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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 29 November

by dvx Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:01:47 PM EST

 A Daily Review Of International Online Media 


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1803 - birth of Gottfried Semper, German architect (d. 1879)

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The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:20:28 PM EST
Nuclear lobbyists wined and dined senior civil servants, documents show | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Senior civil servants responsible for ensuring the building of the UK's new fleet of nuclear power stations have been extensively wined and dined by nuclear industry lobbyists, documents released under freedom of information reveal.

A hospitality register (.zip) released by the Department of Energy and Climate Change (Decc) show that the three most senior officials at the Office for Nuclear Development (OND) have received hospitality from nuclear industry representatives on dozens of occasions since the office's formation in September 2009. Many of the meetings have taken place at some of London's most luxurious restaurants, hotels and private members' clubs.

Mark Higson, the OND's chief executive, received his first hospitality in the role just a few weeks after the office's creation with a dinner at the Lancaster hotel in Kensington hosted by Westinghouse, the US nuclear plant construction company, and the Nuclear Industry Association. In the intervening period up to last month, Higson and his colleagues Hergen Haye and Stephen de Souza separately accepted hospitality from a range of companies with a vested interest in the nuclear industry, including Babcock, EDF, Areva, and GE Hitachi, as well as a range of industry consultants and trade associations.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:47:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm SHOCKED, I tell you, SHOCKED

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:33:23 AM EST
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Russia's opposition seeks to strengthen position | Europe | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

Russia's opposition has announced renewed mass protests for December. Moscow stands ready to counter the demonstrations no matter what it takes - almost as if the Russian state feared its citizens.

It is a race for power. Who calls the shots in Russia, the so-called Siloviki structures - that is the military, police and intelligence services - or is it the opposition? The battle is not quite fair: on one side there is the power of the state under President Vladimir Putin; on the other there is a splintered protest movement.

Striving for better coordination and a single voice, the opposition has elected a Coordination Council via the Internet.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:47:13 PM EST
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Poverty and wealth report slammed for deletions | News | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

Germany's government has rejected charges that its report on poverty and wealth falsifies signs of societal disintegration. This follows newspaper claims Wednesday that critical passages were removed during editing.

Steffen Seibert, the spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition of her conservatives and the pro-business liberals, said joint formulation of text within government circles was a "normal procedure." The text was "realistic," he said.

A spokeswoman for Germany's social ministry said the document - published every four years - was a draft. Feedback from welfare groups would be inserted.

Passages missing

Two major newspapers, the Süddeutsche Zeitung and the Mitteldeutsche Zeitung, said a November 21 draft of the report lacked passages seen in an initial version released two months ago by officials of Social Minister Ursula von der Leyen, a member of Merkel's Christian Democrats.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:47:22 PM EST
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DW got the story right for once, here's what was left out:


One deleted passage had said: "While wage trends in the upper segment grew positively, low wages sunk in real terms over the past 10 years." Another removed remark had said "private assets in Germany are distributed very unevenly."
The authors had originally warned that current income trends "hurt society's expectations of equality and endanger social cohesion."
Another deletion was a recommendation that the federal government revise income tax tables so that private wealth "be used more to sustain public services."

Left Party chairman Bernd Riexinger on Wednesday accused the pro-business liberal Free Democrats Party (FDP) of having the report "watered down."
"This clientele-based party is conducting politics against the majority [of society]," said Riexinger.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:07:05 AM EST
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Underemployment affects 1 in 10 workers, ONS says | Money | guardian.co.uk

The recession has forced an extra 1 million people into working fewer hours than they want, with a quarter of those in part-time roles saying they want to work longer each week, official figures show.

The unemployment rate has remained low compared with previous recessions, but figures on underemployment from the Office for National Statistics indicate this is a result of people taking on more part-time roles.

The number of underemployed workers remained flat in the years before the recession, but between 2008 and 2012 it rocketed from 2.07 million to 3.05 million, with almost two-thirds in part-time jobs, figures based on the ONS's annual Labour Force Survey showed.

During this period, many workers moved from full-time to part-time roles, and many of those returning to work after a period of unemployment could only find part-time jobs.

In 2012, 24% of part-time workers wanted to work more hours, compared with just 5.5% of full-time workers, meaning part-time workers were more than four times more likely to be underemployed than those in full-time posts. In total, one in 10 workers are currently underemployed.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:47:34 PM EST
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German cabinet adopts troop reduction in Afghanistan | News | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

Germany's cabinet has cemented plans to reduce Bundeswehr troop numbers in Afghanistan by the beginning of 2014 in line with NATO plans.

The troop reduction agreed to by German Chancellor Angela Merkel's cabinet on Wednesday would be implemented over 13 months starting in January.

By February, 2014, the number of German troops in Afghanistan is to be reduced to a maximum of 3,300.

The current ceiling is 4,900, with about 4,600 German troops actually serving. 0:00:00|0:00:00 Germany to cut troop numbers in Afghanistan

The cabinet's plan is still subject to federal parliamentary approval in Berlin.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:47:48 PM EST
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Prime minister set to reject PCC press regulation proposals | Media | guardian.co.uk

The government appears set to reject the proposals from the Press Complaints Commission for self-regulation of the newspaper industry and will open the door to a form of regulation that is more independent of the industry.

The issue of whether there should be state underpinning remains unresolved, and there are suggestions from some MPs that Lord Justice Leveson may provide the government with a menu of options when his report is published on Thursday. Leveson was commissioned to examine press standards in the wake of the phone-hacking scandal.

David Cameron in the Commons called on Wednesday for all-party talks on the response to Leveson, but the prime minister's spokesman did not suggest there would be any discussions between the government and the Labour leader Ed Miliband ahead of a Commons statement on Thursday lunchtime.

All the party leaders were in receipt of the report at lunchtime and there will be a meeting of the coalition committee. Six copies were sent to No 10, and Cameron will start reading the report later in the afternoon.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:48:05 PM EST
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Maybe the press could regulate the police and vice versa?
Surely couldn't be worse that each regulating itself?


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:09:59 AM EST
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When even resident softy Clegg has already said he prefers a vibrant, active press to the toothless (presumably Continental) alternative, you know how those debates are going to end.


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:11:41 AM EST
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Sorry, third reply to the same thing:
They are actually telling us when the PM will start reading this? Is that a subtle comment on his literacy?


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:12:58 AM EST
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Dream of 'greater Albania' alive at centennial | Europe | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

On this day in 1912, Albania became the last Balkan country to gain independence from the Ottoman Empire. But Albanians in Kosovo were left outside the new state, giving rise to the dream of a united Albanian nation.

The dream of unifying Kosovo and Albania has gained new vigor since the smaller country declared independence in February 2008. The nationalist movement "Vetëvendosja" ("Self-determination") is the third-greatest force in the Kosovan parliament.

"The national union of Kosovo and Albania is an indisputable right of the Albanian people, who were unjustly divided by history," argued Glauk Konufca, one of Vetëvendosja's political leaders. His party wants a referendum on unification - but its proposals to the parliament have so far remained unsuccessful.

And the Vetëvendosja movement is not alone. In Albania, the "Aleanca Kuq e Zi" (Red-Black Alliance) was founded in the summer of 2012 with a similar platform. At the same time, there are nationalist movements and groupings in other regions where Albanians have settled, such as Macedonia, Montenegro, and parts of southern Serbia. These groups consider the flag with the double-headed black eagle on a red background as their national flag, and would like to become part of Albania sooner rather than later.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:48:24 PM EST
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Russian mafia whistleblower found dead in UK - Europe - Al Jazeera English

A Russian businessman helping Swiss prosecutors uncover a powerful Russian fraud syndicate has died in mysterious circumstances outside his mansion in Britain.

Alexander Perepilichnyy had collapsed on a road early on the evening of 10 November, in the county of Surrey, southern England, in a chilling twist to a Russian mafia scandal that has strained Moscow's ties with the West.

Perepilichnyy, 44, sought refuge in Britain three years ago and had been helping a Swiss investigation into a Russian money-laundering scheme by providing evidence against corrupt officials, his colleagues and media reports said.

Reports have connected Perepilichnyy to a scandal involving Sergei Magnitsky, a lawyer for London-based Hermitage Capital Management, who died in a Moscow prison three years ago after allegedly uncovering a web of corruption involving Russian tax officials.

Magnitsky had uncovered the alleged theft by Russian tax officials of more than $200m.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:10:09 PM EST
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Well, blow me down. We encourage a whole load of extremely dodgy russian plutocrat crime lords to hide their money away in UK tax havens whilst living high on the hog in the swankiest houses and eat in the finest restaurants in the West End and then we act surprised when they import their feuds as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:42:16 AM EST
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I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 05:14:38 PM EST
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Eurointelligence Daily Morning Newsbriefing: The quandary of Angela Merkel's ever so loyal opposition (29.11.2012)
SPD MPs revolt against party leadership's mechanistic support for everything Angela Merkel does;  news reports quote party members as saying that a vote on Tuesday would have led to a No vote, but opinon in the party is now more balances; the Bundestag is likely to pass the package in any case since the Greens will vote in favour; Wolfgang Schauble says the Greek package will only cost the German taxpayer €600m in 2013, and €530m in 2014; according to one news report, NCBs will deduct cost of sterlisation policies from profits on Greek bonds before passing on the net profits to governments; Mario Draghi says the ECB is ready to supervise all 6000 banks from 2014 onwards; says the timetable is ambitious, but doable; the European Commission proposes a mostly lacklustre masterplan for the future of the eurozone, in which it plays the central role of the treasury; the Greek finance minister says Greece could borrow up to €14bn to fund the bond repurchasing scheme; ominously speaks of a Plan B if the scheme does not work out; NCBs might roll over their Greek debt holding to reduce future financing needs; French unemployment reaches new records; the French Senate rejected the 2013 budget; Francois Fillon is now considering to form a break-away party; the Irish central bank says financial sector still weak and vulnerable to shocks; Spanish retail sales show steepest fall on record; Spain breaches 6 out of 11 indicators in Eurostat's Macroeconomic Imbalances Procedure; a referendum in Catolania is becoming more distant, and possibly even less likely; Confidustria says the Italian economy slumps this autumn; capital flight out of Italy showed the third largest drop since the beginning of the eurozone in October; Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena, the world's oldest bank, is asking the government for a bail-out; Matteo Renzi has done well at the last TV debate with his opponent Pierluigi Bersani, but Bersani is still most likely to win the run-off for the PD leadership; Allessandro Leipold says eurozone ministers should accept the inevitability of OSI; the Bundesbank says many companies have fallen behind schedule in their preparation for SEPA; Paul Krugman says statistics may be the cause behind Italy's productivity riddle; Patrick Welter, meanwhile, recalls Bolivia's experience with a bond repurchase programme, and says the evidence is not encouraging.


I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:44:32 AM EST
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Mario Draghi says ECB ready to supervise all 6000 banks from 2014

This is probably the most important issue (for now) in the debate on banking union: Mario Draghi says he needs to supervise all 6000 banks directly from January 1, 2014. FT Deutschland reports that timetable was ambitious, but doable. To achieve this deadline, the EU needs to take a formal decision by December, he writes in a legal opinion, to give the ECB time to build up the infrastructure for the SSM. For the transitional period from 2013, the ECB wants access to all data from national supervisor, and wants to be able to subject banks to stress tests.

(Draghi wants to counter the German criticism that the ECB would be overwhelmed supervising all banks. He seems to be putting his foot down on the issue of non-separation of bank supervision, while for the moment he has given on resolution and deposit insurance.)



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:55:24 AM EST
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Given European history I have to say "sterilisation" is not a great choice of words.

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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:19:36 AM EST
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Brussels Blog: New Greek bailout: the leaked chart (November 28, 2012)
In reporting our story, we relied heavily on a leaked chart that we got our hands on (which we've linked to here) that lays out in great detail the assumptions built into the new programme. A quick review of the chart comes after the jump...

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Column one of the chart shows where they're getting that money for the next two years. The most interesting line is the fact that by far the biggest source of money is from allowing Greece to raise €9bn on the short-term debt market.

This could prove controversial, since the main way Greece issues such treasury bills is by selling them to Greek banks. Those Greek banks buy the bonds with money from the eurosystem, essentially meaning the ECB is financing the purchase of Greek T-bills. That's a controversial issue in Germany, where many view this as the central bank lending money directly to Athens- a process called "monetary financing" that's a no-no under EU treaties.




I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 06:24:07 AM EST
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 ECONOMY & FINANCE 


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:20:50 PM EST
EU approves troubled Spanish banks' restructuring | Business | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

The European Union executive branch has endorsed the restructuring schemes of four Spanish banks waiting for the release of bailout funds. But Banco de Valencia has to be sold immediately for a symbolic price.

The European Commission on Wednesday approved restructuring schemes for four of Spain's most troubled banks. Brussels' decision was seen as a final step for the lenders to qualify for bailout money from the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), the continent's permanent rescue fund.

"Our objective is to restore the viability of banks receiving aid so that they're able to function without public support in the future," EU Competition Commissioner Joaquin Almunia said in a statement. "Restoring a healthier financial sector is indispensable for economic recovery in Spain."

The Commission threw its weight behind the restructuring plans for BFA/Bankia, NCG Banco, Catalunya Banc and Banco de Valencia.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:57:57 PM EST
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Auditors publish findings about Kabul Bank fraud | Business | DW.DE | 28.11.2012

An independent anti-corruption committee has said the near-collapse of Afghanistan's Kabul Bank in 2010 was the result of weak regulatory oversight. But it also speaks of inappropriate political interference.

Complex scheming by authorities and shareholders almost caused the collapse of Afghanistan's Kabul Bank, independent auditors maintained on Wednesday while presenting the findings collected during their work on the Anti-Corruption Monitoring and Evaluation Committee (MEC).

Investigators included three Afghans and three foreigners whose work was funded by independent foreign institutions.

"The bank was effectively running a scheme where clients thought their money was being invested when in fact it was siphoned off illicitly," MEC Co-Chairman Drago Kos told reporters in explaining the $900-million (697-million-euro) losses the bank had incurred in the wake of massive fraud.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:58:05 PM EST
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BBC News - BP faces temporary ban from new US contracts

BP has been temporarily suspended from new contracts with the US government, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has said.

While it is unclear how long the ban will last, it follows BP's record fine earlier this month over the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The EPA said it was taking action due to BP's "lack of business integrity" over its handling of the blowout.

But BP said it had spent $14bn (£8.8bn) on its response to the spill.

"The BP suspension will temporarily prevent the company and the named affiliates from getting new federal government contracts, grants or other covered transactions until the company can provide sufficient evidence to EPA demonstrating that it meets federal business standards," said the EPA in a statement.

"Suspensions are a standard practice when a responsibility question is raised by action in a criminal case."



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:58:11 PM EST
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it is unclear how long the ban will last

Hmmm, how much money is in that envelope ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:47:35 AM EST
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Why is this happening now?
There are no elections for two years.


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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:28:40 AM EST
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Dollar Declines as Lawmakers Express Optimism on Cliff - Bloomberg

The Dollar Index (SPX) fell for the first time in three days as comments from U.S. lawmakers fueled optimism the so-called fiscal cliff will be avoided.

The yen rose to a one-week high against the dollar as technical indicators signaled its recent decline may have been excessive. The euro pared losses against the greenback as stocks rebounded and amid speculation investors will accept Greece repurchasing its own bonds at below market prices. Brazil's real fell against all its major counterparts on speculation the central bank will keep interest rates at record lows.

"The concern about the fiscal cliff is alive and well, but I think it's too early to be overly worried," said Charles St- Arnaud, a foreign-exchange strategist at Nomura Holdings Inc. in New York. "We've had a very good run in the dollar-yen over the past few weeks -- we went all the way from 78 to 82 -- so you can expect some type of profit-taking."

The Dollar Index fell 0.1 percent to 80.316 at 1:29 p.m. New York time. The gauge tracks the U.S. currency against those of six major trading partners.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:59:40 PM EST
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Turkish Air Seeks 100 Narrow-Body Jets After Ditching Jumbos - Bloomberg

Turkish Airlines (THYAO) said it's close to ordering 100 planes to provide short-haul links from Istanbul while scrapping plans to buy the biggest jumbo jets in favor of more modestly sized wide-body planes.

A single-aisle deal may be sealed this year or early next, Chief Executive Officer Temel Kotil said in an interview, adding that "all possibilities" are being considered. Airbus SAS (EAD) and Boeing Co. (BA) offer the A320 and 737, to be upgraded from 2015 and 2017, while Bombardier Inc. (BBD/B) is developing the CSeries model.

Turkish Airlines aims to expand its fleet to 350 planes by 2020 from 201 as Europe's fifth-biggest carrier builds Istanbul into a hub for inter-continental flights. The company has backed off from an order for the Airbus A380 superjumbo or Boeing 747-8 after deciding more regular flights with the suppliers' 777 and A330 wide-bodies are a better strategic fit, Kotil said today.

"Our biggest problem is the capacity and the frequency," the CEO said. "We want to go to higher frequencies. The 777 is big enough." Possible plans include switching daily services to cities including Chicago and Hong Kong to double-daily, he said.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:00:32 PM EST
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China Mafia-Style Hack Attack Drives California Firm to Brink - Bloomberg
China Mafia-Style Hack Attack Drives California Firm to Brink By Michael Riley - 2012-11-27T23:01:00Z

During his civil lawsuit against the People's Republic of China, Brian Milburn says he never once saw one of the country's lawyers. He read no court documents from China's attorneys because they filed none. The voluminous case record at the U.S. District courthouse in Santa Ana contains a single communication from China: a curt letter to the U.S. State Department, urging that the suit be dismissed.

That doesn't mean Milburn's adversary had no contact with him.

For three years, a group of hackers from China waged a relentless campaign of cyber harassment against Solid Oak Software Inc., Milburn's family-owned, eight-person firm in Santa Barbara, California. The attack began less than two weeks after Milburn publicly accused China of appropriating his company's parental filtering software, CYBERsitter, for a national Internet censoring project. And it ended shortly after he settled a $2.2 billion lawsuit against the Chinese government and a string of computer companies last April.

In between, the hackers assailed Solid Oak's computer systems, shutting down web and e-mail servers, spying on an employee with her webcam, and gaining access to sensitive files in a battle that caused company revenues to tumble and brought it within a hair's breadth of collapse.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:00:50 PM EST
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Ministers promise measures to cap payday loans | Money | guardian.co.uk

In a major climbdown, the government has promised to table measures that will put a cap on payday loans and give powers to the new Financial Conduct Authority powers to act against rogue lenders.

The move came in backstage talks in the Lords as ministers faced defeat on a cross-party amendment backed by Lord Mitchell, the Archbishop of Canterbury elect, Baroness Howe and Baroness Grey-Thompson.

In talks over Wednesday lunchtime, the government has promised to come up with a version of the amendment tabled by the quartet when the financial services bill returns for its third reading next week. In a sign of goodwill, the government has promised that it will give the quartet an effective veto over the amendment it tables.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:09:56 PM EST
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Aww, man!
How will the Toon be able to prostitute itself find a sponsor now?

(It's increasingly sad that the "undemocratic" House of Lords is much more interested in the good of the general public than the Commons.)


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:33:54 AM EST
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I do not think that "undemocratic" means what you think it means.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:59:34 AM EST
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True.
"Democratic" means "vote yourself rich" these days, so perhaps alternatives are in order.


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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:06:22 AM EST
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That's fine, but the government also needs to realise that payday loans with extortionate interest reflect the existence of a large population of working poor who are being crushed by economic conditions.

Making the payday loans illegal will only push the working poor into the hands of explicitly illegal lending unless it's accompanied by measures to enable the working poor to access credit or, even better, to access better wages and benefits.

There are many people in the UK outside the banking system, with no access to credit, with difficulties to access the residential rental market, and who as a result of their marginal position in the credit system have to "pay as you go" or "pre-pay" their utilities (gas, electricity, water) at higher rates than those who have bank accounts.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:43:27 AM EST
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Wall Street Professionals Admit: Yes, Lots of Us Are Corrupt - DailyFinance
Is Wall Street corrupt? Responses vary depending on whom you ask. But ask the folks who work in the financial services industry and you'll get a surprisingly clear answer: "Yes."

A recent survey of 500 financial services professionals, conducted by market researcher Populus at the behest of law firm Labaton Sucharow, turned up some surprisingly candid results from the folks surveyed. For example:
  • 39% of financial industry insiders surveyed "reported that their competitors are likely to have engaged in illegal or unethical activity in order to be successful."
  • And this was more than just suspicion. "26% of respondents indicated that they had observed or had firsthand knowledge of wrongdoing in the workplace."
  • Nearly one in four "believed that financial services professionals may need to engage in unethical or illegal conduct in order to be successful.
  • Nearly one in three said they themselves felt "pressured by bonus or compensation plans to violate the law or engage in unethical conduct.


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:22:57 PM EST
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Bill Mitchell: Differences on the Eurozone periphery (Thursday, November 29, 2012)
Usually, the losses in the downturn given way to a return to previously held working conditions when the economy returns to growth. So while the losses in the downturn in the form of unemployment and the accompanying lost income are permanent, the workers get back on track once employment growth resumes.

However, the imposition of fiscal austerity in many nations in the current crisis will ensure not only that the current losses are enormous but that the working conditions previously enjoyed will be lost forever. Years (decades) of hard-won gains by the workers are evaporating in the cause of austerity.

There is no surprise. The neo-liberals have used the prolonged crisis to re-assert their program of wealth and income transference to the elites and to put the last nail in the welfare state coffin. That is their agenda and all the financial gobbledegook - about impending insolvency and bond market revolts - is just a smokescreen for their more venal ambitions.

Cannot be said loudly enough.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:20:37 AM EST
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 WORLD 


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:27:22 PM EST
Palestinians to renew UN statehood bid - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

The Palestinians will renew a bid to upgrade their status at the United Nations, a move which could strengthen their statehood claims after talks with Israel stalled.

Palestinians are listed as a UN observer "entity" with no voting rights. They will ask to be made a non-member observer state at the UN General Assembly on Thursday.

"It is only with negotiations between the two sides that we demand immediately without any preconditions that a Palestinian state can become a reality"

- Laurent Fabius,
French foreign minister  

Such status would be an indirect recognition of their claims on statehood in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza Strip. It would allow them to join a number of UN agencies, as well as the International Criminal Court (ICC).

The Palestinians say Israeli settlement-building on occupied West Bank land has stymied prospects for a bilateral statehood deal. Disagreement over the issue led to negotiations stalling in 2010.

Hanan Ashrawi, a Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) executive committee member, described the bid as a "last-ditch effort".



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:08:07 PM EST
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UK needs Palestinian assurances before backing UN statehood vote, says Hague | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Britain is ready to back calls at the United Nations for recognition of a Palestinian state if the Palestinians give a commitment to an immediate and unconditional return to the negotiating table with Israel, William Hague has said.

In a statement to the House of Commons, the foreign secretary said he would also be seeking an assurance that the Palestinians would not seek to extend the jurisdiction of the international criminal court over the occupied territories, before deciding which way to vote in Thursday's debate at the UN general assembly.

"Up until the time of the vote itself, we will remain open to voting in favour of the resolution if we see public assurances by the Palestinians on these points. However, in the absence of these assurances, the United Kingdom would abstain on the vote," he said.

On Tuesday France announced it was ready to support a resolution to upgrade the Palestinians' status at the UN from observer to non-member observer state.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:09:33 PM EST
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Rebels begin withdrawal in eastern DR Congo - Africa - Al Jazeera English

Rebels in eastern DR Congo say they have started withdrawing from territory they have captured from government troops, days after a pullout deal was reached in neighbouring Uganda.

Amani Kabashi, deputy spokesman for the M23 group, told Al Jazeera that rebels were starting to withdraw from the town of Mushake, 50km south of the provincial capital, Goma, on Wednesday.

Diplomatic efforts to end violence in eastern Congo have been ongoing since the M23 group captured Goma in fighting with Congolese troops and advanced across the east of the country last week. Tens of thousands of people have been displaced by fighting between government troops and the rebels.

Colonel Vianney Kazarama, the M23 military spokesman, later said rebels were to withdraw from the city of Sake on Thursday and Goma on Friday.

Herve Ladsous, the UN peacekeeping chief, told reporters on Tuesday night that rebels' advances had stopped.

Al Jazeera's Nazanine Moshiri, reporting from Goma, said there were no indications of a withdrawal from the city on Wednesday.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:10:32 PM EST
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Egypt to vote on draft constitution - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

A divisive panel boycotted by liberals and Christians was set to rush out a draft new Egyptian constitution as protests mounted over the political future nearly two years after Hosni Mubarak's overthrow.

President Mohamed Morsi had just last week given the constituent assembly an additional two months until February to complete its work.

But as protests mounted over his decision to grant himself sweeping powers until the text is ratified in a referendum, the panel wrapped up its deliberations on Wednesday and readied for a vote on Thursday.

"The discussions over the draft of the constitution will be finished today, to be followed by voting," Ahmed Darrag, the panel chief, said in remarks carried by the official MENA news agency.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:10:42 PM EST
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Bradley Manning: marine commander warned detention was inappropriate | World news | guardian.co.uk

The former commander of Quantico marine base in Virginia has revealed to the court martial of Bradley Manning that he warned his Pentagon superiors that the jail on the base was insufficiently prepared to deal with the long-term detention of the WikiLeaks suspect.

Daniel Choike told a pre-trial hearing in Fort Meade, Maryland, that when Manning arrived at the brig on 29 July 2010, having been arrested in Iraq on suspicion of being the source of the massive WikiLeaks dump of state secrets, he informed his superior officer in the Pentagon that in his opinion Quantico was not the right place for the soldier should his detention last long.

"I didn't feel that PFC Manning should be detained more than 90 days in the brig," he said.

In the end, Manning spent nine months at Quantico - three times the maximum Choike thought appropriate. The soldier's treatment there prompted international protests from the UN, Amnesty International and other organisations that likened it to torture.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:12:03 PM EST
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DIY graphic design | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

The image released to the Associated Press shows two curves: one that plots the energy versus time, and another that plots the power output versus time, presumably from a fission device. But these two curves do not correspond: If the energy curve is correct, then the peak power should be much lower -- around 300 million ( 3x108) kt per second, instead of the currently stated 17 trillion (1.7 x1013) kt per second. As is, the diagram features a nearly million-fold error.

This diagram does nothing more than indicate either slipshod analysis or an amateurish hoax.

by Katrin on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 06:07:36 PM EST
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 LIVING OFF THE PLANET 
 Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food 


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:27:39 PM EST
Amazon deforestation hits record low | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Deforestation in Brazil's Amazon rainforest has dropped to its lowest level in 24 years, the government said on Tuesday.

Satellite imagery showed that 1,798 square miles (4,656 square kilometres) of the Amazon were deforested between August 2011 and July 2012, environment minister, Izabella Teixeira said, 27% less than the 2,478 sq miles (6,418 sq km) deforested a year earlier.

Brazil's National Institute for Space Research said the deforestation level is the lowest since it started measuring the destruction of the rainforest in 1988.

Sixty-three percent of the rainforest's 2.4m sq miles (6.1m sq km) are in Brazil.

The space institute said that the latest figures show that Brazil is close to its 2020 target of reducing deforestation by 80% from 1990 levels. Up to July 2012, deforestation dropped by 76%.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:09:40 PM EST
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The West no longer able to afford to buy teak?
Any less cynical suggestions?


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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:37:50 AM EST
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Sea levels rising faster than IPCC projections

ScienceDaily (Nov. 27, 2012) -- Sea levels are rising 60 per cent faster than the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) central projections, new research suggests.

While temperature rises appear to be consistent with the projections made in the IPCC's fourth assessment report (AR4), satellite measurements show that sea levels are actually rising at a rate of 3.2 mm a year compared to the best estimate of 2 mm a year in the report.

The researchers, from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Tempo Analytics and Laboratoire d'Etudes en Géophysique et Océanographie Spatiales, believe that findings such as these are important for keeping track of how well past projections match the accumulating observational data, especially as projections made by the IPCC are increasingly being used in decision making.

The study, which has been published November 28, in IOP Publishing's journal Environmental Research Letters, involved an analysis of global temperatures and sea-level data over the past two decades, comparing them both to projections made in the IPCC's third and fourth assessment reports.

Results were obtained by taking averages from the five available global land and ocean temperature series.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:17:15 PM EST
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First evidence of ocean acidification affecting live marine creatures in the Southern Ocean

ScienceDaily (Nov. 25, 2012) -- The shells of marine snails -- known as pteropods -- living in the seas around Antarctica are being dissolved by ocean acidification according to a new study published this week in the journal Nature Geoscience. These tiny animals are a valuable food source for fish and birds and play an important role in the oceanic carbon cycle.

During a science cruise in 2008, researchers from British Antarctic Survey (BAS) and the University of East Anglia (UEA), in collaboration with colleagues from the US Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), discovered severe dissolution of the shells of living pteropods in Southern Ocean waters.

The team examined an area of upwelling, where winds cause cold water to be pushed upwards from the deep to the surface of the ocean. Upwelled water is usually more corrosive to a particular type of calcium carbonate (aragonite) that pteropods use to build their shells. The team found that as a result of the additional influence of ocean acidification, this corrosive water severely dissolved the shells of pteropods.

Ocean acidification is caused by the uptake of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere emitted as a result of fossil fuel burning. A number of laboratory experiments have demonstrated the potential effect of ocean acidification on marine organisms. However, to date, there has been little evidence of such impacts occurring to live specimens in their natural environment. The finding supports predictions that the impact of ocean acidification on marine ecosystems and food webs may be significant.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:17:42 PM EST
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Thawing of permafrost expected to cause significant additional global warming, not yet accounted for in climate predictions

ScienceDaily (Nov. 27, 2012) -- Permafrost covering almost a quarter of the northern hemisphere contains 1,700 gigatonnes of carbon, twice that currently in the atmosphere, and could significantly amplify global warming should thawing accelerate as expected, according to a new report released November 27 by the UN Environment Programme (UNEP).

Warming permafrost can also radically change ecosystems and cause costly infrastructural damage due to increasingly unstable ground, the report says.

Policy Implications of Warming Permafrost seeks to highlight the potential hazards of carbon dioxide and methane emissions from warming permafrost, which have not thus far been included in climate-prediction modelling. The science on the potential impacts of warming permafrost has only begun to enter the mainstream in the last few years, and as a truly "emerging issue" could not have been included in climate change modelling to date.

The report recommends a special IPCC assessment on permafrost and the creation of national monitoring networks and adaptation plans as key steps to deal with potential impacts of this significant source of emissions, which may become a major factor in global warming.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:18:14 PM EST
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 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:27:57 PM EST
Biggest Black Hole Blast Ever Could Solve Cosmological Mystery: Scientific American

Astronomers have seen a distant galaxy that blasts away material with two trillion times the energy the sun emits--the biggest such eruption ever seen. That ejection of matter could answer an important question about the universe: why are the black holes in the centers of galaxies so light?

Computer models of the early universe usually produce a virtual cosmos that looks like ours except for one thing. The ratio of the mass of black holes in galaxy centers to the rest of the matter in galaxies is larger in the simulations than in the real universe.

Scientists think somehow galaxies are ridding themselves of much of the mass that would have ended up falling into their central black holes. However, until now researchers have been at a lack for an explanation of how this might happen.

To expel matter from galaxies takes energy. "We needed some input of energy from supermassive black holes," Nahum Arav, an astrophysicist at Virginia Tech told SPACE.com.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 02:18:32 PM EST
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Painkiller addiction: the plague that is sweeping the US

The same escalating use and abuse of powerful painkillers can be found in rich societies from the UK, across Europe to the antipodes. But the country that really knows all about prescription pill excess, and the human toll it claims, is the US. Americans make up less than 5% of the global population but consume 80% of the world's supply of opioid prescription pills. Sales of the drugs have increased more than fourfold in the past 10 years, grossing $11bn (£7bn) annually. To express that figure more personally, in 2010 enough of Geni's pills, or their brand-name equivalents, were handed out by doctors to medicate every American adult with a typical dose of hydro- codone, a pure opioid as powerful as morphine, every four hours for a month.


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 02:45:52 AM EST
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Survey: French wine consumption down to a glass a day

The survey, published this week, found that the number of people who drank wine on a daily basis had fallen to 17 percent in 2010, down from 21 percent five years earlier.

In the same period, the number of occasional drinkers, those who enjoy a glass once or twice a week, rose from 41 to 45 percent. The number of tee-totallers was stable at 38 percent.

The findings reflect a long-term trend that has seen France's average wine consumption fall from 160 litres per adult, per year in 1965 to 57 litres in 2010, roughly the equivalent of a drop from three glasses to one glass per person, per day.



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 02:49:35 AM EST
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regular wine drinkers + occassional + tee-totallers = 100%. No beer drinkers or whisky drinkers in France?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:31:42 AM EST
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In France most beer drinkers are in NE France. But the entire beer tradition was mostly wiped out in WWI.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:58:00 AM EST
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And at the same time (WWII), according to Melanchthon, Paris journalists 'sojourning' in Lyon discovered a cheap wine used mainly for gargling called Beaujolais.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:07:53 AM EST
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They must be counted as tea-totallers.
I sure can't imagine that 38% of French people never have a drop of alcohol. That really does not match my experience.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 03:58:52 AM EST
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don't drink wine. It's TEOTWAWKI, don't you know.

At a guess, that 38% might be composed of 25% of anything-but-wine-drinkers, heavily weighted to people under (hmm) 35, and maximum 10-15% actual non-drinkers.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:17:44 AM EST
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Fine by me, it will bring the price of my wine down.

But I get the impression that quite a lot of the young people who don't drink wine start doing so later in life. They may not be lifelong anything-but-wine at all.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 07:16:41 AM EST
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Why is everyone assuming "regular wine drinkers" are not regular drinkers of other stuff?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 06:05:24 AM EST
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According to Wiki, hydrocodone is simultaneously being looked at closedly by the FDA and the most prescribed drug in the US.

(Huh, didn't know about cold water extraction. Sounds like a "high tech" version of "filtered through burnt toast".)


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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 06:20:39 AM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:28:17 PM EST
2011 - death of George Harrison, English musician, actor, songwriter. (The Beatles) (b. 1943)



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Nov 28th, 2012 at 01:35:08 PM EST
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Secretary of State Candidate Has a Major Financial Stake in Canadian Tar Sands | OnEarth Magazine

Susan Rice, the candidate believed to be favored by President Obama to become the next Secretary of State, holds significant investments in more than a dozen Canadian oil companies and banks that would stand to benefit from expansion of the North American tar sands industry and construction of the proposed $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline. If confirmed by the Senate, one of Rice's first duties likely would be consideration, and potentially approval, of the controversial mega-project.

Rice's financial holdings could raise questions about her status as a neutral decision maker. The current U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Rice owns stock valued between $300,000 and $600,000 in TransCanada, the company seeking a federal permit to transport tar sands crude 1,700 miles to refineries on the Texas Gulf Coast, crossing fragile Midwest ecosystems and the largest freshwater aquifer in North America.

Beyond that, according to financial disclosure reports, about a third of Rice's personal net worth is tied up in oil producers, pipeline operators, and related energy industries north of the 49th parallel -- including companies with poor environmental and safety records on both U.S. and Canadian soil. Rice and her husband own at least $1.25 million worth of stock in four of Canada's eight leading oil producers, as ranked by Forbes magazine. That includes Enbridge, which spilled more than a million gallons of toxic bitumen into Michigan's Kalamazoo River in 2010 -- the largest inland oil spill in U.S. history.

uh-oh

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 04:02:31 AM EST
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(Spoiler warning - but everyone has been to high school,  surely?)

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:01:39 AM EST
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You have a weird idea of high school today.

A few years ago, I was speaking to an Italian on the standing room line at La Scala. We had both seen Maazel's 1984 the night before, but he had completely missed the point, thinking that Big Brother was a reference to the TV show ("Winston Smith gets expelled from the house?)...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:05:05 AM EST
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That is perhaps the greatest of the many misdeeds of that ... product? format?

I'd say this shows (as others have said repeatedly) that the current and future may be more "Brave New World" than "1984". Not sure what "the kids" would misunderstand that as.

Arguably understanding the overall gist of "1984" is more important than the exact meaning of "wherefore" in Shakespeare.

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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 05:14:58 AM EST
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do they still teach 'lord of the flies'? that was a good snapshot of the underbelly of british society, rang a bell with many.

the closest to aldous' soma may be FB!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 08:15:06 AM EST
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WHy would you want to teach it? It's a great read.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 08:57:33 AM EST
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i thought it over-rated as literature, but it had a raw power to it.

a bit like watching a horror flick...

it was modern, so read a lot easier than the 'classics'. they had us study 'animal farm' and '1984' too, huxley i found through 'eyeless in gaza' which was not great, but led to the much more interesting stuff of his like 'island', 'doors of perception' and 'the perennial philosophy' which was like a bible to me. a westerner's take on the vedas and upanishad.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 08:35:22 PM EST
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Isn't all about a load of kids being viciously horrible to each other as only kids can. I just thought it reminded me of my own school, I could put faces to the characters in the book.

the crying at the end didn't ring true tho'. the bully kids i knew would have been disappointed.

I never saw what it had to do with Britain except that the people portrayed happened to be british.

but then again, I'm pretty literal

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM EST
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Id without Superego. Children and teens without parents. Conservative nightmare of a liberal society.

Jurassic Park 2 (book only) - the "learned behaviour" aspect.
Also the indie RPG Puppetland.

Didn't see it as specifically British.


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by Number 6 on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 11:07:26 AM EST
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Helen:
I never saw what it had to do with Britain except that the people portrayed happened to be british.

it was very similar to the boarding schools i went to, no imaginative leap required!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 08:28:33 PM EST
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