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by afew Thu Dec 20th, 2012 at 11:04:41 AM EST
Use this final Open Thread with care and respect. Or do not go gentle into that good night.
Guardian - Martin Kettle - Is plebgate a product of the push for police reform?
f it is true, as friends of the former chief whip were arguing today, that he is the victim of "an absolute police stitch-up", then that is a very big deal, and it is not just Mitchell who is entitled to be angry. It is every democrat and every believer in the rule of law and the security of the state too. Mitchell's vindication, were it to occur and be conclusive, would necessarily imply one of the most devastating police scandals of modern times - and there are already plenty of contenders for that accolade. We should be clear what we may be getting into here. Several tabloids this week greeted the arrest of a suspect in the Mitchell affair as a chilling witch-hunt against a whistleblower. It was, they argued, proof of the dark shadow that a Lex Leveson might cast across the work of our glorious unshackled press. But the truth could be almost exactly the reverse. If an armed police officer entrusted with one of the greatest responsibilities in the state - guarding the government - conspired to bring down an elected politician, that is something that cannot be treated lightly. If it is not an act of high treason then it seems to me that it's not far off. And if Mitchell is telling the truth, then the whole episode shows not why Leveson is so dangerous but why Leveson was so needed and why the report should be supported. A lot at stake? I'll say there would be.
We should be clear what we may be getting into here. Several tabloids this week greeted the arrest of a suspect in the Mitchell affair as a chilling witch-hunt against a whistleblower. It was, they argued, proof of the dark shadow that a Lex Leveson might cast across the work of our glorious unshackled press.
But the truth could be almost exactly the reverse. If an armed police officer entrusted with one of the greatest responsibilities in the state - guarding the government - conspired to bring down an elected politician, that is something that cannot be treated lightly. If it is not an act of high treason then it seems to me that it's not far off. And if Mitchell is telling the truth, then the whole episode shows not why Leveson is so dangerous but why Leveson was so needed and why the report should be supported. A lot at stake? I'll say there would be.
For the average citizen, if it's your word against a police officer, you will almost always lose. In truth, that was the case with Mitchell, too, until CCTV footage emerged casting doubt on the police version of events. Such evidence would never be examined in other cases. Perhaps, after this episode, politicians will be more open to scrutinising police behaviour. Consider, too, the recent exposure of the Hillsborough cover-up, and the false statements initially provided after the killings of Jean-Charles de Menezes and Ian Tomlinson. A white privileged politician has just experienced a small slice of the frustration long felt in many of our communities. Perhaps now it will be a little bit more acceptable to stop automatically taking every police officer at their word.
Perhaps, after this episode, politicians will be more open to scrutinising police behaviour. Consider, too, the recent exposure of the Hillsborough cover-up, and the false statements initially provided after the killings of Jean-Charles de Menezes and Ian Tomlinson.
A white privileged politician has just experienced a small slice of the frustration long felt in many of our communities. Perhaps now it will be a little bit more acceptable to stop automatically taking every police officer at their word.
Liberal conspiracy - Johnathan Kent - Why the `pleb-gate' affair should also worry the Left
Furthermore Crick's report contrasted a recording made by Mitchell of a meeting with Police Federation representatives with their account of the meeting. The comparison certainly seemed to suggest that the Police Federation account misrepresented the meeting in a way that put Mitchell in a very poor light. When the contents of the police the report were leaked it wasn't to the Guardian or the Mirror, it was to The Sun. The Sun, already locked in a tussle with the political class, published; not too many questions asked. Together the police and News International took a major political scalp just when they most needed to. It served as a reminder to Downing Street that both could bite back. [....] No one in politics, left or right, should be anything but deeply disturbed at the possibility that part of the state's security apparatus is meddling in politics. It was bad enough that police officers and News International journalists apparently conspired to invade the privacy of victims of crime and people in public life alike. [....] The possibility that they're working to bring down our elected representatives is way more worrying.
When the contents of the police the report were leaked it wasn't to the Guardian or the Mirror, it was to The Sun. The Sun, already locked in a tussle with the political class, published; not too many questions asked. Together the police and News International took a major political scalp just when they most needed to. It served as a reminder to Downing Street that both could bite back. [....]
No one in politics, left or right, should be anything but deeply disturbed at the possibility that part of the state's security apparatus is meddling in politics. It was bad enough that police officers and News International journalists apparently conspired to invade the privacy of victims of crime and people in public life alike. [....] The possibility that they're working to bring down our elected representatives is way more worrying.
Although I fear that the Channel Four investigative reporter seemed entirely too keen on stitching up the guy who sent the email, rather than asking: "Who put this plot into motion?"
It seems unlikely to me that 2 Police Officers just decided to do this on their own.
Secondly at the time the first story came out, it was most advantageous for the government. It drew lots of attention away from the George Osbourne railfair fraud story which was just getting into gear, but rapidly became old news. Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
Village evacuated as floods and heavy rains hit Britain | UK news | guardian.co.uk
Also in Hampshire, a father and daughter had to swim to safety after their Porsche was engulfed by water. The pair were stranded in a ford in the New Forest after the river Lymington rose rapidly, but they made it the shallows and were helped by a community support officer.
Trying to drive through a ford in a porsche? They might have had more luck doing the opposite. Alternative take : High correlation between porsche ownership and stupidity does not prove causality. But if there were a causal relationship, in which direction? Discuss. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
They might have had more luck doing the opposite.
ROFLMAO
very good...
anyone else watching putin getting questioned by journalists live on RT? putin may be many things, but he is a leader, which we in europe lack, for better or worse. some brave journalists. he's called out the USA roundly for their human rights hypocrisy, saying what no servile pol in yurp would say. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
considering the puerile provocations he gets, he keeps cool under pressure.
funny how obama can be too, though i don't agree with eirther of their policies in the main.
china's leaders seem fossilised.
europe just doesn't have any, just a bunch of empty suits spouting obsolete platitudes...
like flies in some cultural amber, emitting little squeaks of 'forward to the past' or just ...stuck. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
(Assuming that the dividends are taxed when the profits work their way through to US shareholders...)
Of course, there's a pure evasion element as well, but I think this is a geopolitical effect that seems to suggest every country will become like Greece over time...
But all they do is exploit laws deliberately created by our elites for their own purposes. If they weren't such greasy scumbags we wouldn't be in this mess keep to the Fen Causeway
Taxes are for little people. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
what can seriously happen there?
seems like a puppet shop, who holds the strings? the government of the caymans must do well somehow out of it. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
The Government of the Cayman Islands, effectively, collects overpriced rent on all those mailboxes.
heh, whatever price it is, it'll be a deal!
and yes it seems like an economic sargasso sea, a stagnant place where elephants of value slowly expire.
no army, no police force, no garrison, no base, no ingots needed, just to defend some innocent insignificant(!) PO boxes in the middle of the ocean.
nothin' to see here... 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
None of these banks appear to do anything with the money. So it is maybe an answer to my ongoing question of "how does money become idle?" (because mainstream economists are always denying the possibility...)
He financed some of our movies - knowing them (which we didn't) to be excellent tax losses. I don't know exactly how he benefitted financially from our losses - but he did.
The biggest challenge to tax collection is the complex tax laws that have been built on endless amendments and special cases that compound the original inadequacies. The only doable solution, imho, is a simplified, no-deduction system such as the Tobin Tax. It would mean that possibly several hundred thousand tax advisory companies would be out of business. Lawyers would be cast out onto the streets. Corporate accountants would be destitute. It would be awful.
What's not to like? You can't be me, I'm taken
The biggest challenge to tax collection is the complex tax laws that have been built on endless amendments and special cases that compound the original inadequacies.
that reminds me of this i just read, sigh...
Beppe Grillo's Blog
The finance law for 2013 is called the Stability law It was written by madmen out in the community. Anyone reading it is at risk of mental insanity. Among the many possible examples, the start of point 11 of the article called "Finanziamento di esigenze indifferibili {Financing urgent needs}": "In order to finance interventions to assist categories of workers covered in articles 24, points 14 and 15, and the legal decree dated 06 December 2011, n, 201, converted with modifications, in the law dated 22 December 2011, n.214, 6. point 2-ter, of the legal decree dated 29 December 2011, n. 216, converted with modifications, in the law dated 24 February 2012, n. 14 and 22 of the legal decree dated 6 July 2012, n. 95, converted with modifications, in the law dated 7 August 2012, n. 135... ". Yesterday evening, the law was approved by the Senate's Budget Committee with the appropriate last minute modifications for friends, relatives, lobbies and the rest. The way the Text has been drafted in its typical Monti-obscurity, in its Kafka style, in the special "new-speak" that is typical of the buro-sauri, doesn't manage to make the legislative soup produced by Rigor Montis completely understandable. Something filters down, from the bits and pieces of evidence and it's possible to make out a few things. And the stuff that can be understood is astounding. Cuts to the Health System, article "Rationalization and reduction of spend in the health sector", point 2, reduction of 600 million for 2013 and 1,000 million euro starting from 2014. Cuts that are needed in order to provide finance for the bankrupt publishing sector, with an increase of 40 million in relation to the previous year, and the useless TAV in Val di Susa, with two billion and 200 million in 15 years. Funding for universities has gone up by just 100 million instead of the 400 million expected and in order to get savings they are even going to turn off the street lights, return to the dark ages, article "Reduction of spend by Local Authorities", point 25, subsection a, "Turning off street lighting or automatically reducing its brightness by using special equipment during all or some hours of darkness" as a favour to organised crime. The article that must not be ignored Financing urgent spending", point 2, subsection f, the "The Bank for the Development of the Caribbean has a Special Development Fund with 4,753,000 euro ..." Fundamental for the economic development of the country is the immediate call for tenders to create gaming halls to swell public finances. Less health, less education, more cement, more gambling den managers, more paid hacks. This is the finance law of the Statesman that makes us the envy of all the banks. See you in Parliament! Outside or inside it'll be a pleasure.PS: The taxpaying citizens are those who pay for the finance law. They have the right to an understandable document, no longer than ten pages, with new spending and cuts and the reasoning for the decisions given in terms of the social and economic benefits of each measure. Too complicated for this technical government?
nice of monti to give millions to the caymans to 'develop', huh? 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
Adam Curtis wrote something about this phenomena some time or another. It was a good piece, but then again they generally are. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
Any road, he patiently explained to me many times how he could (and did) make money whichever way the market was moving - as long as there was liquidity. It was fascinating - another world. I said then that, OK. You're a chess freak. It's a game. And I knew, for him, it wasn't the money as such. He pulled all his money out of the markets a few months before the Finnish crash and got into property.
We're still close friends. but somehow at opposite ends of the spectrum. He doesn't fully understand what I do, and vice versa. Somehow it works.
But today I'd say to him that "your games then are now other people's weapons." You can't be me, I'm taken
World's biggest patent troll saves Kodak from bankruptcy:
Intellectual Ventures has filed several lawsuits of its own in the past few years, and has also handed off patents to smaller patent-holding companies to use in litigation. That's a roundabout way of saying that Kodak patents may well be popping up in future patent troll suits in the future. After all, somebody is going to have to get their $525 million back.
That's a roundabout way of saying that Kodak patents may well be popping up in future patent troll suits in the future. After all, somebody is going to have to get their $525 million back.
Intellectual Ventures is owned by Google, Apple, Facebook, Research in Motion, Amazon, Microsoft, Samsung, Adobe, Huawei Technologies, HTC, Fujifilm, and Shutterfly. Since these companies pretty much define the high-tech consumer electronic business standby for monopolistic stagnation. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Some ten years ago, as I lay sick in bed for several weeks afflicted with West Nile Virus, I spent considerable time gazing upon a print of this very painting.
We just recently discovered John Constable was the painter. Since then we've run across more prints of his. He must have been very popular here in the mid-west in the late 19th century and early 20th century. NVA, a viable option when the political process fails.
Commonly known as Reduction of the Surplus to Requirements pre-Labor Force Entrants. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Sandy Hook?
you are the media you consume.
Stunning. You can't be me, I'm taken
Kan jag byta till ett annat rum?
Meaning: Can I (to) buy another (= different) rum?
Although endless variations on vodka and aquavit are widely available in Sweden the rum choices are quite limited.
Or so I gather. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Paraphrasing the archetypal pith-helmetted explorer: "Its nice here, Caruthers. Too nice!" You can't be me, I'm taken
Here I wanted to put a clip from Utvandrarna, the filmatisation of Moberg's classic migration epic (from Sweden to the states). There is a lovely episode where a guy has spent the journey studying english from a book only for no one to understand his pronounciation when they arrive. Could have soemthing to do with his pronounciation being not English with a Swedish accent, but pure Swedish. Unfortunately no one has bothered to paste it on youtube. Lazy kids these days. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
Yet secularism has not spared St Matthew's. The church is a south London landmark, a vast neo-classical monument with room for 1,800 worshippers, built in 1822 to commemorate the victory at Waterloo. Since the mid-1970s, however, when plunging congregations made it unaffordable, the church has operated from a small portion of the building. Some of the rest was leased out as a nightclub, "Mass", which became well-known for hosting bondage parties. "The walls aren't insulated so there was a lot of noise," recalls one parishioner. Now the nightclub has closed; some of the building is being turned into a pub. It is unclear who were more representative of British society, the worshippers in England's established church or the sado-masochists next-door. Around 3% of English people attend an Anglican service at least once a month. Perhaps more significantly, according to the 2011 census, only 59% call themselves Christian, representing a drop of 13 points in a decade. By comparison, two in three young women, according to a poll by More! magazine, claim to have experimented with bondage or spanking. The concept of Christendom, a Christian realm that has endured since the time of Constantine the Great, is dying in Britain. In the most godless continent, it is one of the most secular countries.
It is unclear who were more representative of British society, the worshippers in England's established church or the sado-masochists next-door. Around 3% of English people attend an Anglican service at least once a month. Perhaps more significantly, according to the 2011 census, only 59% call themselves Christian, representing a drop of 13 points in a decade. By comparison, two in three young women, according to a poll by More! magazine, claim to have experimented with bondage or spanking. The concept of Christendom, a Christian realm that has endured since the time of Constantine the Great, is dying in Britain. In the most godless continent, it is one of the most secular countries.
The commons also has a hefty proportion of god botherers who regularly attempt to restrict abortion rights. Often justifying it with claims to scientific legitimacy straight from catholic propaganda. keep to the Fen Causeway
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