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by afew Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:48:50 AM EST

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:49:12 AM EST
You might have an earlier version by the Chambers Bros in your head. But this one's aimed at Yurp.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:55:30 AM EST
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by stevesim on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 12:37:01 PM EST
Yea, but actually if a yank claims they've not heard of england we'd just go "yea, figures, you being a yank an' all..."

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:03:14 PM EST
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From the US-onian side, this is fun to do as there's a five to ten second look on the person's face: bemused, baffled, brain-go-tilt, that is totally worth it.  

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:09:00 PM EST
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"Aren't you the people who eat ketchup-soaked beans on toast for breakfast?  That's fucked up."

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:52:48 PM EST
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"Oh-ah. Only the lower classes. Ah."
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:57:25 PM EST
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Aren't you the one who was, not too long ago, advocating poisoning people with wild-picked toadstools?

And snails.  ((Too. (Also.)))


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:05:32 PM EST
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"Oh. A French chappie I believe. Ah."
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:06:39 PM EST
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No!!!!  That's a Finnish thing.

My favorite new breakfast vice is bread with cheese, all melty from being on the top of the woodstove.  But don't tell himself...he's panicked that I'm going to start a grease fire in the living room and burn down the house. :) OK, so after an incident that we don't want to disucss, I now put a layer of aluminum foil under the bread.  

by ElaineinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:27:10 PM EST
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Many years ago I took a band that I had produced out to dinner at a semi-swish restaurant after a gold record ceremony. The kitchen had closed, but we persuaded the chef to stay on to cook 8 dinners (two roadies were present). The chef poured in his heart and skills, and after about an hour (and some beers) the plates arrived.

"Where's the Felix?" (a brand of ketchup). As the tomato-shaped Felix plastic bottles farted and gurgled across 7 plates, the chef went to find a very sharp knife...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 03:12:56 AM EST
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There is this, and this or this and this and this.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:21:21 PM EST
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Interesting story about possible espionage connected to the supplier for the steel for the San Francisco Bay Bridge.   SF GATE


There's a politically awkward but intriguing link between a former Caltrans employee accused of trying to smuggle U.S. satellite technology to China and the Chinese company making the new Bay Bridge eastern span.
....
Besides working on the Bay Bridge, He allegedly moonlighted as the only employee of an electronic-instrument company on Webster Street in downtown Oakland.
....
Yang said the two men got out of their cars and exchanged pleasantries, when suddenly Department of Homeland Security agents descended on them and asked which one was He.

"He answered, and so they booked him right there," Yang said. "I thought it was a mistake."

You might remember that the Chinese steel company involved, ZPMC (government owned) fabricated the steel section which fell and damaged the structure. They were chosen for low cost.

Interesting connection? It's the same steel company who provided the faulty monopiles for the Greater Gabbard offshore wind project. Multi-national FLUOR heads both projects. Hah.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:10:31 PM EST
The magical and invisible guiding hand of the marketplace will take care of these problems. In the meantime, every citizen must be familiar with the steel supplier for highway bridges, to make an individual--but informed--decision about whether it's safe to cross. The contractor information is in the public domain, so there should be no complaint about this situation...
by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:15:40 PM EST
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In other industrial news, you're all aware that a cruise ship owned by the same company as the sunk Concordia (which has conveniently dropped from the news), is adrift off the Seychelles.

Fire in the engine room. All propulsion lost. Way to plan, free market. Imagine if that ship was in the middle of the Pacific.

and it's also a big one.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:28:31 PM EST
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"There are 636 passengers and 413 crew on board the Costa Allegra"

No wonder cruises are so expensive.

by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:49:48 PM EST
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412 crew if the captain's abandoned ship

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:55:14 PM EST
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Captains may sometimes slip and fall into the lifeboat, but they never abandon ship.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:05:50 PM EST
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I have actually spent quite a bit of time on freighters and know quite a few captains in the merchant marine (although that doesn't exist anymore).  they take the safety of their crew and their vessel quite seriously.

or at least they used to until they outsourced the whole industry to Asia.

by stevesim on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:21:47 PM EST
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Is it possible to take an old-fashioned freighter trip any more? Every time I look into this, it's container ships with luxury accommodations for a dozen people at $5000 per trip. Are there still conventional freighters in service, and do they take passengers?

Really pissed that I didn't do this in the 1970s when one of my cousins was a freighter captain...

by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:08:36 PM EST
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I looked into it a few years ago and it was expensive for the trans-Atlantic trip, like 700$.  The crews really like having new people aboard and the food was really good but times may have changed.

I just suggest you do some investigating because the whole industry has fallen into the cost cutting mode and many ships are rust buckets, the crews not paid even though they are all from Asian countries where the wages are very low, etc.  Health and safety were usually paramount for all shipping companies.  I am not sure that is the case any longer.

I had a few friends who were captains and I got a chance to make some interesting trips but never crossed an ocean -  just went from  North to South America a few times through the Panama canal.  

by stevesim on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:16:25 PM EST
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try this site for more info

http://freighterworld.com/

I would like to do the canals of France and Europe as well by barge

by stevesim on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:19:29 PM EST
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Barging's not too expensive (at least not 4 years ago) when you go in a group of about 6 people.  You want to go with people you really get along with, though.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:10:08 PM EST
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Yeah, that's on my list, too. Quote from clueless S.O.: "Why in the world would you want to take a slow, cramped boat through the back side of every run-down industrial town in the county on a smelly and unsanitary canal, when you can just drive?"

I will now return to my library of Swallows and Amazons books and dream about living as a member of the 1% in pre-war Britain...

by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:55:29 PM EST
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asdf:
I will now return to my library of Swallows and Amazons books and dream about living as a member of the 1% in pre-war Britain...

those were great! had and loved them all...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 06:47:19 PM EST
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Ha! S.O. clearly hasn't seen some of the countryside around the UK's canals.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 09:14:35 PM EST
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I will live on a barge.
French canals are almost without exception in amazing landscapes. Because they are small-gauge, dating from 17th century onwards, they are pretty useless for actual shipping, therefore devoted to pleasure boating.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 02:11:58 AM EST
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Absolutely beautiful, lots of lovely grazing animals along the way, you can step off and walk along and pick wild berries to make a cobbler and stop in lovely little villages to get additional supplies or eat at a cafe or restaurant.  When you're with people you enjoy, and there are some good cooks aboard, and you have a nice captain, it's an unbeatable trip.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 06:32:18 AM EST
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You should have a chat with Geezer in Paris...

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 06:44:45 AM EST
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Cold in winter, even if you stay on the canal du
 midi.

Plus all boaters are drinkers, heavy drinkers. If you can't sink a litre of wine and walk straight you are in for heavy weather when socialising

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 06:59:34 AM EST
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I know somebody who took one to Europe a few months ago, so the answer is yes. Don't do it if you're on a tight schedule.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:34:36 PM EST
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This is a recc'd diary from dKos about creating gas/petrol from biomass, does anyone know if this is for real ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:16:07 PM EST
Sounds extremely bogus to me. You can make gasoline/petrol from any organic starting point, but the problem is to do so at a reasonable cost.
by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:10:07 PM EST
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and you can make ethanol with the right kind of biomass (higher sugar content). Certain kinds of plant oils are readily catalyzed into diesel fuel. I'm doubting gasoline - at least in terms of cost, because the current least-cost process is to distill them out of oils with highly complex molecules already in situ.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:43:48 PM EST
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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:18:59 PM EST
We have just had In The Next Room here in Colorado Springs.

This play centers on Catherine Givings, a young wife and mother played with breezy charm by Stephanie Philo. Catherine is something of a scatterbrain, but she feels things deeply, especially the lack of attention from her husband Dr. Givings...

Adding to Catherine's troubles is the fact that Dr. Givings has been finding great success with his "electric massage machine." Tightly corseted housewives step into his office feeling frustrated and depressed, but step out completely rejuvenated, enjoying a physical and emotional release that Catherine can only long for.

http://www.csindy.com/IndyBlog/archives/2012/02/06/review-in-the-next-room-or-the-vibrator-play

by asdf on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:59:25 PM EST
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steam punk vibrator

Needs no electricity

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:07:24 PM EST
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Don't be prudes now. let's all celebrate the masculine engineering capabilities in service to the feminine.

/snark

wouldn't need all that engineering if we were more attentive. wouldn't need to be more attentive if they'd just put some tinfoil under the damned melted sandwich. have to protect the living room, where the remote resides.

/snark?snark

had to make a comment, because the docu on russian freedom movement suddenly was too much for the aging laptop, and the screen went black. (without crashing, as i didn't restart after pulling the antenna, and here i is.)

i'll be right there sweet.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 06:19:44 PM EST
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Beate Klarsfeld: Germany's next president? | Germany | DW.DE | 27.02.2012
The Left party would like to see Beate Klarsfeld become Germany's next president. That makes the 73-year-old "Nazi hunter" the sole challenger to Joachim Gauck, the candidate of all the other parties.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 01:58:54 PM EST
no, not that woman, anyone but her.  I hate people who are obsessives about anything and that describes her to a "t"
by stevesim on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:23:02 PM EST
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Any chance some of the CDU could be persuaded to vote for her? She supports Sarkozy, after all....
Die Kandidatin für das Amt des Bundespräsidenten der Partei ,,Die Linke", Beate Klarsfeld, hat ihre Sympathie für den konservativen französischen Präsidenten Nicolas Sarkozy bekundet. ,,Wir unterstützen Sarkozy, das sage ich offen", sagte Frau Klarsfeld bei ihrem ersten öffentlichen Auftritt nach der Bekanntgabe ihrer Kandidatur am Mittwoch in Berlin mit Blick auf den derzeitigen Präsidentschaftswahlkampf in Frankreich.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Mar 1st, 2012 at 12:51:46 PM EST
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Germany's new federal volunteer scheme blooms | Germany | DW.DE | 27.02.2012

Germany's new volunteer scheme is exceeding all expectations, having filled nearly all its 35,000 vacancies in eight months. But the government will not consider expanding the plan.

"We've had enormous success, which no one was expecting," said Jens Kreuter, director of the task force for voluntary services in Germany's Family Ministry.

When the voluntary services came into force on July 1, 2011, no one knew whether there would be enough applicants willing to commit themselves full-time for between 300 and 500 euros ($400 - $670) a month.

The new voluntary scheme was created to compensate for Germany's decision to scrap its national service along with conscription into the armed forces. Before then, every young German male who did not pass muster for the army, or who opted out, was obliged to complete national service.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:02:46 PM EST
Well, how does that work ? I'd hardly have thought 300 euros a month was much more than unemployment

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:47:00 PM EST
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This is probably a set-up, or misleading subtitling, but amusing in its own way.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:39:12 PM EST
was dropped into the NI/Cops defence of their conduct. Their lies are fully exposed, and there will be more arrests, perhaps many more. Cameron has more trouble on the way Coulson-wise. This all adds on nicely to the A4E scandal surrounding a very greedy woman who he "welcomed into the family".

It is getting close to catastrophic for Rupert too - exposing him in the US where it will really hurt.

</handrub with glee>

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 02:55:33 PM EST
In all your years away, you've evidently forgotten the many ways the Establishment ensure that nothing they do ever faces serious sanction.

I refuse to believe anything will come of it. They are doing this just to flaunt their invulnerability

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:05:51 PM EST
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Well Coulson is apparently talking that he expects to see the inside of a Scottish Jail for about five years, but then again he may be the fall guy

Cameron is looking increasingly shaky though, lack of vetting of Coulson, And installing the head of A4E even though there were multiple fraud investigations underway. incompetence and cronyism have to be a weakness.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:45:50 PM EST
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Mere details. If the Establishment ever allowed members of their sect to face the music for the crimes they commit, who could know where it might end ? It is unthinkable that it should happen. Unthinkable.

If Coulson goes down, I bet he goes down alone with the promise of a large amount of money to buy his silence.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:57:58 PM EST
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Personally I think there will be more, I cannot see Brooks not ending up inside as well, the admittance of payment of police officers before parliament  should be enough to put her inside.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:06:22 PM EST
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It's a nice dream, but we'll wake up and find that's all it was; just a dream

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:07:42 PM EST
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I don't think so, Blood will have to be spilled,  and sacrifices made to molify the beast of public opinion. If not that could make people think that the authorities really don't care to the extent they may want to do something about it.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:12:34 PM EST
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Well, we can trade opinions; your hopes against my cynicism. I hope you're right, I fear I will be. Time alone will tell

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:48:26 PM EST
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absolutely.

It's usually me that has to play the cynic role :-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:16:12 PM EST
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Nah, you can count on Helen.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:23:03 PM EST
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Why, thank you {curtsy}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 07:44:26 AM EST
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Never necessary when I'm around. Helen, never knowlingly out-cynicked

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:24:33 PM EST
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I think it's on a knife edge and could go either way.

Of course some of these people should be inside. But the corruption goes deep, and if - hypothetically - some of the material collected during phone hacking could still be relevant and useful for personal leverage, it's going to dampen the enthusiasm of potential investigators.

This has been happening since the 80s. That's a lot of potential dirt about a lot of 'important' people.

I think what may shock the few percent of the population who are awake enough to care is the industrial and systemic scale of the corruption. This isn't a few bad apples - it's a forest of evil.

It's 'Everything you know is wrong' time - just to underline that our glorious VIPs are as morally inspiring as an episode of East Enders.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 09:24:14 PM EST
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For twenty years, whenever I've ended up in drunken conversation with journalists it's almost always finished up with their most outrageous story thats never been published, and its always been claimed that it's somewhere in a safe at News International, and not een published as it's leverage.

Most of them are utterly unprintable as the only reason they would provide any leverage at all is the level that they are libellous.

(there one that involves a Tory Minister sexually assulting the 14 year old son of a Local Lord when he stayed in his constituency, and the Prime Minister at the time transferring him to a post in Europe as Paedophilia was something too much to deal with even for Tory MPs. Another entirely unconnected story from a different on suggests that a bburglar who robbed the same minister came away with a selection of pictures which would prove something similar)

so all outrageous and none provable, but unlikely to be true.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 04:15:29 AM EST
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I don't think the Establishment, as a class described in Anthony Sampson's Anatomy of Britain 1962, exists today. It has been replaced by loose independent gangs that compete nefariously for power. The end effect on  society is probably the same, but the sociopathic world in which the gangs operate can result in turf wars. What we are seeing is the beginning of drive-by shootings, and all the other methods by which gangs of Ivy bikers try to control their territory.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 03:24:43 AM EST
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One hopes.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:55:40 PM EST
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Michael Hudson on the recent MMT gig in Rimini.

And here's a few visuals......



"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 03:16:48 PM EST
Pre-election polling favors Romney to win both Michigan and Arizona tomorrow.

The question is if the voter screens are sufficiently accurate to determine Actual Voters from Most Likely Voters.  This was a problem in the last set-to as Santorum outperformed pre-day polls.  If this holds true tomorrow Santorum should win Michigan and come closeer than expected in Arizona with a long shot at winning there.

IF - note the bigness there - Frothy wins both of 'em, the Romney_Bot 2012 (Rev. 6582c) is up the creek, sans paddle.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:17:28 PM EST
Although I think Obama could beat santorum easily, I think he will have longer coat tails for the House and Senate.

Romney will possibly not alienate the independents so much but will not enthuse the base and so won't get the turnout.

I think the US need Dem majorities in both houses more than Obama to win an overwhelming victory

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 04:47:15 PM EST
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The opportunity to keep the Senate, retake the House, and re-elect Obama is there.  Right now the GOP is going Christo-Taliban All Points Bulletin Jihad against contraception which is moving the women vote +12 for Obama + Coat Tails, since women will be around 52% of the voters in November that pretty much nails it from the Top/Down.  Now the Dems have to nominate some people who aren't Fucked-in-the-Head for House and Senate.

IF the Dems don't screw it up the GOP is going to be in a world of hurt by this time next year.

 

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 05:02:52 PM EST
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Looks like Mittens will take AZ in a walk, but Michigan could be interesting.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 06:13:08 PM EST
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Santorum is actually asking Democrats to vote for him.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 02:23:10 AM EST
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Study: Rich more likely to take candy from babies - The Washington Post

No, this isn't from the Onion:

The "upper class," as defined by the study, were more likely to break the law while driving, take candy from children, lie in negotiation, cheat to increase their odds of winning a prize and endorse unethical behavior at work, researchers reported today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 06:23:36 PM EST


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Mon Feb 27th, 2012 at 07:18:12 PM EST
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The real usefulness of Greek wage slashing:
La compagnie charter Air Méditerranée basée au Fauga, près de Toulouse, s'apprête à licencier 85 personnes. Elle propose à une trentaine de ses salariés un reclassement dans sa filiale grecque Hermès Airlines, provoquant la colère du syndicat national des pilotes de lignes.

(Briefly: "Air Méditerranée a charter company, based near Toulouse is about to lay off 85 people. It is offering about thirty of these employees to its Greek subsidiary  Hermès Airlines, causing the anger of the national union of airline pilots"... Bolkenstein?)

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Feb 28th, 2012 at 07:29:42 AM EST


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