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by Colman Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 11:21:47 AM EST

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The day after public holidays is like that.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 11:22:00 AM EST
For those who can access it, a sneak preview of the new Spiritualized album. I'm quite partial to tracks 4 & 6.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 11:43:59 AM EST
and he's flying his influences high, with Damo Suzuki-esque vocals on Mary

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 11:48:14 AM EST
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from 2008

2014: A Tory dystopia | Red Pepper

David Cameron's apple-pie promises and feel-good rhetoric might sweep him to power in 2010, but there's a yawning gap between the vagueness of his words and the likely consequences of his policies. Alex Nunns takes us on a trip into the future to see how Britain might look after four years of Tory rule

The year is 2014. The Tories, led by David Cameron, are preparing to go to the polls, seeking a second term in government. Back in 2010 they crushed Labour in the general election, and promised to bring about a social transformation to match the economic reforms of the late Margaret Thatcher. And it's true that four years of Cameron government have certainly brought many changes - they're just not the ones the voters expected.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 12:56:55 PM EST
But just like under Thatcher, the compliant media will convince 51% that they're better off with bread and circuses than the hope of dignity under another govt, while the unemployed will be branded the enemy within who are all that stands between us and the return of Great Britain, warrior kingdom, hammer of the Scots Europe.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 01:28:34 PM EST
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Hopefully, those who will take their clue from 'compliant media' will be well under 50% of the electorate by then. And much of the public seems to be getting wise to the manipulations being used by Cameron et al. - at least as indicated by the reaction to the recent petrol scare.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 01:39:26 PM EST
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The petrol "scare" in't a good example; they still panicked and the UK ran out of petrol. It was just that the unions had conspicuously failed to go on strike. At which point everyone realised they'd been had.

But they'll still do it all again next year if a minister says "panic now and avoid the rush". Tabloid readers are easily led

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 01:47:21 PM EST
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Since I've been busy writing "DOOOOOOM" in the Eurozone threads, let me try to grasp at some straws of hope.

The Tories have a big problem.

The only significant source of middle class wealth for them to loot on behalf of the 1% sits in the bank accounts and living standards of pensioners. Never forget that the Tory obsession with killing the NHS will hit older voters the hardest.

Everyone else has been pillaged pretty much to penury. The Tories have plenty of nasty policies left for the rest, sheer vindictiveness will see to that - and the tabloids will cheer it on.

Trouble is, natural Tories though many of them are, pensioners are the "Grey Vote" and they will lash back at the next election for every time George takes some of their money or their health care.

So the Tory party is between a rock and a hard place... and I think it's due to bite them again soon.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:29:41 PM EST
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Now if only there were a viable alternative....

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Apr 11th, 2012 at 12:38:00 AM EST
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Aye, there's the rub

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 11th, 2012 at 02:52:08 AM EST
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Listening to depositions all day is fun.

/kills self

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 01:01:46 PM EST
It just makes that evening pint more deserved

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 01:48:20 PM EST
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Look on the bright side, a friend has to write-up depositions.  Day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day ...

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:17:21 PM EST
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Been doing a lot of that, as well as write-ups of expert reports.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:56:47 PM EST
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"Code is law." Literally.  By Lambert Strether in naked capitalism

We can look at the foreclosure crisis as the pre-emininent law enforcement crisis of our time: Elite impunity for crimes committed and still being committed by lenders and servicers ("banksters") on a massive scale. We can also look at the foreclosure crsis as an issue of jurisprudence, where a revolutionary oligarchy seeks to change the nature of law itself.

There follows an illuminating discussion of a case brought against Wells Fargo in the court of Louisiana judge Elizabeth W. Magner's recent decision busting Wells Fargo, in which WF is hit with $3.1 million in punative damages for one loan.

Lambert Strether organizes the ruling into two columns, one representing the law based content of the case, the other representing the computer code based facts of Well's fraudulent mortgage servicing system. The judge concluded, based on a survey of 1,000 cases in Louisiana, that the problems were systemic and that Wells had ignored/defied court ordered mandates on how the processing of payments in these cases should be conducted.

Of course her ruling is vulnerable to being overturned on review by judges more 'sympathetic' to the US banking system. That will show that illegal code trumps law when that code is backed by financial power that owns the agencies charged with enforcing the law.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:13:44 PM EST
The WH has so far shown no sympathy for the victims of these frauds up to now.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:29:48 PM EST
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They might make a show of support in October, after they have their campaign funds on deposit - or not, depending on how they see it playing politically.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:52:15 PM EST
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From

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wind-power-seen-surging-custom-075118734.html

Are these numbers roughly right ?

"Offshore wind costs about $232 a megawatt-hour of power generated, according to data from Bloomberg New Energy Finance. That compares with about $80 for onshore wind, $62 for gas-fired plants and $77 for coal."

"Europe will install about 10.4 gigawatts of offshore wind turbines from this year through 2015, more than 70 percent of the global total..."

sidd

by sidd on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 02:50:44 PM EST
I'm not an expert, but till they come in I'm not sure they're comparing like with like.

Coal and gas costs money, over and above the price of building the power station, wind is free. There are clean up costs associated with coal, both in production and waste ash not present in wind.

So, I think there's a little cooking of figures going on

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 03:09:56 PM EST
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what price the diseases caused by the mercury effluent from coal plants?

how could i forget, that's an externality!

what a shrivelled world view, that excludes health effects from an economic calculation...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 03:52:38 PM EST
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To you both I say the magic word: "EXTERNALITIES!"

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Apr 11th, 2012 at 12:40:15 AM EST
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Obama to face Romney in 2012 U.S. vote as Santorum drops from race - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Rick Santorum announced the suspension of his campaign for the GOP presidential nomination on Tuesday, adding that he will not stop fighting for the defeat of incumbent U.S. President Barack Obama.

Speaking at his home state of Pennsylvania, Santorum said: "While this presidential race for us is over for me, and we will suspend our campaign effective today, we are not done fighting,"



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:03:58 PM EST
As much about his daughter's illness as any calculation about his immediate prospects.

But he's probably aware that he's acquitted himself well and is well placed for 2016 after Romney gets creamed

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:17:19 PM EST
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The combo of President Mittens + VP Santorum is going to obsolete The Onion completely...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:40:02 PM EST
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Fun little toy  

 

by ElaineinNM on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:19:58 PM EST
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Apr 10th, 2012 at 04:33:13 PM EST


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