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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:28:30 PM EST
Former Murdoch Aides to Be Charged With Bribery - NYTimes.com
In a dramatic new turn in the scandals swirling around Rupert Murdoch's British newspaper outpost, prosecutors said on Tuesday that two former top executives will be charged with paying bribes of up to $160,000 to public officials in addition to several earlier charges against them.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:51:00 PM EST
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Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson Face Bribery Charges - The Daily Beast

The former CEO of News International, Rebekah Brooks, and David Cameron's former chief press officer, Andy Coulson, were told by Alison Levitt, QC, principal legal adviser to the crown prosecution service, that they faced additional charges of illegal payments to public officials.

Both Brooks and Coulson have already been charged with multiple instances of phone hacking and are due to stand trial in September next year, with Brooks facing additional charges of attempting to cover up the scandal when it emerged in summer 2011. Coulson faces perjury charges relating to a phone-hacking trial in Scotland.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:55:17 PM EST
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hahahahahahahahahahaha

Hanging's too good for 'em (and several other Sun phrases)

can't wait for the rest of the scuzzy crew to face chokey for their crimes against humanity

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:29:24 AM EST
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BBC News - Church of England general synod votes against women bishops

The general synod of the Church of England has voted narrowly against the appointment of women as bishops.

The measure was passed by the synod's houses of bishops and clergy but was rejected by the house of laity.

Supporters vowed to continue their campaign but it will be five years before a similar vote can be held.

Controversy had centred on the provisions for parishes opposed to women bishops to request supervision by a stand-in male bishop.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:56:26 PM EST
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I have to admit I was highly amused by this.

It is a strange thing tho'. If you believe your god says that only men can serve, then it's not something you can argue with. And you have to view those who argue otherwise as going against god's will. Religions are trapped by dogma and cannot bend to society, they aren't democratic institutions where things are settled by vote. It's their god's way or the highway

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:32:50 AM EST
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among Anglican "laity". The tightrope act between Catholicism and Protestantism, inaugurated by Henry VIII, continues. But without the public executions.

Hardly surprising, but highly amusing, that the professionals (the clergy) are more progressive than the "flock".

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:55:38 AM EST
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They still voted though.

It's like creationism: they use a semblance of scientific speech to promote their ideas. So "science" is officially the arbiter of how reality works.

In this case we have a semblance of "democracy". "Reasoned discussion" and "voting" is how we do things, even if it's a cargo cult version.

What would have been fun is to not go for a "majority" of the votes, but to go with the proposal that gets a "pleasing" number of votes or similar:
There's a story of eleven Chinese generals who voted two ways on their next move. One proposal got three votes, the other got eight. They went with the one that got three votes because three is odd and a "yang" number. That's how you do the gods' will and not just a majority of fallible humans.

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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 05:27:23 AM EST
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The Vatican has always selected a Pope in this way. It has nothing to do with democracy; the idea is they sit around until they are inspired by God to vote for the right candidate.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 05:38:45 AM EST
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For ways of God working, I guess I prefer "wacky" to "mysterious".


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:50:38 AM EST
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it's the logical convolutions that those voting against must go through that amazes me. Priests can be female, The head of the church can be, but Bishops can't.

makes no sense to me

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:32:57 AM EST
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Bishops got to have more mojo. Women in there would weaken the powerline to On High.

At least, that's for those who really believe something magical happens in church.

The others are hierarchical-conservatives for whom the personnel of those echelons is male. (As for the Head of the Church, it's like for the Army, the monarch is the monarch... though no doubt a King would feel more proper).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 08:00:56 AM EST
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Independent
The Archbishop of York insisted today that the Church of England had "not committed suicide" after moves to introduce women bishops were rejected in the General Synod.

John Sentamu, the second most senior bishop in the Church, admitted it was "very disappointing" that the draft legislation failed to clear its final hurdle.

It was carried in the houses of bishops and clergy in the General Synod, but failed to gain the necessary two-thirds majority amongst lay members

But Dr Sentamu insisted the Church was not "dead" and maintained that the principle of female bishops had been accepted.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:55:48 AM EST
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Have they devised a specific costume for female bishops?

A woman dressed as a man dressed as a woman might provoke gender identification issues among the faithful.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:57:43 AM EST
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Not to mention making it even harder to reconcile what the priest is wearing with Deuteronomy 22:5.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 05:06:09 AM EST
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Guardian - Andrew brown - Women bishops debate was a long and boring suicide note

Although the debate was notionally about the arrangements for women bishops - the principle having long since been conceded - the real objection came from conservative evangelicals who had not conceded the principle and never will. They do not, quite simply, believe that women should exercise teaching authority over men.

Again and again, opponents claimed they longed to see women bishops accepted by the whole church. Each time this happened, I had to pinch myself to remember that they were the bit of the church that didn't and don't accept women as bishops. If they want to see women bishops accepted by the whole church, all they need do is accept them.

This was the reality. Everyone in the chamber understood it very well. But no one would admit to it. The synod was bound within invisible pews, sitting in circles, gazing only at itself.

One speaker said, as if it mattered: "I don't believe that this is legislation that will allow the world to look at the church tonight and see Jesus Christ"; and no one pointed out that back on planet earth, the world will look at the church today and say: "Jesus Christ!"



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 09:16:26 AM EST
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Yeah, in my comment above I forgot the Evangelicals, who do not accept that women may teach or be set in authority over men.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:31:30 AM EST
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UK recognises Syria opposition coalition - Europe - Al Jazeera English

Britain has formally recognised the newly formed Syrian National Council opposition as the sole legitimate representative of the Syrian people, as violence continued to rage across the country.

William Hague, British Foreign Secretary, told the UK parliament on Tuesday it was in the interests of Syria, of the wider region and of the UK that "we support them and deny space to extremist groups". 



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:06:14 PM EST
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which extremist groups would they be ? The conitnuing government of syria who we have almost certainly old arms to in the past ?

Truly, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:34:34 AM EST
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Sarkozy 'to testify' over L'Oréal campaign funding scandal - FRANCE - FRANCE 24

Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy will appear before a judge on Thursday in connection with claims that he accepted illegal funds from Liliane Bettencourt, heiress to the L'Oréal cosmetics fortune, during his 2007 presidential campaign, French media reports said on Monday.

The French daily Le Figaro reported on its website that Sarkozy had been summoned to appear before Jean-Michel Gentil, a judge in the southwestern city of Bordeaux, and two judicial colleagues to ascertain whether Sarkozy's campaign, or other figures from his Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) party, received funds from a Swiss bank account held by Bettencourt. The allegations involve a tranche of seven international transfers worth a total of €4 million.

Sarkozy has dismissed the allegations as "slander".



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:31:13 PM EST
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BBC News - Polish man 'planned to blow up parliament'

Polish prosecutors say they have foiled a planned terror attack against the president, cabinet ministers and MPs.

A 45-year-old academic researcher has been arrested on suspicion of planning to detonate four tonnes of explosives in a vehicle at the parliament building during a budget debate, they say.

He has been charged with planning a terrorist attack and faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

Two other men were arrested for possessing illegal firearms.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:36:01 PM EST
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@FGoria
Epic Fail statement for Eurogroup about Greece http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_Data/docs/pressdata/en/ecofin/133634.pdf


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 02:26:29 AM EST
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@FGoria
12 hours of epic fail Eurogroup about Greece. Expectations for EU budget summit? Two weeks of talks?
@MatinaStevis

Well, those were 11 hours of my life I'm never getting back. Goodmorning, goodnight, whatever. #greece #eurogroup
11 hours earlier... @MatinaStevis
To be clear: Eurogroup in pause for bilaterals and will reconvene in full. As reported on @djfxtrader. Meeting has not broken up.
Some hours after... @MatinaStevis

I am not comfortable with important decisions that involve number-crunching being made at 4 am #eurogroup


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 02:32:17 AM EST
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Eurointelligence Daily Morning Newsbriefing: Agreement postponed (21.11.2012)
Eurozone finance ministers fail to agree a deal on Greece, and adjourn until next Monday; agreement would involve crossing several red lines, but there remains strong resistance to a write-down of Greek debt; Germany resists strong cuts in interest rates, while the Netherlands resists bond repurchases; a document prepared for the meeting says it was impossible for Greece to reach a 120% debt-to-GDP target without debt write-offs; in Greece, support for continued eurozone membership is falling, with 63% of Greece supporting continued membership at all costs; Syriza seized on last night's failure, saying that Greece delivers its side of the bargain, but gets nothing in return; the French parliament voted in favour of the government's austerity budget; the French government and opposition are blaming each other for the downgrade - while Moody's blames both; the downgrade has implications for the EFSF, which may also be downgraded, or reduce lending volumes further;  the Irish government seeks to negotiate €1bn savings in pay and pension bills; the European securities and insurance market supervisors says the Libor scandal will lead to an overhaul of Euribor as well; Benoit Coeure says he is hopeful that SSM could become operational in early 2013; says national taxpayers are first in line to pay for the failure of their banks; as part of a wider anti-tax evasion strategy, the Italian government is nearing an agreement with Switzerland; 20% of Italian households pay zero income taxes; Luis De Guindos claims 600000 families could benefit from new eviction rules; two Spanish judges have lodged a request from the ECJ over the new law; José Carlos Díez takes a balanced view of Mariano Rajoy's first year in office, but is sceptical that current economic policies are working; Sebastian Mallaby, meanwhile, writes a Spanish debt restructuring beckons.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 06:56:12 AM EST
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La Droite forte grande gagnante des motions de l'UMPThe Strong Right is the big winner among UMP factions
La Droite forte, mouvement lancé par plusieurs jeunes sarkozystes qui soutenaient Jean-François Copé pour la présidence de l'UMP, est arrivée largement en tête (28 %) du vote des adhérents du parti dimanche 18 novembre sur la reconnaissance inédite des courants. Il fait partie des six "mouvements" de l'UMP qui présentaient une motion aux suffrages des adhérents du parti.The "strong Right" movement launched by several young sarkozyists who supported Jean-Francois Cope for the presidency of the UMP arrived well ahead (28%) in the vote by members of the party on Sunday, 18 November, which for the first time acknowledges the existence of factions. It is one of the six "movements" of the UMP which presented a motion to the vote of party members.
Selon les chiffres officiels de la commission interne (Cocoe), qui a validé mardi soir le résultat de ce scrutin, la Droite forte devance la Droite sociale du filloniste Laurent Wauquiez (21,7 %), les Humanistes de Jean-Pierre Raffarin (18 %), et les Gaullistes (12,3 %), réunion des différentes chapelles gaullistes.According to official figures of the internal commission (Cocoe), which confirmed Tuesday the results of this poll,the "Strong Right" heads off the "Social Right" of Fillonist Laurent Wauquiez (21.7%), the "Humanists" of Jean-Pierre Raffarin (18%), and the Gaullists (12.3%), union of various Gaullist sects.
La Droite populaire (10,8 %), emmenée par l'ex-ministre Thierry Mariani et représentant l'aile droite du parti, a subi un revers, dû notamment à la concurrence de la Droite forte. Elle s'était fait connaître dans la seconde moitié du quinquennat Sarkozy en réclamant un "retour aux fondamentaux" de la droite et des prises de position musclées sur la sécurité et l'immigration.The "Popular Right" (10.8%), led by former Minister Thierry Mariani representing the right wing of the party has suffered a setback, due mainly to the strong competition of the "Strong Right". It became known in the second half of Sarkozy's presidential term demanding a "back to basics" of the right and muscular stance on security and immigration.
Malgré des soutiens prestigieux (Alain Juppé, Edouard Balladur...), la Boîte à idées, motion "antidivisions", qui a vue le jour grâce à quatre trentenaires et qui avait fait campagne en se démarquant de la Droite forte, n'a réalisé que 9,2 % des voix, et n'est donc pas reconnue.Despite prestigious support (Alain Juppe, Edouard Balladur ...), the "Suggestion box" an "antidivisions" motion, which came about thanks to four thirtyish figures, and had campaigned against the "Strong Right", has made only 9.2% of the votes and is therefore not recognized. [10% threshold]

Quick analysis : in fact, the "centre right" and the "hard right" are in equilibrium (40% and two factions each), the balance being the "Gaullists" (whatever that means these days) and Juppé's non-ideological pragmatists.

Now, since Coppé has got his hands on the apparatus, will there be more bloodletting? I suspect he's going to soft-pedal on the nasty stuff, to try to keep the party from exploding. But the hard right will feel empowered, so there will be outbreaks of public craziness.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:34:17 AM EST
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The media are headlining the victory of the "Strong Right". However, this faction, though coming first, only got 28%, hardly overwhelming.

But there's a faction even further right (Popular Right) that got 10%. As you say, 40% for the hard right tendency.

The rest, who knows? How many will leave for Borloo's centre-right? How many will just let themselves be led by Copé and the hard right? It's a question of who really wants to run the party most. On current form, it looks like the hard right.

No prizes for guessing who's happy with that.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:47:24 AM EST
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En direct : Election UMP : le camp Fillon conteste, Copé refuse sa requête - LeMonde.fr Live: Election UMP: Camp Fillon doubt, Cope refused his request - LeMonde.fr
Le camp de François Fillon a contesté mercredi 21 novembre les résultats du scrutin pour la présidence de l'UMP, assurant que 1 304 voix de trois fédérations d'outre-mer ont été oubliées dans le décompte et que leur réintégration donne leur champion vainqueur. L'ancien premier ministre a demandé à Alain Juppé d'assurer de façon transitoire la direction de l'UMP à la place de Jean-François Copé, mais a déclaré qu'il ne déposerait pas de recours contre le résultat de l'élection. Jean-François Copé et le président de la commission électorale, Patrice Gélard, ont refusé cette contestation.François Fillon's supporters challenged Wednesday, Nov. 21 the election results for the presidency of the UMP, claiming that 1304 voices of three overseas federations have been forgotten in the count, and if reintegrated, would make their champion the winner. Fillon has called on Alain Juppe to provide a transitional leadership of the UMP in place of Jean-Francois Cope, but said he would not file an appeal against the outcome of the election. Jean-Francois Cope and the president of the electoral commission, Patrice Gélard, have denied the challenge.

There may be weeks of sport still to come.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:07:43 AM EST
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Wow. There's going to be blood all over the walls. Copé will hang on, but he'll have to stamp on Fillon's head to win.

Which doesn't look good for the prospects of the UMP without Sarko. But then, it was only ever a Sarko support org.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:41:29 AM EST
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is that everyone recognizes that the overseas votes were indeed forgotten, but the "electoral commission" having already announced the outcome, it would have to be examined by the "appeals commission".

But Copé and Fillon have both (previously) said that they wouldn't be making any appeals. Because if Fillon appeals this issue, Copé will appeal a couple of suspicious results from Nice, where ballot-stuffing is suspected by a henchperson of Fillon.

I'm lovin' itTM

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 11:01:06 AM EST
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Sounds like it was too early to put the ol' bag of popcorn back into the pantry after all...
by Bernard on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:00:26 PM EST
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According to the JDD, Alain Juppé is willing to be interim head of the UMP while the conflict gets worked out.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:48:06 AM EST
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UMP: le camp Fillon revendique la victoire et menace de scission - Libération UMP: Fillon camp claims victory and threatens to split - Liberation
17h05. Ce n'est pas encore oui mais pas tout à fait un non.  Alain Juppé dit avoir «besoin de réfléchir» à la proposition d'un intérim à la tête de l'UMP. «Je suis un homme de réflexion pas d'implusion», a-t-il répondu à BFMTV. 17.05. It is not yet yes, but not quite a no. Alain Juppe said he "need to consider" to a proposed interim position as head of the UMP. "I'm a thinker not an implusive" he answered BFMTV.
17 heures. Juppé en casque bleu ou la scission. C'est la ligne menaçante validée par 110 parlementaires réunis autour de François Fillon au Musée social (VIIe arrondissement). Le député de Paris a déjà proposé au maire de Bordeaux de prendre l'interim du parti. Si Jean-François Copé refusait, les fillonistes menacent désormais de quitter le parti. 17 hours. Juppé as peacekeeper or a split. This is the threatening position validated by 110 parliamentarians gathered around François Fillon at the Musée Social (seventh arrondissement). The deputy of Paris has already proposed to the mayor of Bordeaux to take over the party in the interim. If Jean-Francois Cope refused, the fillonistes are now threatening to leave the party.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 11:29:20 AM EST
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 ECONOMY & FINANCE 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:29:15 PM EST
MP demands apology after abusive tweets are traced to Wonga employee

The MP and anti-payday loans campaigner Stella Creasy has demanded an apology from the online lender Wonga after a Guardian investigation uncovered evidence that an employee of the firm has been using an anonymous Twitter account to publicly attack her, calling her mentally unstable.

Wonga's slogan and adverts promise "straight talking money", but company computers appear to have been used to post anonymous comments on blogs critical of its practices and there is evidence that a second Wonga employee has deleted criticism from its Wikipedia page.

A computer in the Wonga offices appears to have been used to remove from the company's Wikipedia page a reference to controversy over its sponsorship of Newcastle United Football Club and to delete the category of "usury" under the See Also section.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:53:14 PM EST
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This explanation has nothing to do with wonga's business model. I can't imagine why I posted it here



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:39:01 AM EST
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Leaders appeal to strengthen collaboration for economic growth - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Asia leaders and international heads pledged Tuesday at the 7th East Asia Summit (EAS) to cement ties in deepening regional cooperation to better cope with the global economic downturn.

Asian nations need closer cooperation to promote regional economy, as the European debt crisis and the U.S. fiscal cliff crisis weighed on Asia's economy, said President Haruhiko Kuroda of Asia Development Bank (ADB) on Tuesday.

Kuroda's idea is echoed by Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei at the summit, saying ASEAN should unite on the topics of energy, environment protection, climate change, and disaster management, which are vital to the economic boom. The ideas were also echoed by Nguyen Tan Dung, the prime minister of Vietnam.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:25:33 PM EST
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BBC News - Kweku Adoboli jailed for fraud over £1.4bn UBS loss

A City trader who lost £1.4bn ($2.2bn) of Swiss bank UBS's money has been jailed for seven years after being found guilty of two counts of fraud.

Southwark Crown Court heard Kweku Adoboli was "a gamble or two away from destroying Switzerland's largest bank".

He lost the money in "unprotected, unhedged, incautious and reckless" trades, the jury was told.

Adoboli, 32, of Whitechapel, east London, was cleared of four charges of false accounting.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:36:29 PM EST
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Yet I found his defense argument quite persuasive; that he and his colleague found themselves working in an area where there was no expertise and they themselves had only a couple of years trading experience, yet were expected to deliver increasing profits. they were working 14-16 hour days, sleeping at their desks. It was no surprise it started going wrong.

the system chews people up and spits them out, it's merciless. He wasn't punished for doing wrong, he was punished because his losses threatened to expose the system.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:46:21 AM EST
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Thou shalt not be found out.


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 06:02:29 AM EST
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He's in jail for losing a lot of money. If he'd made a lot of money he would have been promoted.

The fact that the bank seems to have no concept of oversight or diligence is irrelevant.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:00:37 AM EST
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as someone was saying last night, At last we've found out how Bankers get jailed, it's because they are Black

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:34:33 AM EST
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It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:35:53 AM EST
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Greece Needs Growth, Not Austerity | Bloomberg
Gross domestic product has declined more than 20 percent since 2008. The unemployment rate has tripled, and now stands at 25 percent, with joblessness among youth at twice that level. Crime is on the rise, as are racist incidents, and ideologies of the extreme right and left are gaining significant support.
[...]
The reforms that are the only pathways to growth, such as building a well-functioning public administration and liberalizing markets, are resisted by Greek politicians and vested interests. They are also greatly underemphasized by the troika's push for austerity.
[...]
More generally, the troika should emphasize structural changes rather than the rapid accumulation of a primary surplus.

I do like the bit about vested interests. As always concern about what they mean by "liberalizing".


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:46:22 AM EST
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 WORLD 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:37:24 PM EST
BBC News - Gaza crisis: Hamas says ceasefire 'imminent'

A ceasefire is set to be announced in the Gaza conflict, Egyptian and Palestinian officials say.

Egypt's President Mohammed Mursi, who has led mediation efforts, said he expected Israel to end air strikes late on Tuesday. A Hamas official also told the BBC a truce was imminent.

Israel has not confirmed this, but has put plans for a land invasion on hold.

It also said that an Israeli soldier and a civilian had been killed by a rockets fired from Gaza.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:56:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Israel urges Gazans to evacuate their homes - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Israel has been dropping leaflets on the Gaza Strip, urging residents to leave their homes immediately if they want to stay safe.

The flyers, dropped on Tuesday, urged residents in northern Gaza to use specific routes when leaving their homes



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:05:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
and go where ???

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:46:49 AM EST
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Hamas blames Israel for 'delay' of truce deal - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

A Hamas official has said that the anticipated announcement of a truce agreement with Israel has been delayed.

Ezzat al-Rishq told Reuters news agency that there would be no announcement until Wednesday.

"The Israeli side has not responded yet, so we will not hold a (news) conference this evening and must wait until tomorrow," said Rishq.

"The truce is now held up because we are waiting for the Israeli side to respond."

Another Hamas official Ayman Taha had told the Reuters news agency that the truce would be declared and in effect by 2200GMT on Tuesday night.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:05:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ha'aretz
7:41 A.M. IDF says the rocket that hit a residential building in the central Israeli city of Rishon Letzion on Tuesday was an M-75 Fajr missiles made in the Gaza Strip .
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 02:57:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or imports from Libya.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 05:39:04 AM EST
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Report: Iran missile technology had been sent to Gaza - Al Jazeera Blogs

The report on Wednesday quotes Jafari as saying Iran has supplied technology to Gaza for the missiles to be produced "quickly".

Up to now, Iran denied it directly supplied Hamas with the Fajr-5.

Looks as if Iran wants the blame.

by Katrin on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:33:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
972mag
Israeli top model Bar Refaeli, whose every move, shmooze, instagram and tweet is reported extensively in Israeli media, got herself in a bit of a jam when one of her posts on Twitter didn't seem to meet the criteria demanded by the masses who support the assault on Gaza.

Refaeli tweeted on Nov 17:

The response was quick and lethal (almost like a bird of "pray", which is how I suppose Refaeli would spell it (sorry Bar, I had to...)). She was bombarded on Twitter, and the mainstream media picked up on it, too

This post is almost certainly the only coverage of the topic that does not include a large picture of the model (but you can click on the link if you really have to....)
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:27:43 PM EST
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Aleppo rebels retract rejection of coalition - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Opposition commanders in the Syrian city of Aleppo have voiced their support to the Syrian National Coalition, a day after a video emerged showing fighters from at least 14 brigades announcing their rejection of the opposition bloc.

The powerful Liwaa al-Tawhid Brigade, along with the Aleppo Military Council and Transitional Military Council, in a video uploaded on YouTube on Tuesday, said they would co-operate with the newly formed opposition body, but called for greater representation in it.

They also said that the earlier statement by some local commanders rejecting the coalition was due to "the marginalisation of the revolutionary forces on the ground"



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:07:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
DR Congo rebels seize Goma - Africa - Al Jazeera English

Rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo have taken control of Goma, the main city in the country's mineral-rich east, after several days of fighting with UN-backed government forces, a spokesman for the M23 rebel group has said.

Heavily armed rebels walked through the centre of the city that is home to one million people, without facing resistance on Tuesday, as United Nations peacekeepers observed and small groups of residents greeted them. 

"The town of Goma fell at 11:33 local time, despite the attack helicopters, despite the heavy weapons, the FARDC [Congolese army] has let the town fall into our hands," Vianney Kazarama, an M23 spokesman, told the Reuters news agency by phone.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:07:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Rwanda's invading army - Africa - World - The Independent

Rebels widely believed to have links to Rwanda have overrun UN peacekeepers to seize control of the strategically important eastern Congo city of Goma, leading experts to warn that the conflict could spill over into a wider regional war.

After three days of intense fighting, the Congolese army fled the city and UN forces stood aside to let rebels from the M23 group march into Goma.

The rebels, who a UN panel of experts say have been supported by Rwanda and to a lesser extent Uganda, said they will now push further into the Democratic Republic of Congo.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:34:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It feels weird rating this as "excellent".  I'm sure I don't have to clarify, but my rating is for reporting an under-reported event that needs wider attention.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 08:56:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"Excellent" is just a label. The uses of a 4 are many and varied, including wishing to draw attention to a comment or news item.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 05:24:06 AM EST
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Indeed; and as maracatu is mentioning, terrible events involving poor black people dying in a remote African country are under-reported.
by Bernard on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:05:29 PM EST
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Afghan forces set to take security charge by end of 2013 - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Afghan government forces will take over full security charge from the NATO-led coalition troops by the end of 2013, a year ahead of schedule, a spokesman of the Defense Ministry said Tuesday.

"The Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) particularly the Afghan National Army (ANA) get entirely ready to take security responsibilities from the coalition forces by the end of 2013," General Zahir Azimi told a press briefing.

The last contingent of 33,000 U.S. reinforcing troops deployed to Afghanistan for nearly three years were pulled out of the country in September this year, handing over to Afghan army or closing down 550 military bases before leaving the country, Azimi added.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:25:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
COLOMBIAN PEACE TALKS:
The Pan-American Post: The second round of peace talks between the Colombian government and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) officially began in Havana, Cuba yesterday with a surprising announcement from Ivan Marquez, the FARC's second-in-command and leader of the group's negotiation team. In a press conference, Marquez said that the FARC's leadership had "order[ed] its guerrilla units throughout the country to halt all types of offensive military operations against government forces as well as all acts of sabotage against public or private infrastructure" beginning at midnight on November 20th and ending at midnight on January 20th.
MercoPress: Colombian Minister of Defence Juan Carlos Pinzón said that security forces will continue with military operations in the country despite the unilateral two-month cease fire declared by the guerrilla group FARC, which becomes effective Monday 24:00 hours.

Recommendation: Pan-American Post has a number of additional interesting news items.

LAHT, WASHINGTON - Alan Gross, a U.S. contractor serving a 15-year sentence in Cuba for subversion, and his wife, Judy, have sued the United States and the company that hired him for not warning him about the risks of traveling to the Communist-ruled island nor providing him with adequate protection.

Tim's El Salvador Blog: A wide coalition of El Salvador's churches came together Saturday to launch the Pastoral Initiative for Life and Peace.    Bishops and pastors from the Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Assembly of God, and other protestant and evangelical churches came together to indicate their collective agreement to use their role as pastors of Christian churches to advocate for a culture of peace in El Salvador.   The clergy see the current gang truce as a true opening where an opportunity for peace exists.

LAHT, BOGOTA - Colombia will open talks with Nicaragua on protecting the rights of Colombian fishermen in waters awarded to Managua in a world court ruling, the Andean nation's foreign minister said Tuesday.

LAHT, RIO DE JANEIRO - Brazilian authorities announced Monday the construction of a semiconductor factory costing 1 billion reais ($500 million) that will have among its partners IBM and Eike Batista, Brazil's richest man.


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 09:47:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ha'aretz
The Tel Aviv municipality has placed security guards at entrances to public bomb shelters that opened Saturday night in the southern part of the city after homeless people, mostly migrants from Africa, tried to sleep there.
Failed Messiah
Haredim in Ashdod, probably Gur hasidim, have reportedly illegally gender segregated bomb shelters, banning women and girls from a building's shelter that haredim have designated for men only.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 01:55:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
TPM
Former Romney campaign adviser Dan Senor on Wednesday acknowledged that he and his fellow Republicans misread the American electorate in 2012, while suggesting that the election proves there is "some kind of systemic crisis today in the world of polling." Senor specifically highlighted the poor perform/ance by right-leaning pollsters such as Rasmussen, as well as Gallup.
Has he really never heard of Nate Silver? Obama certainly has, as this video proves:

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 04:10:06 PM EST
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 LIVING OFF THE PLANET 
 Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:38:23 PM EST
Farewell, CIA Climate Center. We Hardly Knew Ye. | Mother Jones

Last year I reported on the CIA's Center on Climate Change and National Security, which opened in September 2009 to gather and analyze information about the effects of climate change on national security. The center had been a target of Republican ire, which is perhaps part of the reason that the CIA didn't want to talk about what they actually did over there when I tried to interview them for my article.

Apparently the CIA scrapped the Center earlier this year without telling anyone, Greenwire reports:

Multiple sources with knowledge of the center said it closed its doors earlier this year, with its staff and analysis continuing under other auspices.
CIA spokesman Todd Ebitz confirmed the change.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:23:26 PM EST
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Greenhouse gas concentrations reach new record in 2011: WMO - Xinhua | English.news.cn

The amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reached a new record high in 2011, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said Tuesday.

Total radioactive forcing, or the warming effect on the climate, of all long-lived greenhouse gases was the carbon dioxide (CO2) equivalent of 473 parts per million last year, a 30 percent increase over that in 1990, said the WMO 2011 Greenhouse Gas Bulletin.

CO2, which is the single most important greenhouse gas emitted by human activities, accounted for about 80 percent of the increase; and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere reached 390.0 parts per million in 2011, or 140 percent of the pre-industrial level, according to the bulletin.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:26:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oil and gas workers fracked by on-the-job injuries | Grist

On a cloudy spring morning, Ethan Ritter sat behind the wheel of a dump truck, lost in the maze of oil rigs northeast of Williston, N.D. Ritter, then 21, was hauling a load of gravel for his brother, who was doing road construction. He made a full stop at the tracks; there were no boom gates, only a crossing sign. His CB radio was off and all was quiet. Ritter looked both ways, then eased on the gas and headed into the crossing.

Next thing he knew, a Burlington Northern Santa Fe engine was shoving his truck down the track sideways at more than 40 miles an hour. "It was crazier than any roller coaster you can find, I'll tell you that!" he recalls. "All I know is I got hit by the train. And that I was still kicking."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 05:05:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:38:49 PM EST
Ecstasy Treatment for Post-Traumatic Stress Shows Promise - NYTimes.com
Hundreds of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans with post-traumatic stress have recently contacted a husband-and-wife team who work in suburban South Carolina to seek help. Many are desperate, pleading for treatment and willing to travel to get it.

The soldiers have no interest in traditional talking cures or prescription drugs that have given them little relief. They are lining up to try an alternative: MDMA, better known as Ecstasy, a party drug that surfaced in the 1980s and '90s that can induce pulses of euphoria and a radiating affection. Government regulators criminalized the drug in 1985, placing it on a list of prohibited substances that includes heroin and LSD. But in recent years, regulators have licensed a small number of labs to produce MDMA for research purposes.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:52:11 PM EST
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Uruguay poised to become first country to legalize marijuana - Times Of India

Uruguay is poised to become the first country in the world to legalize marijuana (cannabis).Last week, a bill was introduced in the General Assembly to legally permit marijuana cultivation and consumption within certain limits. The bill will be voted on in the lower house (Chamber of Deputies) in the coming weeks and if passed would then be voted on by the upper house (Chamber of Senators) early next year.

The Uruguayan move comes close on the heels of marijuana legalization in two states of the US - Washington and Colorado on Nov.6 this year. The use of cannabis and other drugs is already legal in Uruguay, one of Latin America's safest countries and a trailblazer on liberal lawmaking, but the sale and cultivation of drugs is not.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:54:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The US govt led criminal narcotic complex is continuing to fracture

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:51:09 AM EST
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Unemployment may be associated with increased heart attack risk: study - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Unemployment, multiple job losses and short periods without work may be associated with increased risk for acute myocardial infarction (AMI, heart attack), according to a report published online Monday by Archives of Internal Medicine.

Many adults in the United States are affected by the strain of employment instability, but little is known about the cumulative effect of multiple job losses and unemployment on the risks for AMI, according to the study background.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:26:31 PM EST
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Benefits stigma: how newspapers report on welfare | News | guardian.co.uk

Those working in benefits and with claimants have become increasingly exasperated with the gap between the reality of poor peoples' lives and the rhetoric of welfare reform.

Such is the scale of successive governments' disinformation that the report by Turn2us, part of anti-poverty charity Elizabeth Finn, calls for ministers to abandon briefing journalists in advance of their speeches and asks departments to seek corrections for "for predictable and repeated media misinterpretations".

The researchers tested the accuracy of recent government pronouncements and found them lacking. It highlights that ministers - including chancellor George Osborne - had claimed there were families taking £100,000 a year in housing benefit. In fact there were five such families in the UK. Last year ministers appeared to brief that 1,360 people had been off work for a decade with diarrhoea - when in fact they had severe bowel diseases and cancer.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 05:50:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Rupert Murdoch Apologizes for 'Jewish-Owned Press' Tweet | The Wrap Media

Rupert Murdoch apologized on Sunday for a tweet criticizing the "Jewish owned press."

On Saturday, he asked, "Why Is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?"

The tweet played into the old anti-Semitic canard that Jews control the media. Many of the News Corp. CEO's 367,000 followers immediately called him out for it, spurring his apology.

"'Jewish owned press' have been sternly criticised, suggesting link to Jewish reporters," Murdoch tweeted. "Don't see this, but apologise unreservedly."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:28:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Murdoch apologises again for tweet on 'Jewish press' - MEDIA - FRANCE 24

Media magnate Rupert Murdoch stirred an online row with a tweet complaining about the "Jewish owned" press and apologized again Monday in a bid to calm the furor.

Murdoch, whose News Corporation empire includes HarperCollins publishers, Fox television, BSkyB, The Wall Street Journal and the London Times, wrote Saturday on Twitter: "Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel in every crisis?"

Facing accusations of anti-Semitism, Murdoch backtracked on Sunday, saying he disagreed with his critics, but was sorry anyway.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:30:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Murdoch translated "I didn't do anything wrong, if you were offended, I will go through the motions of apologising because you are the sort of weak minded people mollified by such gestures, but actually f... you"

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 03:54:16 AM EST
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In Britain as in Europe, the protests against austerity have failed. We have to try another way - Comment - Voices - The Independent

If you're lacking in inspiration, go and chat to the students of Featherstone Sixth Form in Southall, like I did last Friday. They will shatter any clichéd prejudices about an apathetic X-Factor generation who stare blankly when politics is even mentioned, only to vote enthusiastically when it comes to Big Brother. These bright young women and men were full of excitement and eloquence as they discussed their futures, as well as those of Britain and the world; and they were full of fury and frustration about the fact their generation was the first to face being poorer than their parents since Berlin fell to the Allies.

But there was something else that struck me: and, having done dozens of talks across Britain in the past year, it was uncomfortably familiar. There was a hint of hopelessness: of the futility of protest that could easily be brushed away by the powerful. My appeal to precedent - of the successful movement against the Poll Tax which helped topple Maggie, or the Leeds bin collectors who defeated an attempt to slash their pay by up to a third in 2009 - was indulged, but I'm not sure it was particularly convincing. And here I saw the story of what has happened to the movement against the Government, or austerity, or whatever you want to call it, since 2010. The anger is there; the fear of the future is evident; and yet hope - a crucial ingredient of progressive change - was missing.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:33:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hopeless? Sounds about right.
Most people are in just the right place: below hope (i.e. action) and above pitchforks (i.e. violent action).

Hmm. Maybe you could put "anger" on the horizontal axis and "hope" on the vertical:

doing fine | political change
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<-- low | "anger" | high -->
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meh | meh

meh.

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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:49:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And it boils down to two ingenious strategies by the Government. First, to redirect people's fury from those who caused the crisis, to their neighbours down the street. Secondly, manipulating the absence of a coherent alternative offered by the Opposition, leading to a widespread sense of resignation.
Demonisation

The first has, in truth, been devastatingly effective. The former Lib Dem minister Sarah Teather recounted the Government's demonisation strategy at the weekend; her lip apparently trembled as she did so. "Whenever there is any hint of opposition, they wheel out a caricature of a family, usually a very large family, probably black," she confessed. This deliberate attempt "to stoke up envy and division between people in order to gain popularity at the expense of children's lives is immoral," she said.

The Guardian: Benefit cap is immoral and divisive, says top Liberal Democrat (17 November 2012)
"There are all sorts of things you have to do when times are tight that have negative consequences but you do them for good purposes. But to do something for negative purposes that also has negative consequences - that is immoral," says Teather. She praised Nick Clegg for showing "immense courage" in limiting some of the effects of welfare cuts and urged her party to fight as hard as it possibly could to prevent more. She said many people in her constituency, which is one of the most ethnically diverse and deprived in the country, did not realise what was about to hit them next April.

Middle-class families were also ignorant of the huge impact of the changes on those around them, particularly on children, because of the caricatures peddled by government and the rightwing press about those on benefits. She believes the effects may only sink in when children from "nice middle-class families who send their kids to the local primary school come home and say 'my friend has just disappeared'. I think then it might hit home and they might realise a whole set of children have disappeared from the class." Teather added: "I am frankly terrified about what is going to happen. A lot of these families do not know what is going to happen to them ... How good is the education system at working out where that child has moved to? How good is the child protection system going to be at working out where children have moved to? I don't feel confident of that."

...

A spokesman for Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions minister, said: "The criticisms Sarah Teather is levelling against the government's welfare reforms are hugely misinformed and therefore result in needless scaremongering. It's not fair or right that benefits claimants receive higher incomes than hard-working families who are striving to get on in life. Our reforms bring fairness back to the system while ensuring we support the most vulnerable."

Of course people will say that this is sour grapes from Sarah Teather after her recent sacking from the cabinet.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 08:25:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
She's being savaged as a hypocrite on twitter, too, on the argument that she's now realised she's facing reelection in a marginal seat and she should have known the policies of the government she was part of were impacting her constituents.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 08:44:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
If she'd made the criticisms a year ago when it was becoming obvious what the govt were up to, she might have gained some respect. But now she's just a day late and a dollar short when it comes to protesting what's going down

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 09:03:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Could she have made those criticisms publicly and remained a minister? So, the question is, how early should she have resigned or forced her dismissal?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 09:13:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
One may as well ask how long you can hold LibDem principles and remain a member of the Coalition.

Whenever she did it there would have been problems, but, as of today, she's a day late and a dollar short

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 09:19:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Brent Central should be a safe Labour seat by now.


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 09:50:04 AM EST
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Oh Brother! Last typewriter to be made in Britain comes off production line at company's factory which made five million | Mail Online

Once every office and most homes in the UK rattled and rang with their unmistakable sound but today marked the end of an era for the humble typewriter.

The last one to be made in Britain has been taken off the factory floor as Brother stopped manufacturing the machine at its north Wales factory.

The company has made 5.9 million in Wrexham since 1985 and has sent its last typewriter to the Science Museum in London to be displayed as an artefact.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 05:29:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Can we get rid of the QWERTY keyboard now?

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 11:36:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
AZERTY is morally superior.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 11:37:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No one for Dvorak?
Datahand always seemed like fun.


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:05:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I was thinking of Chorded Keyboards.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:10:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, yes. (Fixed link)

I'm sure I saw a PDA (remember those?) with a scroll wheel for the thumb in one corner and buttons for each finger on the opposite side.

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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:21:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:39:12 PM EST
To this mere fiddler, what guitarists achieve with Recuerdos on one single instrument is amazing.


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by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:26:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A friend of mine who was a Grade 8 classical guitarist said it took him 6 months to learn to do that.

this is a bit more contemporary. One guitarist, lots of dropped jaws. (and just a normal guitar, not that harp thing pictured)



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 11:07:25 AM EST
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