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by afew Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:11:47 AM EST


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Some people got the world on fast backward.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:12:35 AM EST
Like me. i spent 20 minutes trying to discover what spy software was installed on my laptop, and why did it want me to click on the giant green button.

Then...

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:25:25 PM EST
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Did you see it jump when you clicked on it?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:38:46 PM EST
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Yes, realizing too late that i had already clicked on it.

Pavlov.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:42:58 PM EST
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François Hollande seeks to reassure UK and City of London | World news | The Guardian
French presidential frontrunner says he wants UK back in heart of Europe and finance sector need not fear new regulation.

François Hollande, the Socialist favourite to become the next president of France, said he wants to woo Britain back into the heart of Europe and sought to reassure the City of London it should not fear his drive for more regulation of the financial world.

"We need Britain to feel part of Europe," Hollande told British correspondents ahead of a high-profile visit to London next week. But he added that France could never have accepted David Cameron's attempt to create a "sanctuary" from financial regulation for the City of London in the new European treaty.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:25:15 AM EST
Sounds like verbal words to me...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:27:56 AM EST
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Is there any such thing as a non-verbal word?  heh.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:32:16 PM EST
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A noun?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:37:52 PM EST
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Verbal:
1. Of, relating to, or associated with words: a detailed verbal description.
2.a. Concerned with words only rather than with content or ideas: a merely verbal distinction.
  b. Consisting of words alone without action: a verbal confrontation.

  1. Expressed in spoken rather than written words; oral: a verbal contract.

  2. Corresponding word for word; literal: a verbal translation.

  3. Grammar
   a. Relating to, having the nature or function of, or derived from a verb.
   b. Used to form verbs: a verbal suffix.

6. Of or relating to proficiency in the use and understanding of words: a verbal aptitude test.

n. Grammar
A verbal noun or adjective.

I know, I know, the common usage now is for verbal to apply to action words and things spoken, but in law school they always emphasized that we should distinguish between "oral" and "verbal," with Oral meaning "spoken aloud" and Verbal meaning "with words."


'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:55:12 PM EST
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I sit collapsed.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:01:50 PM EST
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You do not!

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 01:48:11 AM EST
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1001101011110011

and with that, my job here is done.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:45:23 PM EST
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Surely you have to speculate on Santorum winning Michigan first.
Then your job is done.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 01:16:06 PM EST
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Santorum is going to win Michigan because the MI GOP is made up of ass-backwards hicks who spend their days fantasizing about overthrowing the government while playing soldier in the woods, and who laugh when Mittens talks about "hunting" "small varmints".

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:58:06 PM EST
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Santorum is also going to win because a bunch of those back-woods hicks are more worried about Mormons than Catholics. What they should be worried about is what the RC church would do if it could only get a guy like Santorum in charge--especially with a compliant, Tea Party fearing Congress...

Murder triggers the death penalty, abortion is murder, and birth control is abortion...

by asdf on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:32:00 PM EST
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It still baffles me that Santorum says those kinds of things out loud.  Can he not afford handlers who can teach him to lie about it?

I don't think it's the Mormon thing though.  I think the Mormon thing will hurt him in the South if it's going to hurt him anywhere.  Mittens just doesn't seem able to connect with the Midwest, and I think it's because, whatever the merits to his candidacy relative to other GOPers, Mittens comes across as a naive rich kid who's never had to work a day in his life.

I'd be curious to see a regional breakdown within the state polling.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:06:35 PM EST
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Been two primaries in Mid West states and the "Marquis de Mittens" is 0 for 2.

Says something one of the losses was a win in '08.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:43:46 PM EST
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0 for 3, isn't it?  Iowa, Minnesota and Missouri.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:50:09 PM EST
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I consider Missouri a border state, YMMV O Son of the South.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:52:49 PM EST
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Fair point.  

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 07:03:52 PM EST
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It still baffles me that Santorum says those kinds of things out loud.  Can he not afford handlers who can teach him to lie about it?

but it's saying those things that is making him popular. While we can sit back and think that this stuff should be electoral poison, in the current GOP this is purest cat nip.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 02:31:26 AM EST
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BTW: How the hell did Santorum win your state?  That still just seems totally fucked up.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:43:10 PM EST
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How the hell did Santorum win [Colorado]?

He got more votes than the other guys.

:-)

I haven't seen post-election polling but my considered opinion is the Focus on the Family and the other Evangelical/Conservative organizations got their sheep to vote Frothy.  Look here (HuffPo alert!) El Paso county, for exammple, where FotF has their HQ in Colorado Springs, shifted 2,000 votes from Mittens to Frothy.  That pretty much sums up what happened.

 

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 07:00:31 PM EST
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As I may have mentioned before, the Evangelical community absolutely can not stand Romney, specifically because he is a Mormon. He also has problems with his track record, variable positions, etc., but the basic problem around here is that the "Christian" community--which consists of Protestant Fundamentalists--simply can't stand the thought of a Mormon as President.

Santorum is a much better bet in their eyes, partly because the Roman Catholics have been pretty subdued since Vatican II, and partly because the fundamentalists don't read history and have no idea of what their churches are actually all about...

by asdf on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 09:40:48 PM EST
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Just got back from the Woman's Club Valentine bake sale and brought you all a piece of yummy fresh apple, sour cream, walnut coffee cake, and  cupcakes with fresh pineapples and cream cheese frosting.  Had my eye on a rum cake, but didn't want to kill the person who got to it first. Well, I resisted the urge....  
by ElaineinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:59:41 PM EST
Should be delicious with your cello shots.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 01:19:02 PM EST
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Take AT down there next time to be your doughty champion, that'll change him from talking to us like a computer.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:03:40 PM EST
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Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:08:26 PM EST
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Rats.

That was supposed to be a reply to Helen, below.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:09:16 PM EST
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Such ham fistedness only proves that your best proven function is to carry cake

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:14:05 PM EST
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The error was caused by low blood sugar which is a result of being too hungry because I am waiting for somebody (no names, please) to stop fucking around so we can go to lunch.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:17:56 PM EST
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If you'd carried cake you could've snuck a bit here and there, and then you wouldn't be hungry.  You've no one to blame but yourself here, AT.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:44:56 PM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:21:13 PM EST
They're harder to move when you break them.  Just FYI.

/ducks

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:54:06 PM EST
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Well there easier to carry six feet to the bin in a dustpan rather than up two flights of stairs :)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 04:14:06 PM EST
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Too true. I once had a set of old patio chairs that I wasn't looking forward to dragging down the stairs, so we just tossed them over the balcony.  So much easier for the back. I'm contemplating a move of several thousand miles at the moment if job prospects come through. I think I may have to start looking for tossable objects again.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 04:41:44 PM EST
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I wish I could've done that with my wife's old tube tv when we were moving, but, alas, tvs are a bit too explodey to chuck over the balcony.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:57:58 PM EST
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Shoulda joined that rock and roll band...

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 02:26:48 AM EST
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It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 03:29:06 AM EST
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In a parallel universe imagined by a mouse (and reciprocally), but where universal dysfunction had afflicted the mouse with AD causing highly increased instability and vulnerability to exogenous shocks, a furniture shifter whom we shall call sbeec for obvious reasons of anonymity and/or universal chaos was engaged, grabbing his phone at each momentary rest interval, in an Internet chat game of ping-pong with (let's say, for similar obvious reasons, wefa), such that:

sbeec: backhand topspin serve keeping low to table corner
wefa: backhand slice breaking strongly to right on bounce
sbeec: approximate swipe fortunately returning to corner
wefa: desperate high return
sbeec: smash
wefa: Qxe6 ! check
sbeec: professor plum in the library with the lead pipe
wefa: (shows lead pipe card)

And then...

The lead pipe dunnit, or was it the smash?

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:43:27 AM EST
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I'm sure it wasn't just one wefa thin mint that did it

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:30:50 PM EST
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It wasn't after eight anyway.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:34:11 PM EST
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I do keep my hum,bug to a minimum

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 05:06:23 PM EST
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Over 40 years of experience with computer engineering: hardware, software, micro-coding, system design, system architecture design, and what am I doing?

A secretary's job.

(mutter, grrrrrrrrrr, mutter, mutter)

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 02:54:21 PM EST
And to think you could be doing something useful, like carrying cake

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:06:47 PM EST
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Oh don't complain AT. Your secretary's job there doesn't sound too bad, seems like you have a pretty nice boss. ;-)
by sgr2 on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 04:57:40 PM EST
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Nah.  He's a intrusive, petty, cranky, controlling, jerk in the Major & Flaming sub-category.  Even at one in the morning he bugs me that I'm not working, I didn't get enough done during the day, I waste too much time at a stupid Scoop blog, and on & on on & on on & on on & on on & on on & on on.

I'd tell me to take this job and shove it but I need the money.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:49:14 PM EST
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Well, all's well that ends well. Returning home was quite anti-climactic, Sofia was crisp cold and decidedly not snowing. So, no problems getting to or away from the airport. Even the Dartford tunnel approach was strangely quiet.

tomorrow i have to deal with stuff

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 03:09:33 PM EST
Pressure mounting for GOP caucus reconsideration -- Politics -- Bangor Daily News -- BDN Maine

Pressure is on the Maine Republican Party to reconsider its weekend declaration that Mitt Romney won the state's caucuses.

The Maine GOP announced Saturday that Romney narrowly edged Ron Paul, 39 percent to 36 percent, in a nonbinding presidential preference poll taken during the caucuses. The margin was fewer than 200 votes.

A number of communities were not included in that poll because they had not held their caucuses in time. Washington County Republicans postponed their caucuses, originally scheduled for Saturday, Feb. 11, because of a pending snowstorm and will now meet this Saturday. Other communities across the states also have caucuses scheduled for this weekend and later this month.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 04:33:41 PM EST
Popping in to say hello, after not being here for many months. I hope you are all doing well. That poor glass table, though....
by lychee on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:05:51 PM EST
Im looking at it as possibly saving a little old lady buying it who placed a bowl of hot soup on it and it proceeded to explode.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 05:51:08 PM EST
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Aw, ceebs, you don't have to say "little old lady" --  you can use my name.

(I actually did explode a glass panel once.)

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2012 at 06:22:14 PM EST
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And think of the shipping costs he saved you by breaking it for you. You really owe him.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 03:33:13 AM EST
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Follow-up on Sarkozy's right turn, here is the lovely referendum poll question for visitors to the UMP website:

"For a more efficient fight against delinquent acts committed by a fringe of the population which has turned violation of criminal law into its habitual way of life, should foreigners responsible for such deeds be deported?"

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:00:01 AM EST
All crimes in France are perpetrated by foreigners; well known fact: no true Frenchman would do such a thing
by Bernard on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:25:34 PM EST
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All crimes outside France are committed by foreigners, too.

Where's the sense then in deporting foreigners from France? It makes the police's job so much easier, knowing for sure who are the criminal types.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:30:16 PM EST
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by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:38:01 PM EST
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Innocent.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:38:37 PM EST
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And, for some of the poll respondents, probably rather foreign...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 04:58:44 PM EST
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