sought to escape when they founded America

Mmm yeah... Except that the Pilgrim Fathers' ethos itself was made up of "monstrous inequalities, of moral scolds, of bigotry and divisiveness". The strain hasn't died out.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 12th, 2012 at 02:02:47 AM EST
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