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by afew Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 11:26:21 AM EST

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 11:27:55 AM EST
The Fête des Lumières, which is always held on the weekend closest to 8 December. (Not to be confused with the Festival Lumière, which is cinema and October).

Also will check out the Christmas Market, which is a pale imitation of the Strasbourg one.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:11:30 PM EST
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:16:15 PM EST
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SOMEday I'm going to be live and in person for that most wonderful of public shows.  I'll also make the Strasbourg market.  Hope you had a wonderful time.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 05:08:35 AM EST
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Police strip-search teens over missing €5 - The Local

Police officers who forced teenage students to strip, some of them completely naked, in the hunt for a stolen €5 at a school in Munich are now being investigated themselves after pupils and their parents complained.

Teachers stood by while the children were strip-searched, the Süddeutsche Zeitung newspaper reported on Monday.

Police offers were at the Friedrich-List Economics School last Tuesday to talk to a class of 27 students aged 13 and 14 about moral courage in a public setting, when one girl complained that €5 was missing from her jacket pocket.

This prompted the youth liaison officer to call for back-up and organize a strip-search of the teenagers. Four officers split the pupils according to gender and searched them in separate classrooms.

"Some of the schoolgirls had to briefly open their bras, while some schoolboys had their underpants searched," police spokesman Wolfgang Wenger told the paper.

One 14-year-old boy told the paper a police officer had looked up his backside with a torch - after he had initially refused to take his underpants off.

(...) The police stressed that none of the students were forced to take off all their clothes, and that the strip-search had taken place only after checking with the school authorities.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:13:09 PM EST
"[...] only after checking with the school authorities."

Oh, that's OK then.

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by Number 6 on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:22:38 PM EST
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Did they even find the €5?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:53:30 PM EST
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Of course not. They didn't find any other €5 either, fortunately. For, how do you know it is "the" €5?
by Katrin on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:58:34 PM EST
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So, what did the police do to the false accuser?

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:03:48 PM EST
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I can personally attest to how easy it is to lose paper currency from a pocket.  How they decided in the first place that it must have been stolen rather than lost is beyond me. And how they could have thought that any 5 euro note on someone else would have been THE 5 euro note in question is also beyond me. Would they really have used public resources to conduct fingerprint tests on it, for instance?

This story is so packed with absurdities that I'm surprised there was no coverup.  ALL the adults in question must have been dosed with experimental drugs ahead of the episode.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 05:13:52 AM EST
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Banknotes go through many hands. Even fingerprints would have proved nothing.

I am afraid this is really a case of fools who have to be removed from the police force.

by oliver on Sun Dec 9th, 2012 at 07:26:01 PM EST
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Was there any €5?

Not long ago, at a junior high school here, a boy I know was accused by another pupil of stealing a cheque from the office of the deputy head in charge of discipline (double crime since this is a sacred place). The deputy head then discovered that a CD of his was missing and accused the same boy of stealing it. This boy had no other disciplinary problems at school, though the deputy head considered that he had a "surly manner" (boy of 14, duh).

The principal and deputy called in the gendarmes, as the batshit security policy now is. The boy was interrogated for an hour, shut off in a room with two gendarmes. His parents were not consulted nor even informed.

At this point, other gendarmes discovered that the accuser had attempted to exchange the cheque for cash in a nearby restaurant. So boy 1 was off the hook for the cheque. The deputy head still maintained he had stolen a CD. Then the deputy head found the CD was in his car all along.

No apologies were forthcoming. This is how school "discipline" can be conducted these days.

But the French are, as is well known, too permissive. The gendarmes should have strip-searched him out in the yard. That would have driven the lesson home. Or something.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:21:13 PM EST
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The morality play goes on, and you may contribute a verse. (With apologies to Walt Whitman and Robin Williams)

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:52:48 PM EST
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When I was 14 I usually kept bills in my wallet, not in my undergarments. But maybe that was just me.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 02:44:35 PM EST
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Wierdo !!! ;-))

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 03:03:21 AM EST
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looks like people who wandered off after a sauna, to have a little think in peace...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:19:21 PM EST
source

The picture was taken last winter in Finnish Lapland where weather can include sub-freezing temperatures and driving snow. Surreal landscapes sometimes result, where common trees become cloaked in white and so appear, to some, as watchful aliens or bizarre statues.

Image Credit & Copyright: Niccolò Bonfadini

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:22:58 PM EST
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Love this kind of thing.  Own a painting by a local artist that a viewer would swear was an Abstract.  Not so.  It's a relentlessly Realist 'take' on the phenomena.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:21:35 PM EST
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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 05:04:19 PM EST
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Fail City rises to the occasion:



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:36:55 PM EST


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 12:39:48 PM EST
Lord Monckton 'mistaken' for Sacha Baron Cohen by Australian satirist | Leo Hickman | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Lord Monckton is an excellent showman. No one - not even himself - would begrudge him that. He has that rare ability to captivate a crowd and bedazzle them with his famous (some would say infamous) slideshows detailing his unique interpretations of climate science. He actively courts attention and many people, particularly in the US and Australia, oblige him with feverish adoration.

Somewhat inevitably, his bombast and grandiosity act as a magnet for satire and send-up. In 2009, a Melbourne-based English MC called Hugo Farrant brilliantly lampooned both Monckton and his nemesis Al Gore in a spoof "rap battle", which is still harvesting hits on YouTube.

But now someone's gone a step further by dragging Monckton himself into the joke - albeit without Ukip's head of research seemingly realising that he is the object of mockery. An Australian comedian called Craig Reucassel has produced a sketch for ABC's The Chaser, a popular team of TV satirists who have a tradition of "punking" famous faces. It only aired in Australia two days ago as part of a new series called The Hamster Wheel and - at the time of writing - has already attracted nearly 300,000 views on YouTube.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:30:43 PM EST
Both these ceebs videos are great, but the  Lord Monkton one is brilliant.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 10:31:46 AM EST
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Looking on the Middle Ages Xmas Markt am Schlachte.

PS. involved in a deal, no time for ET Sadly, except short review.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 7th, 2012 at 06:59:44 PM EST
Dang, now there's ANOTHER one I have to try to schedule. What is it about pretty lights on very old buildings?

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 05:26:22 AM EST
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I tried to clean my cookies yesterday, and basically it seems to be impossible - they come back right away. Go onto any information site and you'll get 30 new cookies right away.

I have the setting "do not allow cookies from ad sites or third parties" but that seems completely inefficient (why? Am I missing something?). You can do "refuse all cookies" because then most sites are then closed to you.

So anyway, I've deleted all 3,000 sites with cookies or other stuff, and expect to do the same more regularly (already 100 back now), but is there a better way?

(What annoyed me in the first place is that I went to read an article on some random local US paper about a piece of wind power news, and saw at the bottom that I was offered to comment with my facebook identify. I haven't logged in on facebook on weeks, and yet, here I was, already pre-identified (and presumably facebook knows I went to that site too)

Is there nothing to do which is not completely radical?

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 08:42:31 AM EST
I get that facebook login too, however I do not have a facebook account. Often they also offer that you can use your google, facebook or other logins instead of creating one at that site.

I haven't found a solution for the cookies yet, despite using a filter that should sites from planting cookies in my browser. I would be interested for Windows and Firefox solutions too.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 08:54:14 AM EST
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I'm interested in expert opinion as well. I can't answer what to do.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 10:30:57 AM EST
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have you logged out of facebook?  

also log out of gmail if you have an account there.

by stevesim on Sun Dec 9th, 2012 at 01:51:22 PM EST
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Have you tried CCleaner?

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter
by generic on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 at 07:03:45 AM EST
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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 10:20:56 AM EST
My day is now almost complete. ;-)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 at 10:30:14 AM EST
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