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by afew Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 11:22:17 AM EST

Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late


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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 11:22:37 AM EST


keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:03:37 PM EST
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So far, my life revolves around being no more than reaching distance of a box of hankies right now. Uggg.

and sleeping. I will get over this soon I hope but nothing is happening in my life for now

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:06:19 PM EST
Awww. Wishing I could feed you some chicken soup.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:15:05 PM EST
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Yea, that'd go down very nicely right now. But me mum has just got a new oven and is experimenting. So will be filling my face with sausage rolls any time soon. Tomorrow there will be cakes

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:54:41 PM EST
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I know quite a few people who have been very ill this past month. Probably worth it to get a flu shot. And enough sleep.
by asdf on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:39:24 PM EST
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I was wiped out by a flu abut two years ago. It's not my turn. This is just a bad cold.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 12:53:24 PM EST
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The Christmas fair in the local park today - doesn't quite fit :-)

christmas-fair-liberation-nice-2012-02393

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 01:42:46 PM EST
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Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 01:44:49 PM EST
Greenland ice getting angry at climate deniers.

Guardian

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaďs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 03:45:57 PM EST
So, do current climate models incorporate the sort of non-linear melting of ice on Greenland that we witnessed in this clip? 4+ cubic KM broke up and floated away in 75 minutes. It might take 75+ days for it all to melt, but that event only hastens the flow of the entire glacial mass behind this piece.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 01:17:55 PM EST
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My limited understanding is that the models do currently try to account for these effects, but the data behind them is poor. It's hard to measure what is going on, so both the models themselves and the ability to validate the models are limited.
by asdf on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 09:13:52 PM EST
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Kate Middleton prank call: Royal hoax nurse criticised hospital in suicide note - Mirror Online
Anguish: Jacintha Saldanha was found dead after hoax

Nurse Jacintha Saldanha wrote three emotional notes revealing the anguish that led to her suicide after she was duped by two Aussie DJs into believing they were royalty.

In one, the distraught mum-of-two outlines how she struggled to come to terms with the prank call by Mel Greig and Michael Christian to the hospital where pregnant Duchess Kate was being treated for severe morning sickness.

But in another she ­criticises senior colleagues at the King Edward VII hospital over her ­treatment after the pair had pretended to be the Queen and Prince Charles asking about the ­duchess's condition. That note is said to have left her family furious.

the other shoe drops... i can well imagine the nature of the 'support' that oily spokesman from the hospital talked about.

Who Could Have Predicted?

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 04:17:46 PM EST
i am enjoying this fine movie, anyone seen it?

Restless (2011 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Restless is a 2011 British-American drama film directed by Gus Van Sant and written by Jason Lew. It stars Henry Hopper and Mia Wasikowska.

mia wasikowska a very fine spirit.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 04:20:29 PM EST
Putting it on my rental list right now. I love film recommendations, thanks.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 04:31:47 PM EST
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Releases under the Sony Picture Classics label are usually good and sometimes great.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 04:51:47 PM EST
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Nevada just pissed away an easy victory to Arizona. The Nevada players looked dazed. Now it's time for the Idaho Potato Bowl.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 04:43:02 PM EST
My first kid is born today! She's a girl, named Agathe, and is well...

This is our news of the week end...
;-)

A free fox in a free henhouse!

by Xavier in Paris on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 05:20:22 PM EST
Congrats!
by Katrin on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 05:27:08 PM EST
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thanks! I'm not staying long, I'm exhausted: all started very early this morning, and I'm just back at home (alone, as kid and mother stays at the hospital for newborn babies).

We're the first in the family in our generation... ^_^

A free fox in a free henhouse!

by Xavier in Paris on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 05:30:40 PM EST
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I wonder if there is a European version of Dr. Spock, or if his theories extended globally. I found his book to be very useful, especially at those times of midnight terror/frustration/anger that seem to be part of child-rearing...
by asdf on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 10:52:31 PM EST
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Congratulations and best wishes, Xavier! (and family...)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 02:13:22 AM EST
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Congratulations

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:07:41 AM EST
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A journey begins! Congratulations.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 01:20:52 PM EST
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The Prison-educational complex
"Growing up, I experienced unschooling as a compromise," I concluded, "the more appealing of the two extremes available in Georgia given my family's modest budget: staying at home and teaching myself, or going to public school and having my spirit crushed.


I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 07:16:56 PM EST
Our entire media circus is blaring three rings of navel-gazing teary sympathy for non-Syrian parents whose children have been killed by crazed gunmen.

Hanky supplies have been wiped out. Civilization is toppling. The National Rifle Association is in emergency mode, but don't worry, in a few days the threats to legislators will all be in place, and nothing will be done, and we can return to ten-car crashes on the freeway.

Align culture with our nature.

by ormondotvos (ormond no spam lmi net no spam) on Sat Dec 15th, 2012 at 09:20:50 PM EST
Car crashes don't kill as many people as guns, in ten American states.

Everybody uses cars every day. They are everywhere. Families ride around in them. My neighbor lady probably takes at least six trips a day ferrying her offspring around.

And yet guns, which are mostly kept out of sight, and owned by a minority of the population (well, technically about half), kill more people. Oh, excuse me, people with guns kill more people than people with cars.

by asdf on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 11:11:16 AM EST
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Does this cross the line from merely bad journalism to actual intent to mislead?
Another new factor is bedevilling efforts to read the Italian runes: an acerbic, grey-bearded comedian called Beppe Grillo. An accountant by training, Mr Grillo, 64, became a comedian by accident and was one of the most bankable stand-ups on Italian television in the 1980s. But his political intelligence and knowledge of the world of money frequently erupted through the gags, and in a country where satire is a risky vocation he found himself banned from the airwaves after teasing the Socialist Party under its then leader Bettino Craxi about corruption.

Turning his back on TV, he built a huge new audience through live shows in which anti-establishment political content steadily elbowed aside the comedy. His obsessions were legion: polluting rubbish incinerators, freedom of speech, non-renewable terms for MPs, expansion of public transport and green areas of cities.

No explicit mention of TAV anywhere in the article....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 02:20:22 AM EST
The Indy is very good at some things and terrible at others. The Middle East coverage c/o Fisk and Cockburn is exemplary, some of their political writers are really very good with Owen Jones becoming compulsory reading.

Against that, their european coverage is bizarre and their economic writers are sometimes the wrongest of the wrong. Particularly Hamish McRae who is a brilliant guide for predicting the opposite of what will happen

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:13:07 AM EST
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Guardian - Miners' strike: senior officer was 'appalled' at conduct of other police

A senior police officer has broken ranks to describe how he and others were "appalled" at the behaviour of colleagues during the miners' strike as calls mount for a fresh inquiry into the policing of the dispute.

The former Cleveland Constabulary officer said he was so disillusioned with the behaviour of a number of police towards striking miners that he asked to be excused from attending picket lines during the 1984/85 dispute.

"I was appalled at the conduct of a number of officers, generally members of the Metropolitan police who we described as the Banana Squad - all bent and yellow," said the officer in a letter to Labour MP Ian Lavery.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 10:01:38 AM EST
and more;-

Meanwhile, the Orgreave Truth and Justice Campaign, has been offered the full support of the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, with both intent on getting justice over the role of South Yorkshire police in the manipulation of evidence and "fitting up" innocent people.

Hillsborough campaign organiser Sheila Coleman said that any examination of the policing during the stadium disaster in 1989 would need to include policing tactics and attitude displayed during the miners' strike.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 10:07:03 AM EST
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Guardian - Nigel Farage heads for row over Ukip's anti-gay allies

Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, is facing new accusations of homophobia in his party over its links with anti-gay, far-right European politicians and claims that he has backed a populist Polish priest who describes homosexual men as "sodomites".

Farage - whose party has shot up to 14% in an Opinium/Observer opinion poll today - vowed last week to exploit Conservative divisions over gay marriage, while insisting that his party "respects the rights of gay people to have civil partnerships". Its poll surge is a serious worry for Conservatives ahead of the 2014 European elections, from which Farage believes his party can emerge with the highest share of the vote of any UK party. Ukip's support is now almost half that of the Tories, who stand on 29%, 10 points behind Labour on 39%. The Liberal Democrats are on 8%.

While Farage is keen to portray Ukip as tolerant of gay people at home, investigations by the Observer show that it is in alliance in the European parliament with parties containing politicians who have expressed open hostility to homosexuals. Farage himself has been linked to a campaign in Poland supportive of hardline Catholic media outlets that are strongly critical of homosexuality



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 10:10:29 AM EST
On a personal note (is there any other kind in the Trilobite universe?), I twisted my ankle in a manner that one might call laughable, but that shall remain extraneous to the narrative as long as I have anything to do with it. Which I shall have.

I am confined to quarters, and may now have an honest reason for non-attendance of a movie premiere tomorrow, to which I contributed some biblical readings in hell and brimstone style - without knowing what the movie was about. I suspect it is scandalous and that a little bit of space between myself and its makers could be useful.

Having already professed to all and sundry that I am of the Druze Liberal persuasion, I can't really refuse to help someone who might have similar views to mine. He's young, passionate, and just about ready for some paradigm shifting intrusions in the form of self-created 'big mistakes' - but that's how we learn, after all. Who am I to interrupt his education?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 11:33:46 AM EST
get well soon!
by stevesim on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 11:46:49 AM EST
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Yikes, find a good comfy chair and apply good wine internally until the pain goes

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 11:53:18 AM EST
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It works a treat...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 12:11:55 PM EST
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I hope your kitchen, refrigerator and pantry are well stocked and that you do not need to go out for a while. Severe sprains can take longer to heal than some breaks. I hope you have some way to keep it elevated while doing something entertaining/distracting. I have a long history of bad sprains, dating back to per-adolescence when they often occurred while I was out walking around the countryside a mile or more from home. I learned to wait until the immediate pain subsided some and then to carefully make it back home as quickly as possible.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 01:34:25 PM EST
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It was not bad last night - I even got to the neighbours for a glögg gathering (mulled wine), But today has been hell - very sore. I do my Quasimodo impression when going into the kitchen to make tea.

Fortunately all business is electronic this week, so as long as I can make it from bed to computer, I'm OK. Plus, by chance, I had a DVD shopping spree last week, so I have entertainment.

Thanks for your concern.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 03:46:15 PM EST
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by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 03:52:58 PM EST
that's more like it

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:02:41 PM EST
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Scholars and Rogues - Brin Angliss - Libertarians, engineers, and climate disruption denial: part 1 - libertarians

Ever since I encountered my first example of a climate disruption denier I've wondered what kind of person could deny the reality that is industrial climate disruption. Over the years of writing on climate, however, it became clear that there were two groups of people who made up the majority of the serious deniers - libertarians and engineers of various stripes.
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But Iyer et al indicate that this moral good is not well measured by traditional studies of morality, writing that "standard morality scales... do a poor job of measuring libertarian values" and that "if liberty is included as a moral value, libertarians are not amoral." The flip side of this statement, however, means that libertarians do not share a common moral framework with either liberals or conservatives.

The data in Iyer et al demonstrate that libertarians have a similar profile (the relative order of importance of various values) to liberals on one test of moral values, the Moral Foundations Questionnaire (MFQ). Specifically, libertarians rate fairness highest, followed by harm, and both groups value authority and purity the least. But Iyer et al indicates that libertarians don't think about fairness and harm in the same ways that liberals do - harm to a liberal often means injury to someone else, while harm to a libertarian means injury to the libertarian by others. Conservatives valued authority and being associated with the "in" group the most, above both harm and fairness.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:01:26 PM EST
I think engineering overall attracts people who are conservative. They do their homework, put in their required hours, follow the dress code, do what the boss says, and then complain when others don't do the same thing. They expect (in the U.S.) to buy their own house in the suburbs, get occasional promotions, not be laid off, and then at 65 get a retirement package that sets them up for the subsequent 30 years.

(Wanna see a severely disturbed engineer? Find one who was laid off. Or one who is retired and is looking now for the first time at his retirement financial situation.)

Anything that looks like it might disrupt that scenario is threatening. And any reasonable response that society might make to the problems of climate change is extremely disruptive. It's possible that engineers might see, perhaps limited to their own narrow viewpoint, but still, within that viewpoint, the very gigantic social disruption that is going to happen in the next 50 years if the projections are even close to being true.

Mass starvation is not all that easy to look straight in the face...

by asdf on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 09:45:35 PM EST
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It certainly rang true for some engineers I've known in the UK, including one who remains a good friend to this day, but others I've known were pretty normal.

Maybe the profile is slightly skewed in the US, or the underlying culture brings out traits not usually apparent under UK culture

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Dec 17th, 2012 at 02:46:37 AM EST
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If you're looking for it, it's just off Piazzale Tomasso Edison.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:09:22 PM EST
Greyhound racing?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:15:46 PM EST
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Long abandoned, I think.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:28:15 PM EST
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Me no understand art, but why do the workers have wind-up keys in their backs, and the pope has octopus tentacles? Is there some political dimension? :-)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaďs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 04:54:23 PM EST
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Mechanical, purely mechanical.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 05:29:22 PM EST
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Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu Rome wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 05:40:59 PM EST
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I suppose you shouldn't expect perfect accuracy in this sort of situation, but it is a bit of a stretch to associate the Ku Klux Klan with the Freemasons--as is suggested by the hooded guys with the masonic symbols. Both groups are, or were, anti-Catholic, and they probably had significant membership overlap, but beyond that the connection is not very tight...

But the association of conventional businessman (brief case), Klansmen, and Masons is probably correct...

by asdf on Sun Dec 16th, 2012 at 09:53:53 PM EST
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I'm not sure it's a direct reference to the KKK. It made me think of the Catholic penitent brotherhoods. The hood would symbolise masked anonymity, but there might also be an ironic reflection on the pseudo-religious trappings of Masonic ritual.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 17th, 2012 at 02:23:52 AM EST
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