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Sex, Lies & the CIA. The General Betray U.S. Affair in Congress!

by Democrats Ramshield Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 08:31:43 AM EST

(Written by an American expat living in the European Union)
The German mainstream magazine Der Spiegel has published an article entitled, Sex, Lies & the CIA. That title has inspired me to write this diary, as ours has become a land where betrayal of the trust that we put in public officials has not only become common place, it is in fact expected, as if it had become part of our American DNA, or national political genome, as part of the natural order of things in the modern day neo-feudalist America. Where we're told by the media, Americans punish honesty and reward betrayal, and therefore the media merely gives the American people what they want, which is 'happy talk.'

The media tells us that Americans accept betrayal by the political class willingly by their apathy, and therefore get the government they deserve.
In a clear case wherein the oaths of office and campaign promises of elected and appointed officials are generally disregarded, because their betrayal of us has become an accepted norm in America, which rarely if ever is punished. Therefore this makes the resignation of David Petraeus as spy master and chief over a sex scandal somewhat unique in modern American history.


THE DAVID PETRAEUS AFFAIR VS. THE GENERAL YOU HAVE BETRAYED US AFFAIR IN WASHINGTON
Yet amazingly we all seem shocked when it happens again. This diary isn't about the lurid details of the affair between Gen. David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell and the expanding investigation that included Gen. Allen and Jill Kelley, which caused David Petraeus to resign as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, when a leaked FBI investigation into alleged threatening emails sent to Jill Kelley, reportedly led to Paula Broadwell's email account, (which allegedly revealed an affair between David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell). This diary also isn't about alleged improper emails sent from General Allen to Jill Kelley. It is instead about the betrayal of the public by its public officials and by the American press corps, whom have stopped covering real news of real importance to mainstream America in favor of profitable, gottcha tabloid journalism.

The media betrayed U.S.
This diary is about what happens to a country that has been sold out. A country where old style shoe leather investigative reporting is dead, as is the trust that the American people have in its public officials wherein we put our children, our faith and the future of our country in their hands, only to be sold out in favor of the K street lobbyists time and time again, and the for-profit American plutocrat owned media. In a clear case where elections like the 2 billion dollar virtually depoliticized election of 2012 that we just went through, are bought and paid for by private capital, primarily financial capital. This against the backdrop of an American society which has become increasingly atomized. In a clear case where the American public feels powerless and angry with millions no longer knowing the way out.

In a posture where 59 million people don't have any health insurance, 132 million are without dental insurance, 45 million are on food stamps. In what must be seen as the death of the working class American dream wherein one third of all mortgages are underwater. The student loan debt bubble stands at a billion dollars and then suddenly along comes the General Petraeus affair to remind us that we can't trust our public officials.

Has America truly become a land of puritan happy talk that punishes honesty and rewards expected betrayal?
Why did this happen? Certainly he could have divorced his wife and had a girlfriend, clearly that would have been more honest. No one in mainstream America would have ever expected him to resign over that. But the truth is as betrayal by our public officials in Washington of the trust of ordinary working class Americans has become so common place, so ingrained in Washington culture that we've come to expect it, some say demand it, to the point where honest people can't get elected or appointed to public office anymore.

So where oh where has America lost is way!
Let's examine for a moment the reality that we in America routinely for generations ever since the bonus march of World War I veterans on Washington have accepted as the norm the betrayal of our American veterans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_march

When our veterans return to civilian life they are regularly cheated out of many of their veteran benefits (and medical care), leaving hundreds of thousands of American veterans in desperate shape unable to get needed medical care. This however isn't new. To reiterate it's all happened before and keeps happening. It happened again during the Vietnam War, where more veterans committed suicide than were actually killed by the so-called enemy and now the whole thing is happening all over to a new generation of young Americans. The Washington establishment and press corps for the most part don't care, that these veterans can't get the necessary medical and psychiatric care.

Both Army captains died on March 21, a continent apart. The next day, and the next day, and the next, more soldiers would die by their own hand, one every day on average, about as many as are dying on the battlefield. These are active-duty personnel, still under the military's control and protection. Among all veterans, a suicide occurs every 80 minutes, round the clock.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2119337,00.html

But where I live in the European Union that doesn't happen because here they have socialized medicine which essentially covers 100% of the population from cradle to grave as a human right, but that doesn't matter to the American press corps with their for-profit orientation, because in America (unlike Europe) they don't have to compete with publicly owned media. That's why they're apart of the 'Betray us' affair. Likewise, half of our members of Congress are millionaires and they will not make their ilk, who are the ultra rich pay their fair share of the taxes and they therefore too have become part of the 'Betray us' affair.

America has the only purely for-profit medical system and according to a recent Harvard study, this causes 45,000 Americans to die prematurely each and every year. This too is a part of the 'Betray us' affair. When these Americans pass, even though their numbers far exceed the number of war dead in all the American wars combined, there are no monuments built to the memory of these fallen Americans who are victims of the class warfare conducted against ordinary working class people by the American plutocracy. To which this diary asks, aren't these victims human? Aren't they our fellow Americans? But this too is a part of the general 'betray us' affair and quite perversely our press corps instead of focusing on these issues, they focus on the affair of David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell. This to their eternal shame to which we should note that pigs can have no shame. That is if they're capitalist pigs, but it's more than just that isn't it?

   

"Only FOUR OUT OF 150 countries have more wealth inequality than US."
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/11/19-3

Aren't we betrayed by the national deficit?
When the deficitdue to the actions of the Wall Street banksters threatens to topple not only the American economy but to collapse the global economy, in what the German magazine Spiegel called 'a monumental insider bank robbery'. No one went to jail. Except for Bernie Madoff, because this too is a part of the general betray us affair. Now let's be clear that my heart bleeds peanut butter for the falling star of the darling of the GOP who is David Petraeus, but I note that the man (even if true) was trapped in a bad marriage should have been allowed to get a divorce and still keep his career. He shouldn't have been forced to feel that he had to carry on this subterfuge that led to this preventable scandal. That was forced by the fact that we are such a fine, moral, upstanding nation that we would force this man's resignation, while at the same time we don't force other public officials to step down who were responsible for the failures of 9/11, who are responsible for keeping a completely dysfunctional medical system going. Who exactly was it who had to resign because of the Wall Street crash in 2008. No one was forced to resign, no one goes to jail because we expect these people to betray us. In keeping with our site mission here if we're going to help elect better progressive politicians, then this must change.

PS:
(So it is now that we turn from this commercial interruption back to our regularly scheduled program to give us all of the salacious details (smile) in the thrust of the matter of the David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell affair, and how some yet to be named rogue FBI agent leaked the whole matter to the press after sending numerous (allegedly) unwanted topless photos of themselves to Paula Broadwell and...............(tongue in cheek)........)

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hundreds of thousands of American veterans in desperate shape unable to get needed medical care.

And why is that worse than hundreds of thousands of non-military Americans with the same predicament?

by Katrin on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 11:35:35 AM EST
excellent question! better get those babies into miltary uniform so they can be more deserving.

this veteran suicide thing always is judged as PTSD from seeing things on the battlefield no human nervous system was made to see, but i wonder if it isn't just as attributable to the cultural shock from revisiting  what kind of society they were risking their lives for in the first place.

when you grow in one environment, that's all you know as normal. once you have see how others live and you asee what we waste, and face the full facts head on, well i can see whay that would be the last straw for these traumatised (on so many levels) people.

it's easier to pretend that doesn't matter when your head is comfortably buried beneath the sand, much harder to remain in the denial necessary for most social functionality when your bubble has popped, and you realise how terribly you were gulled into believing the exceptionalist myth, and likely having causing, directly or indirectly innocents' early deaths.

 

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 12:44:17 PM EST
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Because supposedly veterans sacrificed themselves for their nation and they deserve something in return. Whereas the rest of them are just moochers, to put it in Romneyspeak. Then again...
"If you would have served our country better you would not be a disabled veteran living off Social Security while the rest of us honest Americans work our ass off. Too bad; you should have died."
(Debt collector to disabled veteran, allegedly)

Curiously, it's now the progressive Democrats that come up with things like "General Betray-Us" (MoveOn.org originated that one during the Iraq surge) and use veterans' rights as a wedge issue to use patriotism and militarism against the Republican assault to the welfare state.

In other words, US Democrats are generally too militaristic and patriotic for European tastes.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:20:50 PM EST
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Supposedly, hm. I didn't know about the sacrificing, I thought it was lack of jobs and of unemployment benefits that drives people to the military. I can't find soldiers in the list of the most dangerous jobs in the US. Aren't soldiers risking other people's lives, not their own, or am I getting their job description wrong?

Generals always have an even lower risk than the rest of the military. Probably it's more likely they die of a heart attack while fucking someone they are not married to than of anything else.

by Katrin on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 03:22:45 PM EST
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A lot of this harkens back to WWII "greatest generation" mythology (which, as with all myths, has some truth in it).

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 03:33:02 PM EST
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I think the Dems get war-fever because, like Blair's Nu-Lab, they feel they always have to ensure they are never caught being to the left of the  republican/conservative party on defence.

So much so that Obama only appoint republicans as secretary of defence because appointing a Democrat would be seen as being soft

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:22:07 PM EST
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To Katrin,
Thank you for your very erudite question. Clearly you are quite correct. Logically the position that veterans find themselves in can't be any worse than the average citizen finds themselves in when they are both deprived of needed medical care and humane treatment. The appalling human suffering and dehumanization is exactly the same.

There is however one difference of note and that is that even American veterans who have served faithfully and honorably through the position which their services earned them feel that even they are not safe from the betrayal of the political class and the betrayal of the American plutocracy in modern day neo-feudalist America.

This has had a long established tradition historically for which there is evidence dating back to the Bonus March of WW1 where the United States government broke promises made to its war veterans in the First World War and shamefully ordered that the United States Army ride them down when they came to Washington to protest, in precisely the same way the US Army rode down Native Americans at the behest of the American political class who betrayed them in every treaty they ever signed with them. Therefore much of American history is a history of monumental betrayal. So it is also that the betrayal of Native Americans by the Washington political class today is still alive and well, quite shamefully so!

For example the US government according to rulings by the United States Supreme Court has illegally confiscated the Black Hills from the Lakota Sioux nations. Though the US government has offered compensation for this, this compensation amounting to $10,000 per person was not accepted by the Lakota people despite being one of the poorest people on earth, who continue to resist the robber baron tactics of the American political class historic avarice and betrayal. It is this betrayal that my article attempts to encapsulate in general, which is not restricted to the Native American people, is not restricted to the African-American slave history or exploitation of other peoples in America, but it has now become widespread to the point where it is destroying the mainstream American working class. This general betrayal is under-reported by the American media, whose corporate masters are the modern day robber baron American ruling class in the neo-feudal America of 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hills_Land_Claim

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/11/un_probe_us_should_return_stolen

   

sig...You just ran into a hardcore progressive who's just another working stiff with an MBA degree & therefore a vociferous labor union supporter [smile]

by Democrats Ramshield on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 06:57:37 AM EST
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This has had a long established tradition historically for which there is evidence dating back to the Bonus March of WW1 where the United States government broke promises made to its war veterans in the First World War and shamefully ordered that the United States Army ride them down when they came to Washington to protest
Yes, but the GI Bill erased from the public consciousness and the political conventional wisdom the blemish of the Bonus March. This was nothing other than the post-WWII welfare state philosophy erasing the memory of the pre-New-Deal policies of the early part of the Great Depression.

In many ways which turn out to be related, the 40-year span from 1933 to 1973 represents a historical anomaly.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:12:37 AM EST
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sig...You just ran into a hardcore progressive who's just another working stiff with an MBA degree & therefore a vociferous labor union supporter [smile]
by Democrats Ramshield on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 10:35:08 AM EST
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Whatever people might think of the matter in the EU, I really don't run across anyone in the US that considers Gen. Patreaus' affair to be a betrayal of anything other than his personal, family allegiances -- a common sinner, nothing more. So the connection between the Patraeus affair, which is newsworthy, as it should be, for its salaciousness, and the wider critiques of the US that you have seems to be a bit strained at best.

And I find it interesting that your Der Spiegel inspired criticisms of the US are occurring just after the US electorate routed the forces of neoliberalism and conservatism in a very high-profile election where austerity policies were prominently at issue and rejected, choosing instead to re-elect a Nobel Peace Prize winning person of color and son of an immigrant.  The EU, meanwhile, remains mired in austerity paralysis.

I think either yours, or Der Spiegel's, timing may be just a bit off regarding your latest posts.  The US is proving to be the more progressive side of the Atlantic after all.

by santiago on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 01:20:15 PM EST
Der Spiegel likes to point out the mote in the US to distract about the beam in the EU.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:16:04 PM EST
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true, these articles are starting to resemble the america-bashing so gleefully rendered on RT!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 04:45:45 PM EST
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The US is proving to be the more progressive side of the Atlantic...

Well, that is what a modest majority of the electorate voted for. Whether Obama pushes back on the cuts that the Conventional Wisdom says are needed remains to be seen. At least it seems like the top percent or two will have their income taxes increased. And Obama is pragmatically progressive on social issues. The real 'tell' will be what, if anything, will be done about reining in Wall Street. There is a perfect storm opportunity beckoning just now:

SEC Rocked By Lurid Sex-and-Corruption Lawsuit

In a salacious 77-page complaint that reads like Penthouse Forum meets The Insider meets the Keystone Kops, one David Weber, the former chief investigator for the SEC Inspector General's office, accuses the SEC of retaliating against Weber for coming forward as a whistleblower. According to this lawsuit, Weber was made a target of intramural intrigues at the agency (which has a history of such retaliation) after he came forward with concerns that his bosses may have been spending more time copulating than they were investigating the SEC.

Weber vs. the SEC: The Full Complaint

Weber claims that in recent years, while the SEC Inspector General's office has been attempting to investigate the agency's seemingly-negligent responses in such matters as the Bernie Madoff case and the less-well-known (but nearly as disturbing) Stanford Financial Ponzi scandal, two of the IG office's senior officials - former Inspector General David Kotz and his successor, Noelle Maloney - were sleeping together.

Weber also claims that Kotz was also having an affair with a lawyer representing a key group of Stanford victims, a Dr. Gaytri Kachroo. Where the story gets really strange is where Weber claims that Maloney last year refused to meet with Kachroo as part of the Stanford investigation. By then, Kotz had stepped down as SEC IG and Maloney had replaced him as Acting IG. The complaint describes Weber confronting Maloney over the issue, asking why she wouldn't meet with the lawyer representing a key group of Stanford victims.

Simon Johnson noted that this is an excellent opportunity to put someone, (Neil Barofskyky), who believes in regulation in charge of the SEC. AS IF. Let us see if DOJ manages to avoid prosecutions here and if more of the usual suspects are appointed to clean up whitewash the situation at the SEC.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 02:22:45 PM EST
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just-put-in-on-holder will deal with it as expeditiously as expedience allows.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 20th, 2012 at 03:45:17 PM EST
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Thanks for post! :-) Let me reply to post below your comments.

santiago said:
"Whatever people might think of the matter in the EU, I really don't run across anyone in the US that considers Gen. Patreaus' affair to be a betrayal of anything other than his personal, family allegiances -- a common sinner, nothing more. So the connection between the Patraeus affair, which is newsworthy, as it should be, for its salaciousness, and the wider critiques of the US that you have seems to be a bit strained at best."

The intelligence services use deception and betrayal as part of their trade craft. This is well known. However this same type of sophistry direct or indirect is likewise employed by American politicians with some regularity who are elected and some senior officials who are appointed. As such it becomes part of an accepted modus operandi and ethos in the society at large, that our appointed and elected officials in America lie to us. We expect them to lie to us and deceive us. Therefore it is with particular note that perplexingly Americans recoil at the idea that Petraeus has betrayed the public trust and his wife, when in fact betrayal has become a national sport to reiterate among high appointed and elected officials in America. That is the accepted norm. The shock and outrage by the public must be seen as phony. It is part of a compact, an acceptable norm that has become the benchmark of the retrograde state which we find ourselves in.

This is particularly true when high appointed and elected officials are allowed to serve multiple terms, because they know there is no accountability. Sadly this now also extends to the private sector, the Wall St banksters were not held accountable either. No one went to jail. The opposite is true, they were rewarded with bonuses etc... to reinforce and incentivize their behavior for themselves and their predecessors. Clearly this affirms the low water mark which we have arrived at.

santiago said:
"I think either yours, or Der Spiegel's, timing may be just a bit off regarding your latest posts.  The US is proving to be the more progressive side of the Atlantic after all."

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I'm sorry to have read you seem to have missed the point of Der Spiegel article and my review of the same. When you have elections that are depoliticized, that is to say that no political issues substantially are being covered either by the campaigns or the press in all but the most forgettable sound bytes. When elections are bought by private capital, primarily financial capital, then the power of the nation state and the power of one person one vote has been substantially compromised, in a way that is not comparable to the European Union.

Therefore your analogy that America is the more progressive side of the Atlantic is a failed postulate. Clearly as the United States is the only major industrialized country in the world that does not have job protected paid maternity leave by right of law. The only major industrialized country in the world that doesn't have universal medical access. Even though the United States has only 4% of the world's population it has 25% of the world's incarceration rate. Wherein a third of all homes are underwater, and where the police kill more people annually than criminals kill in Germany. I think the Spiegel's perspective ought best not be dismissed by fair minded people in favor of American propaganda asserting it is on the more progressive side of the Atlantic.

sig...You just ran into a hardcore progressive who's just another working stiff with an MBA degree & therefore a vociferous labor union supporter [smile]

by Democrats Ramshield on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 06:33:21 AM EST
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The only major industrialized country in the world that doesn't have universal medical access.

Greece is, I suppose, not major or not industrialized. Or by universal do you mean "universal for people with jobs"?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 06:38:17 AM EST
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My points was that no one is the US is "outraged" by Patreaus. No one feels betrayed by him.  Amused? Yes. Outraged? No. It's portrayed as comedy in the US media, not tragedy, so there is no connection between Patreaus and the rest of you critiques of America.

Furthermore, as I said, the elections in the US were NOT de-politicized at all this year.  Austerity policies were front and center, made so by the selection of Paul Ryan as the GOP's VP candidate. And the US electorate rejected austerity, explicitly. It's like Der Spiegel wasn't even watching the election at all but wrote the story to fit their own narrative.  

Are there many reasons to be critical of the US?  Yes.  But you have to tie the criticism to actual current events instead of a pre-written narrative of events that turns out not to have occurred.

by santiago on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 08:21:34 AM EST
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 Well on the first issue you raise,
(My points was that no one is the US is "outraged" by Patreaus.)in the context in which you've framed it, it appears in a close reading of your limited remarks, that you're citing a personal belief. Logically some people feel that Patraeus by having such an affair could have been theoretically subject to blackmail. As such a potential event in theory could harm the national security of the United States and allies, as well as other concerns. As such some people have rightly or wrongly felt a betrayal of the public trust put in such a high ranking official.  

 As a personal belief system logically is subjective. Even a limited polemic engagement  objectively really isn't possible. Clearly as you are entitled to believe whatever you would choose, and I think in the spirit of intellectual freedom we always want to foster respecting the beliefs of others, particularly when as in your case they add value to our discussion.

With regard to the fact you've taken issue with my article, where you state that the elections were not depoliticized, this certainly is an objective issue which may in the course of a thoughtful polemic be challenged substantially. In the quote below Professor Noam Chomsky does precisely that in quite an erudite fashion. Therefore I will simply let the quote speak for itself, and attendant upon the same ask readers to give Prof Chomsky's remarks a close reading, from which they may draw their own conclusions. To that end I hope that you and the other readers here will extend yourself and post again. Thank you.  

Noam Chomsky: Rebel Without A Pause

What should we understand about the electoral process?

"If you look at the last election, roughly 10% of the voters said they were voting on issues, agendas, platforms and ideas of the candidate. Most of the people are voting, if they're voting at all, on imagery. The electoral campaigns we know are run by the public relations industry. Both parties hand them over to the PR firms, who sell candidates the same way that they sell toothpaste and lifestyle drugs.

When you turn on the television and you watch an ad, you don't expect the ad to be giving you information. The ad is trying to deceive you. Is that a secret? They'll tell you it involves rational choices by informed consumers. But is that what business is spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year for on advertising? No. They're trying to project imagery, which will delude you into accepting this commodity rather than some equivalent one, or buying something you don't want or don't need.

When they sell candidates, it's the same thing. They don't give information about their policies. They try to project the imagery. And that's what people are supposed to vote on. Most people, when asked about what the candidates stand for, were wrong about it. Not because they're stupid, but because it's just almost impossible to figure out. It's a conscious process of trying to depoliticize the country, marginalize the population and make sure that the popular concerns about issues don't enter the political system. This serves the interest of the rich and the powerful."

http://www.larryflynt.com/notebook.php?id=107

sig...You just ran into a hardcore progressive who's just another working stiff with an MBA degree & therefore a vociferous labor union supporter [smile]

by Democrats Ramshield on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:24:41 PM EST
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I would give more than a 4, if I could, just for citing Noam Chomsky through the unexpected medium of an interview by Hustler Magazine and its publisher, Larry Flint.  Brilliant, and on so many levels!
by santiago on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 07:36:38 PM EST
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Thanks for the support.

sig...You just ran into a hardcore progressive who's just another working stiff with an MBA degree & therefore a vociferous labor union supporter [smile]
by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Nov 22nd, 2012 at 12:48:32 PM EST
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Thanks for the commondreams link.

Wasn't expecting to see these four together: "Namibia, Zimbabwe, Denmark, and Switzerland." Might need to look that up.

As Taibbi noted, why isn't Wall Street in jail.


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:01:33 PM EST
Number 6:
Wasn't expecting to see these four together: "Namibia, Zimbabwe, Denmark, and Switzerland." Might need to look that up.

Hm, yes, looks suspicious. And no link.

Some time ago I saw some OECD stats on wealth quoted about the differences between Sweden and Finland. Checking the report the quoted numbers was in it, but checking the stated sources (reports by Swedish and Finnish statistics agencies) it was incomprehensible how OECD had got the numbers (unless somebody was typing while drunk).

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Wed Nov 21st, 2012 at 12:37:51 PM EST
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