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by Nomad Mon Dec 10th, 2012 at 11:33:46 AM EST
"So, let me get this straight.
A couple of DJs in Australia phones up a hospital and a nurse who is working the switchboard puts them through to get some sensitive information. The hospital does NOT blame the nurse.
The newspapers in the UK then spend 2 days talking about how dumb the nurse must have been etc etc, burying the poor woman in very public humiliation for the entertainment of the public.
Nurse commits suicide.
The newspapers in the UK will now spend days telling everyone how terrible it was that the DJs in Australia drove the woman to suicide.
Did I miss something ?" keep to the Fen Causeway
I contend that what made this different was the fact that the British media decided that, on this one occasion, the person who received the call was a treasonous dunce who deserved repeated front page banner headline public naming and shaming. keep to the Fen Causeway
However I caught a couple of radio comments where it was obvious that considerable scorn was being poured on the women involved. keep to the Fen Causeway
Was she publicly named and shamed? I missed that bit of the story, then. I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
Such things do not stay secret. keep to the Fen Causeway
Problem is, if no scorn from either press or manudjment (as the hospital claims) then suicide by someone who is married with two kids and isn't even British seems like a very peculiar over-reaction.
And not being British but doing one's best may have something to do with it.
A big point here is that the media once again let SO14 (the Royal Protection squad) off the hook again... since they are supposed to be responsible for vetting all contacts with the royals.
it's been tiptoed around, without reference to an autopsy, a coroner's report, a method of suicide -if it was, etc.
it's been cloaked by a curtain of propriety...
the least believable press conference was from the hospital spokesman, who referred to the support she was given.
the dj's took their time to appear, but when they did, deftly apportioned some or all the blame to those upstairs at the station, who had the responsibility to choosing which bits were aired. when i remarked to my SU that they hadn't really come out and said 'we're sorry', rather than how tragic it was and how sad they were. she said they will have been advised to avoid saying that in case of civil suits later, where it would have been an admission of culpability.
honesty has a price, literally...
the other dot that won't connect is the face photo of the deceased the first few days (until today) was one of those weird feral-looking shots that made her look androgonously psycho, red-eye and all.
today they had finally found a better shot, which made her look like a totally different person, ethereal, a bit like an illustration from an edwardian romantic novel, very pretty and feminine.
very strange story all round, sorry to hear about the naming and shaming from the gutter press, seems like they never learn about their bullying can cost people their sanity.
i felt sorry for the dj's, and wonder what career they will have now. they had no malice in them, just airheads at play.
people will be more careful about pranking, which i suspect is less of the core problem than the bubble frank's comment refers to, especially considering in a democracy evolved beyond monarchy there would not have been this fetishisation of the 'royal' baby any more than any other. this whole story brings that weirdness that the cult of monarchy is into sharp relief. It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
Over at our Daily Comment blog, I've put up a longer post on the latest failure of austerity economics: the admission by George Osborne, the British Chancellor of the Exchequer, that, after two and half years of furious budget-cutting, he's still failing to meet his own fiscal targets. One thing I didn't mention in that piece is that Osborne isn't merely reaffirming his commitment to the deflationary economics of the early nineteen-thirties. He's coupling it with an embrace of Reaganite trickle-down economics of the nineteen-eighties and the even harsher Benthamite economics of the eighteen-thirties. Earlier this year, he cut the top tax rate from fifty per cent to forty-five per cent, claiming that Britain's highest earners needed incentivizing. Now, with roughly one in twelve working-age Britons out of a job, he's cutting the value of unemployment benefits--a move that harkens back to the infamous Poor Law of 1834, which was designed to stigmatize paupers and vagrants. Cutting the value of unemployment benefits won't make much of an impact on the deficit. The savings will amount to about four billion pounds in a total budget of about seven hundred billion pounds. But the cut will be felt by the jobless and their families, many of whom already live in poverty or near poverty. In the United Kingdom, unlike in the United States, the level of unemployment benefits isn't linked to the recipient's wages in his or her last job. Single people get a maximum of seventy-one pounds (about $115) a week, and couples get up to a hundred and twelve pounds (about $180). For decades, governments of both parties have raised the payments in line with inflation, so that their purchasing power remains steady. But with inflation currently running at more than 2.5 per cent, Osborne has ruled that over the next three years increases in benefits will be limited to one per cent. That might not sound like a big difference, but over three years it could well add up to a five per cent drop in purchasing power.
One thing I didn't mention in that piece is that Osborne isn't merely reaffirming his commitment to the deflationary economics of the early nineteen-thirties. He's coupling it with an embrace of Reaganite trickle-down economics of the nineteen-eighties and the even harsher Benthamite economics of the eighteen-thirties. Earlier this year, he cut the top tax rate from fifty per cent to forty-five per cent, claiming that Britain's highest earners needed incentivizing. Now, with roughly one in twelve working-age Britons out of a job, he's cutting the value of unemployment benefits--a move that harkens back to the infamous Poor Law of 1834, which was designed to stigmatize paupers and vagrants.
Cutting the value of unemployment benefits won't make much of an impact on the deficit. The savings will amount to about four billion pounds in a total budget of about seven hundred billion pounds. But the cut will be felt by the jobless and their families, many of whom already live in poverty or near poverty. In the United Kingdom, unlike in the United States, the level of unemployment benefits isn't linked to the recipient's wages in his or her last job. Single people get a maximum of seventy-one pounds (about $115) a week, and couples get up to a hundred and twelve pounds (about $180). For decades, governments of both parties have raised the payments in line with inflation, so that their purchasing power remains steady. But with inflation currently running at more than 2.5 per cent, Osborne has ruled that over the next three years increases in benefits will be limited to one per cent. That might not sound like a big difference, but over three years it could well add up to a five per cent drop in purchasing power.
A Scottish Catholic bishop has condemned David Cameron for being "devoid of moral competence" after the PM stated that churches should be allowed to provide same-sex marriages. The Rt Rev Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell, believes the prime minister is now "out of his depth" and can no longer be trusted by Christians.
The Rt Rev Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell, believes the prime minister is now "out of his depth" and can no longer be trusted by Christians.
Mr Davies made the claim as he spoke out against David Cameron's plans to allow same-sex couples to marry, including in some churches. Mr Davies, the MP for Monmouth, said the plan was "barking mad" and would cost the Conservative Party many of its traditional supporters. In an interview with BBC Wales, he went on to say that "most parents" would prefer their children not to be homosexual.
Mr Davies, the MP for Monmouth, said the plan was "barking mad" and would cost the Conservative Party many of its traditional supporters.
In an interview with BBC Wales, he went on to say that "most parents" would prefer their children not to be homosexual.
most people would prefer not to have Tory governments, but sometimes it just happens keep to the Fen Causeway
The minister for women and equalities has assured MPs that the government's plans for same-sex marriages will ensure that faith organisations do not have to conduct gay ceremonies amid fierce criticism from Conservative MPs over the idea.
I'm confused. Currently, if a (het) couple shows up in some random church, is that church obliged to marry them? Legally speaking?
I would have thought that there would be at least some simulacrum of a perfunctory eligibility check (Have you been confirmed? No? Baptised? No? Oh never mind).
Sure, I'm guessing that, in general, churches are eager to perform marriages. But obliged? It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
I'm sure there are some gay people who are daft enough to want to get married in church, but I can't for the life of me imagine why they'd want the endorsement of an institution which so obviously detests their very existence. keep to the Fen Causeway
I imagine they wouldn't have too much trouble finding a church ready to marry them. Except for those churches which practice democratic centralism according to the Bolshevik model (i.e. top-down decision making). i.e. a Catholic couple might have to get married in an Anglican church, or even a Protestant one.
Anyway, I have a problem with the very idea of any sort of religious organisation performing any sort of legally-sanctioned union. And another problem with the government interfering with what consenting adults do in church. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/ona.html
Currently, if a (het) couple shows up in some random church, is that church obliged to marry them?
No.
i.e. it's a conservative scare story, if there were any doubt. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
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