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Obama wins clear victory: MSM calls for more Bipartisan Government

by Frank Schnittger Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 at 06:52:10 PM EST

When President Obama defeats Romney in a few days time, the MSM are going to have to engage in a major excuse management and damage limitation exercise, spinning the result as not really a win for Democratic values and arguing that Obama must now implement Republican policies. Here's a sample of what you can expect to hear:

  1. Obama won the most divisive campaign in history. It's time to heal the wounds and govern from the center.

  2. Obama only won because of Sandy. He doesn't have a mandate.

  3. Romney was a RINO candidate - the Republicans made a mistake in not nominating a real conservative.

  4. Obama must now lead and implement Simpson-Bowles (despite the fact that the party stressing debt reduction lost the election).

  5. Our pundits and pollsters only called the election wrong because there was a very late (and irrational) swing to the President

  6. Obama wins clear victory but must now be more bipartisan in his approach

  7. Obama has lost the trust of the white electorate and must now take urgent steps to win it back

  8. Minorities only voted for Obama because he is black. That's unAmerican.

  9. Women only voted for Obama because Romney is too old for them

  10. Young people only voted for Obama because they were misled and misinformed. Polls show only 5% of young people understand basic economics. (Note to Ed. we need to commission a Rasmussen poll on this quick).

  11. The less well off voted against Romney because they were envious of his success and want the Government to redistribute his wealth.

  12. It's all Chris Christie's fault for undercutting the standard narrative that Obama is incompetent and Government can't do anything right.

Please add your MSM excuses in the comments below. Be prepared!


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Even two years ago this was all predictable. Romney was gonna be the candidate and he would lose. Even here in Germany the journaille is chattering about how the race is "close" and to how to "prepare" for a Romney presidency. Get a grip!

13. The popular vote was very close. Therefore no clear 'mandate'. He needs to distribute olive branches to the "other half of Ameriki".

by epochepoque on Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 at 08:40:10 PM EST
... victory can't be real. The 'Pre-Delegitimization' Watch: It Begins. Double quote:
I, personally, absolutely believe [that the "Romney will win!" theme] is a de-legitimizing strategy...One can expect legal challenges if the vote is close. I think this push to portray Obama as having zero chance is laying the groundwork. At minimum it works to keep constituents of Republicans in Congress from tolerating any compromises in the event of an Obama re-election because they will have a reinforced sense of being robbed (which they have had about Mr. Kenya his whole presidency)....
by epochepoque on Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 at 09:49:15 PM EST
So what. They didn't accept his mandate after 2008 either.

Don't complain, organize. I did read er. g. about some astonishing numbers out of North Carolina just now on DK.

by IM on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 05:49:20 AM EST
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The "so what" problem is that Obama is unlikely to win Congress and so will be forced to seek some Republican support - and their extremism will be legitimized by the MSM as moderate centrism. Obama's own mandate will be ignored.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 06:56:33 AM EST
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All true, but you have to admit that the same thing happened after 2008 when Obama had a majority in two houses and a very substantial victory.

So even if Obama gets 330 electoral votes and 51% of the popular vote, will it help? No.

THe SCLM is just wired for the right.

by IM on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 08:44:13 AM EST
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Yea but he only had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate for a few months, and since then we've had citizen's united. Without filibuster reform and at least one new Supreme Court Justice he will be able to do very little.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 08:51:22 AM EST
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True. But that are institutional restraints. The media narrative of these restraints doesn't really matter.

The democrats should concentrate on say reap the demographic change as well in Texas as they do now in Nevada. And keeo thier impressive machine sup in Ohio, Virginia and Florida so they can use them for state elections too.

On the Supreme Court Obama can hold the line by replacing Ginsburg. Perhaps he is lucky and Kennedy or Scalia will go.

by IM on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 09:00:40 AM EST
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Kennedy upheld Obama's healthcare reform didn't he? Much rather see Thomas and Scalia go.
by sgr2 on Tue Nov 6th, 2012 at 04:50:31 PM EST
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No, he didn't.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Nov 7th, 2012 at 01:16:07 AM EST
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I stand corrected. I was relying on this article and only zeroed in on the part about "upholding key provisions."

Supreme Court health care ruling - Politico.com

Supreme Court Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy slammed his colleagues for "a vast judicial overreaching" on Thursday by upholding key provisions of President Barack Obama's health care law.

by sgr2 on Wed Nov 7th, 2012 at 10:48:02 AM EST
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Isn't the filibuster something the Democrats could get rid of if they wanted actually to?

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter
by generic on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 09:07:20 AM EST
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Yes.  

It's a Senate rule.  Reid has said he will try to overturn it next session.


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 10:09:54 AM EST
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The filibuster has be one of the weirdest ideas ever.

"We don't have any chance of getting a majority for our ideas, but we have access to a sauna, so we can block the other guy."

Should have been scrapped as soon as Capra was done filming.

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by Number 6 on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 05:23:50 AM EST
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The reasons Dems are loath to scrap it was that it was their once chance of putting the Breaks on Bush during his regime. Unfortunately they never had the balls to really use it.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 07:09:32 AM EST
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The filibuster is too fragile a weapon to waste on political opponents. Good enough for the real enemy though. The voter.

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter
by generic on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 12:25:49 PM EST
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You could at least go back to the original filibuster and stop all business while forcing them to actually talk all the time. With C-Span around, there opponents would get some marvellous clips of them making fools of themselves to use at the next election.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:06:26 AM EST
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NAH - some of them would simply read the Bible out loud from cover to cover...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:22:00 AM EST
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How many of their constituents know the Bible? We'll get some great out-of-context clips of the Senator reading things like
I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem
or
Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:32:14 AM EST
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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 02:20:46 PM EST
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It's from the Song of Songs (aka Song of Solomon.)

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 02:46:11 PM EST
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And the same thing happened in 2000 when Bush won with a mere 5-4 majority. No, wait a moment.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 01:49:45 AM EST
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Hollande was clearly going to win the French election this year, but Sarko pandered to the old racist/authoritarian vote and the media hyped the close finish. Sarko clawed some of the gap back. Hollande won by 3.3% clear (against the incumbent).

Since, we have heard that he hardly won at all, that he doesn't have a mandate. Promises like gay marriage are subjected by the MSM to opinion poll approval. As in fact the latest poll shows 58% approval, then it has to be the fall in support since the poll before. Hollande, as the scarcely-president, needs to placate traditionalist Catholic opinion..?

Trouble is, Hollande doesn't show much will to fight. Remind anyone of Obama?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 04:27:50 AM EST
No, he doesn't remind me of Obama at all, but then I have read very little of what he is or is not trying to do. Some more analysis on ET would be good - as I don't read French and Irish media doesn't really cover France well.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 06:54:33 AM EST
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A couple of things I wrote:

H Is For Hope

The Hollow President

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 08:52:51 AM EST
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Will all of these MSM thingies occur before or after the decision is in the hands of SCOTUS?

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 10:12:40 AM EST
Both. But if my hunch is correct, then Obama's victory will be sufficiently clear cut to take the SCOTUS out of play...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 02:09:16 PM EST
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OK, let's watch. As they used to say in the Apollo mission days, "T minus 48 hours and counting".

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 05:33:30 PM EST
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5% of young people understand basic economics.

Given what passes for economics and how useless it is, if 5% REALLY had some fundamental understanding of economics, perhaps only as much as one might have gotten from a 1960 Econ 101 with Samuelson as the text, we would be in considerably better shape. I would put the true number of those who have an understanding that transcends the confounded and confounding 'mainstream' as more like 0.05%, and probably over half of that number deliberately propagate the 'mainstream' maliase, even if they use more heterodox approaches where it counts.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 07:44:48 PM EST
5% of economists understand economics.

Fixed.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 12:46:29 AM EST
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Obama is talking a good game just now. I am more concerned about what he will be saying to Wall Street on November 7. Just reprising what was enacted in 2009 and 2010 would be a help, but to really improve the economy the role of finance in national politics needs to be confronted.

But even with the best outcome in House and Senate races Obama will have a far weaker hand than the one he held in January 2009. And I have no clue as to the extent, if any, of his understanding of just how misleading a view is provided by our current Received Wisdom on how the economy actually works. I suspect he 'gets' the role of the financial sector in government. I don't know if he 'gets' that this is unsustainable and undermines any meaningful definition of 'democracy'. But he is hardly alone amongst world leaders in that regard.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 07:58:44 PM EST
What Obama gets and doesn't get is almost academic in the context of a Republican controlled congress and conservative controlled SCOTUS. CU has effectively handed control of Democracy over to the financial elite.Until and unless Obama can change the composition of SCOTUS, all else is pfaffing around at the edges.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 09:05:13 PM EST
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A couple of appointments might make a difference.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 09:20:28 PM EST
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We shall see how much Citizens United allowed the buying of elections, and how much it has allowed the wasting of much money.  Signs indicate that despite being massively outspent in every market, the Dems are not looking too bad in the downticket races this year.
by Zwackus on Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 09:26:39 PM EST
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Karl Rove's Mission Accomplished
Some of this reflects the simple fact that money can't help all that much when you have a lousy message. But it also looks as if the money was surprisingly badly spent.


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by Number 6 on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 05:28:40 AM EST
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If he wants to go FDR on them he can threathen to expand their numbers.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 03:12:32 AM EST
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He can only expand the Court by act of Congress and if he doesn't control congress...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 04:43:36 AM EST
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Of snake oil con-men, mail order marketing scams and the conservative culture: A fascinating piece by Rick Perlstein:

The Long Con: Mail-order conservatism | Rick Perlstein | The Baffler

It would be interesting, that is, to ask Coulter about the reflex of lying that's now sutured into the modern conservative movement's DNA--and to get her candid assessment of why conservative leaders treat their constituents like suckers.

The history of that movement echoes with the sonorous names of long-dead Austrian economists, of indefatigable door-knocking cadres, of soaring perorations on a nation finally poised to realize its rendezvous with destiny. Search high and low, however, and there's no mention of oilfields in the placenta. Nor anything about, say, the massive intersection between the culture of "network" or "multilevel" marketing--where ordinary folks try to get rich via pyramid schemes that leave their neighbors holding the bag--and the institutions of both evangelical Christianity and Mitt Romney's Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

And yet this stuff is as important to understanding the conservative ascendancy as are the internecine organizational and ideological struggles that make up its official history--if not, indeed, more so. The strategic alliance of snake-oil vendors and conservative true believers points up evidence of another successful long march, of tactics designed to corral fleeceable multitudes all in one place--and the formation of a cast of mind that makes it hard for either them or us to discern where the ideological con ended and the money con began.

by Bernard on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 03:41:20 PM EST
Good reading.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 04:15:25 PM EST
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Yep. The thing is, though, that this is not new. Father Coughlin took it to the same extreme in the 1930s. And is it suggested that politics in the 1800s or 1700s was any better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

I think there is an assumption, or hope, or expectation, amongst some people that we are in a post-reactionary, enlightened, modern age. We aren't. It's no different now from how it was in 1400. Science has progressed, but the rest of the world is pretty much stuck in the dark ages...

by asdf on Tue Nov 6th, 2012 at 11:08:06 AM EST
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KKKoulter couldn't give you a candid assessment if you held a shotgun to her temple.
by rifek on Wed Nov 14th, 2012 at 12:20:41 PM EST
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