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by In Wales Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54:02 AM EST

So, what's happening?


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We have something of a heat wave over here.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:55:17 AM EST
Here, too. Peaks of up to 22°C over the past ten days or so, well above the longtime average. Clear skies until today, now there have been the first evaporation clouds.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:19:59 PM EST
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21°C here in the burbs; a few degrees more in town I guess. Strangely enough, it's been much cooler in the Southern part of the country.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 01:32:49 PM EST
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Had fun cleaning out the rain gutter. At one point when I thought I can wash away the rest with the hose, a wad of acacia seed pods suddenly blocked the downspout. Before I could react, the gutter overflowed, and a black sludge dripped down the wall behind...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:32:21 PM EST
Lovely. Acacia Conspiracy...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:40:00 PM EST
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The glop I got in mine would blight the grass below had I not raked it up. I ended up putting plastic covers with screen cloth below on all the gutters. I had to get a commercial stapler to firmly attach the screen to the cover and then put brass screws through the edge of the cover, where it slips over the edge of the gutter, into the gutter and into the eave board at the house in some cases. We have lots of ceders that drop little blue pots that will go right through the plastic and we get snow sufficient to pull the covers off the gutters without the support of the screws. I think I finally got it more or less right, as the covers all have stayed in place for the last two years.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 01:54:55 PM EST
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ball shaped 'pods' that is, not 'pots'.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 01:56:41 PM EST
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SPIEGEL Interview with Tomas Sedlacek: 'Greed is the Beginning of Everything' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
In a SPIEGEL interview, Czech economist Tomas Sedlacek discusses morality in the current crisis and why he believes an economic policy that only pursues growth will always lead to debt. Those who don't know how to handle it, he argues, end up in a medieval debtor's prison, as the Greeks are experiencing today.  

In his bestseller "Economics of Good and Evil," first published in the Czech Republic in 2009, 35-year-old academic and political advisor Tomáš Sedláček defied the boundaries and stereotypes of his profession by exposing the roots of the economy in the cultural history of mankind.

OAS_RICH('Middle2'); From 2001 to 2003, Sedláček was an economic advisor to then Czech President Vaclav Havel, who valued his "new view on the problems of the contemporary world, one unburdened by four decades of the totalitarian Communist regime." Until 2006, Sedláček advised the Czech finance minister in a dispute over the consolidation of the budget, as well as the reform of the country's tax, pension and healthcare systems.

In the introduction to Sedláček's book, Havel wrote that most politicians "consciously or unconsciously accept and spread the Marxist thesis of the economic base and the spiritual superstructure." Sedláček, however, turns this hierarchy on its head on his philosophical journey through cultural and economic history. For him, all of economics ultimately revolves around the question of how we ought to live. The Yale Economic Review described him as one of the promising "five hot minds in economics."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 03:43:06 PM EST
Five hot minds... he is just another Thomas Friedman of the Y generation.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 06:01:06 PM EST
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In the interview itself, after lots of flowerly language that means what you want, he says nice things like:

Only a truly egomaniacal person can live happily in a society in which he is the only rich one. Man has a need for fairness and, therefore, for a fair distribution of wealth.

...or:

...A functioning society rests on three columns: morality or decency, competition and regulation, or basic government conditions. The weaker morality is, the stronger the state must intervene. The Eastern European countries, which depended entirely on deregulation to create markets after the fall of communism, learned this lesson after painful experiences. A society that focuses on egoism without morality descends into anarchy.

...and also says nice critical things like:

The most positive, descriptive economic models have approached the question of how the market economy functions with complicated mathematical models for decades, but they are simply wrong or pointless at best. The real question should be: Is the economy working the way we want it to?

...but his reading of the Eurozone crisis is:

Sedláček: Times of crisis are good for asking the right questions. We have to abandon the obsession with growth in economics. We have to get out of the manic-depressive cycle within which our economic everyday reality operates. And to do so, we have to pay more attention to the manic than the depressive phase, and we have to change the general goal of economic policy. Instead of maximizing the gross domestic product, the goal should be to minimize debt.

He wants to allow debt during a downturn, though. But in what I read from him before, he also opposes ECB bond purchases, wants to 'reform'the pension systems, and things an aging society means that the welfare state must end.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 06:26:56 PM EST
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Presseurop: Greece is our vanguard (by Tomáš Sedláček, 28 March 2012)
The near-collapse of Greece is the scenario that awaits other countries if they fail to get their debt under control. The aid to Athens is a sign that the European Union is still alive, but without the discipline of the fiscal pact, it won't be enough, says a Czech economist.
No, no, no, no, no!

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 28th, 2012 at 09:55:20 AM EST
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A Wall Street guy is better with his diagnosis (http://www.businessinsider.com/it-is-really-about-political-economy-in-greece-2012-3) and he's probably figured out ways to fleece a few people who are still lost between competing ideologies.

If, over the past decade Greece would have spent only the euro zone average of 1.7% of GDP on defense, rather than 4%, it would have saved a little more than 50% of GDP or roughly 150 bln euros--more than the second aid package.

....

Consider that Greece is the world's third largest arms importer after the behemoths of China and India. The arms imports contribute to the trade and current account deficits.

This leads us to look at where Greece is buying its weapons from. In the five years to 2010, Greece was Germany's number one customer for munitions, accounting for 15% of Germany's arms sales. Greece is also France's third largest customer, though the largest in Europe.

Incidentally, but not unrelated, Portugal is Germany's second largest arms purchaser.

This may help way the creditor nations have been less insistent on Greece cutting back more on arms spending. In 2010, the last year data is available, Greece actually increased defense spending by about 900 mln euros as it cut social spending by 1.8 bln euros.

It also reinforces the sense, which we suggested before, that the creditor nations were essentially engaged in producer financing. Loans from countries such as Germany and France were used to buy a significant part to buy their goods.

Now, the Greeks may very well be paranoid when it comes to Turkey, but who is Portugal threatened by?

by Upstate NY on Wed Mar 28th, 2012 at 12:32:57 PM EST
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This was recorded about 10 days ago. I enjoyed it. Max was on best behaviour.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 03:45:16 PM EST
I congratulate you. An excellent friendly, knowledgeable screen presence that worked well with Keiser, but obviously there is a supportive Iranian connection. If you can do the same with a more unfriendly interlocutor, your future as an energy pundit on the box is assured. Tieless was a good way to go, perceptually adjusted by the more staid dark jacket.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 04:21:43 PM EST
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NATO, Russia look headed for conflict | World | DW.DE | 24.03.2012

When NATO holds its summit this May in Chicago, there will not be the customary additional summit with Russia. Differences over NATO's missile shield plans have put dialogue and cooperation temporarily on hold.

Leaders in Moscow and Brussels carefully chose their words this week to downplay what is a clear impasse.

"The dialogue continues, and no doors are being closed," outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev told reporters on Friday, March 23. Medvedev was referring to the announcement the previous day by NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen that the bloc would not be meeting with Russia when it convenes in Chicago in May.

The official reason given was difficulty in accommodating the schedule of future Russian President Vladimir Putin. But earlier Rasmussen had said a NATO-Russia summit would only take place if the two sides could reach agreement on NATO's planned missile defense system in Europe, which Moscow stiffly opposes.

Experts say the real reason NATO and Russia won't be talking has nothing to do with full calendars.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 03:49:38 PM EST


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 04:31:35 PM EST
Taking a break from preparing for a small dinner party.

Twenty minutes from now the duck will go into the oven.

One hour and twenty minutes from now I'll start the pomegranate sauce.

One hour and fifteen minutes from now the carrots will begin to saute (in orange ginger sauce.)

Two hours from now I'll start the rice.

Two hours and ten minutes ... and I'll start the peas.

Anal?  Moi?

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 05:12:09 PM EST
Anal, no. It sounds planned.

Sounds nice, hope it went well

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 05:18:49 AM EST
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I think it went well.  The only sticking point was the sauce separating at last minute - oh well.  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:55:23 PM EST
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Sounds like a lovely evening you have planned there AT, and sure to be a great success!
by sgr2 on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 07:26:52 AM EST
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Worked out, me thinks.  It would have been better if I hadn't decided to be a klutz and fling a half a glass of wine all over the table.  The other diners assured me, knowing me as they do, they expected no less.  

So it's nice to be appreciated for who & what one is.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 01:03:40 PM EST
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Himself is an excellent and creative cook!  Duck was perfect, tasty sauce, every morsel eaten and enjoyed.

However, he neglected to mention that the spilled wine was a 1982 Dom Perignon that we bought about 25 years ago, at spectacular savings from a wine store that was going out of business.  It had been carefully and lovingly trucked from the Midwest to NM, through several moves, waiting for the perfect occasion.  It was wonderful, ripe with flavor, better than any champagne that I've ever had.  Needless to say, the other diners and I threatened to suck the last drops out of the tablecloth after himself had the audacity to knock over his  glass.  Next time it's beer for himself!

by ElaineinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 09:13:16 PM EST
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Nate silver is saying, if Ronney can't get 25% in louisiana, then he gets no delegates from the state.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:33:28 PM EST
99% reporting:

Santorum  49.1%   
Romney  26.6%   
Newt Gingrich  15.9%   
Ron Paul  6.1%

If I'm reading the rules right Santorum will get 36 delegates and Romney 7.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:23:09 AM EST
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So what are the totals?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 05:57:56 AM EST
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49% and 26.7% so Mitt gets some delegates.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:25:17 AM EST
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Yes, ATinNM says Romney gets 7 delegates in Louisiana. But my question was, what are the nationwide totals after Louisiana.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:54:11 AM EST
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Estimated Totals Are:

Romney 563
Santorum 293
Gingrich 135
Paul 50

"Estimated" due to some states are still in the process of picking delegates, some states send unpledged delegates, some states send a mixture of pledged and unpledged delegates.


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:29:54 PM EST
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Has Romney won any Southern state yet? What does that mean for the General?

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 06:12:34 AM EST
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Except for Florida and Virginia (both being special cases, for different reasons) Romney has not fared well in the South.  And it extends to the rest of the GOP; even now, when Mittens has the nomination almost in hand, 60% of the party supports another candidate.

I don't know what it means in the General but Obama's road to victory does not run through GOP base states like Mississippi - or even Indiana - so, in that sense: Who Cares?  


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 01:23:43 PM EST
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Why does Gingrich continue to be a spoiler for Santorum? What benefit does he obtain from a long, hopeless run?

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 06:15:15 AM EST
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Gingrich is a wholly owned puppet for a guy called Adelman.

Adelman has said he wants to accumulate delegates so that he can be a player at the Convention. However, given how Gingrich has faided, I saw a whisper on dKos that Adelman has closed his wallet. So I guess Gingirch is spinning out what's left in the kitty for the long term benefit of one Newt Gingrich; the Primary is now just an excuse for that process to be funded on other people's money, but is otherwise incidental to that process.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 07:34:40 AM EST
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So I guess Gingirch is spinning out what's left in the kitty for the long term benefit of one Newt Gingrich

IOW this wasn't the last we saw of him and He Shall Rise Again?....

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:55:36 AM EST
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who knows ?    who cares ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:51:15 PM EST
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This Adelson?

There are three stories about the euro crisis: the Republican story, the German story, and the truth. -- Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 25th, 2012 at 06:55:47 PM EST
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