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by dvx Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:44:20 AM EST

What's for dinner?


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This is what we're having.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:46:52 AM EST
(Minus the Hollandaise.)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:47:19 AM EST
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Ah - enjoy them! I had the first Markgräfler Spargeln yesterday - besides the ones from the Alsace they are the best. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 02:31:37 PM EST
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We had some Greek asparagus from the supermarket tonight, not bad. Bits and pieces for dinner, apéritif dinatoire, our specialty. Crumbed shrimps, smoked herring, tourtons du Champsaur, saucisson, cheese, Entre-deux-mers and Cotes du Rhone.

After a two-week visit from in-laws, observant Moslems, Better Half's instructions were "Put the champagne back in the fridge, and go and buy som ham."

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 04:35:38 PM EST
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Homemade bread, decent butter, peach-fig jam, balanced with organic, free-trade, dark-roast coffee. Lunch is already made - jambon on the home-made bread with some havarti - may add a little Dijon mustard (from Dijon).

I am such a Frenchie.

Bon chance on the election tomorrow, though it seems that luck won't be needed.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:55:24 AM EST
Last night it was mashed celeriac and potato (from our cold room) with blue cheese and a claytonia (from our garden) garnish, steak, and snow peas (frozen from our garden), along with baked apple (we turned our apple crop into applesauce so we bought some) with maple syrup, cinnamon and rum for dessert.


aspiring to genteel poverty

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 12:38:59 PM EST
around here. It's only whispered among a small, suppressed subculture on ET.

We make applesauce with most of our apples, too, then freeze it. Funny that I was just thinking about our big,old freezer last night. We bought it well-used about 30 years ago. It just keeps on running out in the garage. I was thinking it might be time to vacuum the leaves and spider webs out from under - which I remember to do about once every 5 years. Amazing machine.

Last year we had a poor crop of plums and peaches, because it kept up a cold rain during the whole blossom cycle. This year bodes well - warm with sunshine - and the bees are going for it. The main apple tree is covered with flower buds. Could be a good year.

My wife started a Friends of the Food Bank this Winter, because of cutbacks in government support. Now a friend is re-organizing our County's gleaning activities. Things are looking up in many ways.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 02:00:33 PM EST
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I hear the latest "up North" is canned peaches in Anchovy Oil.    
by ElaineinNM on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 02:54:51 PM EST
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Mmm slurp
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:15:35 PM EST
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you for that one.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:35:47 PM EST
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by ElaineinNM on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 05:45:37 PM EST
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Oh! Can I order these on Internet?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 03:01:55 AM EST
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You do realise that these products have to be delivered by low-loader, and require industrial warehousing? One tin of Power Peaches weighs more than two US sedans.

It is a problem we are working on after the mass walk-outs at our Weights and Measures Inspectorate.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 04:32:45 AM EST
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That's an idea that could get you Bonked.  Oh, I see Sven is already on it.


'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 02:23:34 PM EST
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paul spencer:

We make applesauce with most of our apples, too, then freeze it. Funny that I was just thinking about our big,old freezer last night. We bought it well-used about 30 years ago. It just keeps on running out in the garage. I was thinking it might be time to vacuum the leaves and spider webs out from under - which I remember to do about once every 5 years. Amazing machine.

Lifespan of freezers went down when they started to put pointless electronics in them. So take good care of it.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:21:28 PM EST
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that the motor and compressor were built before planned obsolescence had become almost universal, too.

When it dies, I may just go to Craigslist and buy a used one, figuring that a new one is just so much depreciation on top of the risk of failure one day after the warranty expires.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:42:58 PM EST
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Yle: Study: Internet addiction shrinks grey matter

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 12:53:47 PM EST
Good news for Italy, with one of Europe's lowest internet usage rates.....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:00:10 PM EST
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Everything changes our brains. That's the point of brains.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:01:04 PM EST
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Of course. That's why I posted it. Though one does wonder how any emergent process may be guided. Problem is, language describes itself.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:28:36 PM EST
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too hard for me to understand. back to twitter.
by rootless2 on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:13:43 PM EST
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Won't help.
When people refer to being "addicted" to social network sites like Facebook and Twitter, they may be more accurate than they think. Two recent studies have found that online social networks can induce chemical responses in the brain that make them just as addictive as alcohol or cigarettes.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:19:54 PM EST
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I doubt this is true only of "social networks"...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:36:17 PM EST
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Nah, definitely only social network. My internet browsing habits are entirely wholesome. Also I could stop any time.
In fact I stopped yesterday. Five times.

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter
by generic on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 11:20:55 PM EST
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I would stop right here and now, but I need to reply to your comment.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 02:30:00 AM EST
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Nicotine and alcohol both eventually produce learned behaviour disorders, but the mechanisms are different enough not to be linked so closely under the 'addiction' label.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:49:54 PM EST
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TV is worse:

The visual trigger for a seizure is generally cyclic, forming a regular pattern in time or space. Flashing lights or rapidly changing or alternating images (as in clubs, around emergency vehicles, in action movies or television programs, etc.) are an example of patterns in time that can trigger seizures, and these are the most common triggers.

Television has traditionally been the most common source of seizures in PSE.

Some PSE patients, especially children, may exhibit an uncontrollable fascination with television images that trigger seizures, to such an extent that it may be necessary to physically keep them away from television sets.

Thus, the problem may actually be the CRT people are using, not the Internet itself.

(So there.  :-þ  nah)


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 01:25:24 PM EST
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A scientific study (I'd give a link, but I can't be bothered to look it up, iirc it was Russian) proved that reading the European Tribune increases brain size by up to ten times.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 02:58:23 AM EST
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Oh, my hair will stay brown then?  Is that what you mean? (Could be too late a warning for some of us, heh.)

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 02:25:45 PM EST
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OMG I hope that I will be able to still dance the quick step at 94 like Mathilda.

Please watch beyond the first two minutes. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 02:30:22 PM EST
Cauliflower casserole.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 02:39:25 PM EST
Leek and potato soup.

But for lunch, roast mallard duck with roast potatoes and sweet potatoes.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:16:41 PM EST
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The Donald Trump for President

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 03:13:12 PM EST

He's level with The Rocket again...

<sub>*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
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by DoDo on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 04:15:14 PM EST
Al-Jazeera on Greece. Al-Jazeera, not The Onion. I repeat, not The Onion.
Europeans are regularly skewered by many in the US for having "messed up" Greece. Meanwhile, the United States is doing no better with its own special ward, Afghanistan. There is plenty of blame to go around, but ultimately nowhere more than in the two troubled countries themselves.

The parallels between Greece (from a European perspective) and Afghanistan (from a US perspective) are astounding. Both have turned out to be very expensive engagements, taking up extraordinary amounts of decision-makers' time in Brussels and in Washington. Both have disproportionately dominated global news headlines for quite a long time.

And yet, for the extraordinary degree of European and US engagement, the growing expectation is that much of the effort will be for naught. The principal reason for this disappointing state of affairs is that Greece and Afghanistan have political leaderships focused mostly on serving their own personal interests. In both countries, there is widespread corruption and a general inclination among the elites to take foreigners for a ride.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Apr 21st, 2012 at 09:45:09 PM EST
Hamas Chief on 'Noble' Women Rabbis | The Forward
As it turned out, he was fascinated with my wife; downright astounded, in fact, to learn she is a rabbi.

"There are women rabbis?" he asked.

I broke the news to him: In the U.S. seminaries of Judaism's non-Orthodox streams today, something like half the students entered are women.

I explained to him how Dianne's decision in 1992 to become a rabbi was nevertheless a deeply wrenching one. It made her an outcast in her own community, among the highly patriarchal Syrian Jews of Brooklyn. Basically, I said, what was for my wife her proudest intellectual achievement was for her community an absolute scandal.

"But why?" said the Hamas leader. "She's done nothing wrong. What she's done is noble."

It is inevitable after an interview like this that a reporter immediately thinks of dozens of questions he should have asked but didn't. In this case, I realized the obvious one on the plane home: And what about women imams?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 05:18:43 AM EST
indeed

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 10:15:24 AM EST
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Anyone up for posting an OT for Sunday?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Apr 22nd, 2012 at 01:38:03 PM EST


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