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End Of World [UPDATE] Open Thread

by afew Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:31:50 AM EST

The Pyrenees this morning are shrouded in thick cloud with that luminous lower band that indicates probable snowfall. Climbing to an east-facing attic window, I anxiously peer out in the direction of the Pech de Bugarach, 1230m. All is mist and mystery. No sign yet of the alien star-cruiser splitting apart the sacred mountain as it rises toward new horizons, bearing the elect, while the hapless rest of us await the end.

Use this as an open thread to record your last thoughts on earth.


[UPDATE 18.55 GMT (i think)] now they're saying it's between 23.00 and midnight... Patience!

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No Santa this year. Not fair to the kids.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:34:24 AM EST
Nothing happening here except snow.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:54:05 AM EST
We're in between two bands of heavy rain, so it's sunshine and not even cold

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:45:35 AM EST
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Nothing happening here in Vienna, as I predicted.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:59:24 AM EST
Forward
A worshipper at the Western Wall found an envelope with 507 open checks worth about half a billion dollars.

The checks, most worth $1 million and originating from countries around the world, were signed but not made out to anybody. The majority of the checks came from Nigeria, according to the Rabbi of the Western Wall, Shmuel Rabinowitz.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:00:28 AM EST
Hey, they're mine. give them back !!

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:45:57 AM EST
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This ought to be of interest to the BIS as for such a scam to work the scamers would need access to check clearing information - probably well beyond what is/was on a canceled check.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 11:49:19 AM EST
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Not long and a stream of jokes about Maya prophesies will flood the internet and make it crash.
by Katrin on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:05:00 AM EST
#mayanapocalypse or #livetweetingtheapocalypse for example. And I'm not going near fb.

But why shouldn't we join in? After all... (forget that, bad choice of words).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:24:27 AM EST
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It's not the end of the world if you do it.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:26:49 AM EST
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FB is actually quiet right now. I think all the jokes were done last night. But then again, the US is still asleep

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:34:20 AM EST
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maybe they are dead.
by stevesim on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:38:16 AM EST
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The NRA wet dream

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:46:38 AM EST
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And as expected nothing happening here in Switzerland except for unusally warm temperatures.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:24:19 AM EST
I think Switzerland got an opt-out. So many powerful people have their cash stashed there.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:27:16 AM EST
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Well, then I think the Bahamas, Luxemburg, etc. are safe too.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:31:41 AM EST
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maybe this is the end and we just don't realize it.
by stevesim on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:41:59 AM EST
It's TEOTW as we know it, don't you know.

Perhaps it suffices to remain oblivious.

Hang on, what's that rumbling?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:48:36 AM EST
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eurogreen:
It's TEOTW as we know it

So you had to go and say that, didn't you? You just had to, huh?

Very well: on your own head so be it:



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt t gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:51:34 AM EST
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Dear Lord, I sincerely hope you're coming 'cos you've really started something

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:57:10 AM EST
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keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:38:16 AM EST
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Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:38:32 AM EST
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I nearly accidentally looked at Bono on the street today, which would be a terrible faux pas.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:41:35 PM EST
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I suppose a girly scream of "It's Midge Ure" wouldn't really work

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:51:02 PM EST
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When i last sat with him at a table in an indie bar at the base of Potrero Hill, he did remark that he found it hard to get everyone to kneel when he walked by.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:31:18 PM EST
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I rather hoped we'd go with this instead;-



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:40:25 AM EST
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I never really used to be into The Doors, I dunno, too self-consciously arty, too popular with the cool kids, whatever. But they've grown on me over the years.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:43:49 AM EST
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My favorite group in the '60s. I was trapped living with a pair of asshole loser parents and the music reflected my attitude till I escaped to college.

Around here now things are just getting better. Life is good.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:52:54 AM EST
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Back when it was happening, they were perhaps arty (the Brecht/Weill side) but very popular across the DFH leftie spectrum (don't see who would have been the cool kids).

I liked them then and still do.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:25:48 AM EST
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Of our elaborate plans, the end.
Of everything that stands, the end.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:52:59 AM EST
It's not so bad.
by stevesim on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 05:57:48 AM EST
Blinding light at the moment.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:03:16 AM EST
Oh, it's the sun peeping through the clouds.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:03:43 AM EST
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to the end of the world, after all.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:17:16 AM EST
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So this is the way the world ends
Not with a Bing, but with a Twitter
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:26:48 AM EST
Or in financial terms, not with a Bung but with a Whip-round

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:02:12 AM EST
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So over at Washington the plan B also failed. The GOP seems totally paralysed, any ideas where this can lead to?

Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:50:09 AM EST
Initially, over the cliff. Unless Obama gets desperate to make a deal, but I'm not sure anyone will now be left in DC to talk to before New Year.

Frankly, Boehner's failure is a huge relief for the Dems after Obama's disastrous offer earlier this week. But I fear to imagine what Obama might offer to give away so's he can be all parti-zany.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:58:09 AM EST
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Fiscal cliff: were the Mayans right after all?

America's government chose not to govern yesterday, as Republican House Speaker John Boehner cancelled a tax vote in Congress because he calculated that he didn't have the votes to pass it. The result: America now looks set to go over the fiscal cliff. The Mayans might have been wrong about the end of the world, but they might be on target about the end of John Boehner's career. Aside from being very bad news for America's economy, this is a disaster for Republicans.


Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 08:11:37 AM EST
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So let's see : by making the Repugs an offer they couldn't refuse, did Obama cleverly double-bluff them into doubling down and holding out for more, thus making them responsible for the tumble off the cliff?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 08:51:05 AM EST
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The Republicans fell victim to one of the classic blunders...

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:09:12 AM EST
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A land war in asia?

Or is Obama now suddenly a sicilian?

by IM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:24:41 AM EST
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they've done the land war in Asia, so I guess it must be the latter

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:30:07 AM EST
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If he did, it's one of the greatest political bluffs of all time. But, he has a track record which suggests he just got lucky

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:15:33 AM EST
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Let's apply Occam's razor to that: the Republicans are simply dumb.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:22:06 AM EST
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Even Jennifer Rubin, Romney's most faithful supporter  at WaPo, cannot bear it anymore

WaPo - Jennifer Rubin - Boehner Plan B: House Republicans humiliate their leader

   The outcome stunned House leadership: In one vote (or nonvote), the all-or-nothing crowd handed the high ground back to the president, who can now rightly claim that House Republicans would rather raise everyone's taxes than raise them on millionaires.
[....]
    This sort of display suggests Republicans are not capable of governing. What was an argument by Democrats (They are unreasonable! They only care for the rich!) is now a political reality.
[....]
    What we do know is that House Republicans may have confirmed the good judgment of the American people in keeping divided government. Goodness knows none of these people can be trusted.

h/t Addison @ dKos

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:28:34 AM EST
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the Republicans are simply dumb.

It is the triumph of the Koch brothers. The Republican Party is drowning in Tea Party foam. But it doesn't really matter, because Big Money owns both parties and The Media. The USA has been controlled through government based propaganda since our entry into WW I.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:01:28 PM EST
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Yup.

Cock-up over conspiracy every time.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:25:20 PM EST
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Nope, I think this is really the GOP melting down. I believe here in Europe Roehner would have resigned, he was totally humiliated by congressmen that between tax hikes and tax cuts perfer the latter, simply because the latter is more protective of the wealthier. From every angle, watering this Plan B was a huge strategic mistake.

Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:37:35 AM EST
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Check out this infography at WST. The takes hikes coming are much harder on folk with lower income than on millionaires. That's why the GOP prefers the fiscall cliff, it is the most benefical solution for wealthier.

Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:50:22 AM EST
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It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:04:48 AM EST
This Mayan apocalypse bullshit is a great distraction from the fact that we're being shafted by our betters.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:05:13 AM EST
This Mayan apocalypse bullshit is a great distraction from the fact that we're being shafted by our betters.

Is that what you call them. I have other words.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:55:48 AM EST
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I am, of course, being ironic.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 08:48:11 AM EST
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Back in the mid '70s, drawing on the 'wisdom' of the retort "If you're so smart why ain't you rich?", I commented to a friend/supervisor: "By that standard J. Paul Getty must be the smartest man in the world." A company where both of us had worked had designed an early 'surround sound' system at the Getty Mansion back in the mid '60s and continued to supervise the operation. Alarmed, he responded: "That couldn't be true!" "Might as well be." was my response.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:15:29 PM EST
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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 09:17:13 AM EST

More on the other side of the movie: "Baktun the Future"

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 10:49:14 AM EST
Dutch impound Steve Jobs superyacht over unpaid bill | The Raw Story

Steve Jobs' Dutch-built superyacht has been impounded in Amsterdam because of a dispute between the late Apple founder's estate and designer Philippe Starck over an unpaid bill, a Starck lawyer said Friday.

"The yacht has been impounded," Rotterdam-based lawyer Roelant Klaassen, who represents French designer Starck's Ubik company, told AFP.

"There is some unfinished business, namely two invoices which were issued by Ubik last summer after Mr Jobs died," he said.

The Daily Mail has pictures:

Steve Jobs' custom-built superyacht impounded over £7million unpaid bill to designer Phillipe Starck | Mail Online

A superyacht built for Apple CEO Steve Jobs has been impounded in Amsterdam because of a dispute over an unpaid bill to designer Philippe Starck.

Jobs, who died last year after making his name and fortune at Apple, never got to use the yacht - called Venus - but had commissioned the French designer to work on the vessel, which cost more than €100m (£80m) to build.

A lawyer representing Starck's company Ubik said his client had received €6m (£4.8m) out of a €9m commission for his work on the minimalist vessel and was now seeking to recover the rest of what he was owed.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:26:01 PM EST
You don't get ultra-rich by paying the bills of your conspicious consumption.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 06:33:08 AM EST
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Wayne LaPierre executive vice-president of the National Rifle Association held a press conference public rant (no questions allowed) and blamed gun-free elementary schools, gun-free zones, media, videos, video games, Hollywood, music, hurricanes, natural disasters, and the lack of a national database of the mentally ill.  

His solution is for the NRA to create a program to put armed security guards in schools.

Hilarity, and incredulity, is spreading across the US blog-o-sphere.


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:26:55 PM EST
Quite incredible. But will it be enough to actually convince legislators to do something which is actually effective ? And do something the repugs won't immediately repeal should they return to power.

ell, if you had a functioning govt, then perhaps. But I think DC is totally broken

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 12:41:46 PM EST
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Yep, didn't see that one coming...
by Bernard on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:22:31 PM EST
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While the NRA Was on TV Talking About the Need for More Guns Some Guy Was Walking Up and Down a Road in Pennsylvania Shooting People:

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," said NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre.

But before they could finish their sentence, the counterargument made itself as news broke of a mass shooting event in Pennsylvania with multiple casualties, including state troopers.

According to local reports out of Blair County, at least four people were killed and five more were injured in a shooting spree near Altoona. The gunman is said to be among the dead, and at least two state troopers were hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries.



Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:05:52 PM EST
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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 01:46:58 PM EST
Looks like everyone's gone out.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 03:45:54 PM EST
Eat, drink, and be merry! Dance the night away! Tomorrow...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:02:27 PM EST
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... we wake up with one of the queens.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:47:17 PM EST
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Saw a history of the Oglala Sioux in German on sale at a bookstore today.  Only $2.  (Such a deal.)


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:42:57 PM EST
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"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:57:38 PM EST
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I am still waiting on the decision about that job interview.  It was supposed to be decided on Monday, then Wednesday, then today.  Now, I believe it won't be till after the holidays.  This is killing me.

The person who would be my superior is a real ass - he initially scheduled the interview for 8 a.m. and the headhunter, having to come in from Basel would have had to leave at 6:00 to get there on time.  So, I know it's a power trip for him but it is still driving me crazy.

by stevesim on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 04:47:13 PM EST
That sucks.

I had not one, but two declines from interesting jobs yesterday. Well, at least they had the decency to make a decision before the holidays and tell me.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 06:40:33 AM EST
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Sorry to hear it.  
by stevesim on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 09:44:06 AM EST
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Are you all dead or what?

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 06:45:02 PM EST
Can't speak for all of course, but judging from the activity at the Middle Ages Markt, and the surprise visit from the Queen, i would tend to err on the what side.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:00:48 PM EST
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Merkel was there?



Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:12:14 PM EST
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No, the real queen.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:40:48 PM EST
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I have no idea who that person is.


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:45:33 PM EST
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Miss Sophie, Silvester Queen.  Came from Berlin to surprise me.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:59:46 PM EST
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I've never been to Bremen but after seeing these pics, I have to.  It's so beautiful!
by stevesim on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 09:44:51 AM EST
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Tried to make a meet here, timing was wrong. Next year. Meanwhile, here's a small portion of the normal weihnachtsmarkt

and perhaps posted before, but here's the Mittelalter Weihnachtsmarkt, ganz Zauberhaft, completely magical. (even better with snow!)



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 10:22:57 AM EST
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Gorgeous.  Feast for the eyes!

Thank you.

by stevesim on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 10:48:02 AM EST
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The correct term is suspended animation. Though that could also refer to the first few seconds after saying goodbye to the hangman.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 06:47:58 AM EST
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"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Dec 21st, 2012 at 07:33:42 PM EST


"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 22nd, 2012 at 10:26:20 AM EST


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