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Monday Open Thread

by dvx Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 11:27:58 AM EST

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Something to redeem us for the fact that it's Monday.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 11:28:56 AM EST
Sitting at home with an ice-pack on my right cheek after coming from dental surgery.  With all the work I've had recently (and which isn't even half-way finished), I'm actually enjoying it!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 11:36:33 AM EST
Hope it stops aching soon.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:19:54 PM EST
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I hadn't noticed much pain yet.  Actually, one of my herniated disks slipped a bit while lifting something this morning enough to put me in pain.  That is what is bothering me, now.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:38:49 PM EST
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Oh noes, I've got that coming soon. I find 'frozen face' very uncomfortable. I have even preferred small fillings without anesthesia - short sharp pains that go away almost immediately. To be honest, I can't watch a close up of any kind of injection in a movie. All down I guess to a childhood trauma with possible tetanus (manure fork through foot), which in those days involved what appeared to be a 75cc kitchen syringe with a 6" nail for a needle - in the top of the thigh.

But at least I'll never mainline.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:32:58 PM EST
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"I find 'frozen face' very uncomfortable."  Yeah, ... make sure not to bite your tongue!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:42:05 PM EST
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Arg, not biting your tongue is almost impossible

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:52:58 PM EST
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I used to routinely have dental work done without anesthesia unless the dentist thought it would get too close to the nerve. I hated both the novacane hangover and the trauma to my mouth from the needle, which I found to be the worst aspect of dentistry.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:21:42 PM EST
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Just had a root canal today. It must be dentistry day on ET.

It was unpleasant, but a long way from the worst I've had. (And certainly better than the occasional unbearable tooth ache I've had for the last few months.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:43:08 PM EST
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A root canal meant I didn't need anesthetic for future work on that tooth.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 03:30:02 PM EST
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A temporary crown fell out and I had to go to the dentist to get it back in today, and he also scheduled me for four more appointments in May to get a double crown put in.  Our bank account is weeping. Definitely dental day on EuroTrib.

Count me in as one who prefers the needle and the numbing. I almost fell to the floor the first time the German dentist asked if I wanted the anesthetic, as if there were any other way to have dentistry. I answered something like "well, I don't know how you're going to work on my teeth if I'm biting on a frickin' bullet."

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:32:50 PM EST
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Dental day here too.  I chipped the back off a tooth...front of tooth and filling are intact, but inner tooth is just gone.  It doesn't hurt so dentist put me off until next week.  I'm with W of Bath----drugs for me when they drill.  

I was supposed to have jury duty today, but they cancelled the  trial.  I should have just gone back to bed....  

by ElaineinNM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:05:51 PM EST
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I have had crowns that came out and were simply glued back in. I can definitely empathize with the money worries. My dentist thought he had his mortgage payment when he recommended doing all four lower incisors just after charging me about $1,000 to put fillings on most faces of those same incisors. I told him I expected to get more mileage out of the work he had just done. The best dentist I ever had offered a five year prorated warranty on crowns! He could afford to. His never came out.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:52:14 PM EST
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Apparently my crowns have to be gold inside because the edges are going to be so near the bone, which accounts for part of the cost. One is on a tooth which had a crown that was about 20 years old, at least, and the other is a new crown on a tooth that is "live" and is composed mostly of filling.

We adore our dentists (father, daughter.)  They live in our little neighborhood here in Bischofswiesen and their office is also in the neighborhood. We have their private numbers in case of emergencies.  This is SO different from my USA experience, even though there is a dentist in Little Rock who's one of the best dentists in the world, I'm certain.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 03:06:38 AM EST
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Glad you found a good dentist. Always iffy in smaller, resort type locations.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 09:31:58 AM EST
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If the tooth is dead enough to need a root canal, there's sometimes no need for anaesthetic during the canal treatment.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:43:32 PM EST
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Anesthetic is only needed if there is still a live root, which has always been the case for me. I guess my roots don't die easily. Add to that the fact that I have double innervations for many teeth....my gums could be like pincushions after anesthetic. For my uppers I would sometimes get bleeding from my sinus cavities afterwards.
 

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:56:21 PM EST
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It must be dentistry day on ET.

This discussion seems to have hit a nerve. Even the teeth with root canals seem to be tingling.  :-)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 06:00:25 PM EST
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Thank all of you for sharing.

I'm glad i still have some teeth.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:36:06 PM EST
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I had a somewhat a similar experience. Back when I was a kid I broke my ankle in a skateboard accident and was hospitalized overnight. In the morning they came in to draw blood and the needle broke in my arm. As I readily admit to being a sissy anyway, this resulted in a life-long aversion to needles (seeing them in any way or experiencing them) anywhere near skin (mine or anybody else's). Surprisingly, this phobia does not extend to shots in the mouth for numbness where my attitude is grin and bear it because you've gotta have it. But it sure rules out hospital shows, and most often parts of the news.

But at least I'll never mainline either.

by sgr2 on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 07:42:46 AM EST
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ElPais.com in English: Spain enters new recession with worse to come, says central bank.

And, in Spanish only... The Socialists call on the citizenry to "defend themselves" against the government.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 11:59:20 AM EST
The Socialists call on the citizenry to "defend themselves" against the government.

Coming to a theater near you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:10:24 PM EST
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well they are more courageous out of office, it appears.
by rootless2 on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 06:21:56 PM EST
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When in office, they were unable to defend the country from the EU. When out of office, they're unable to defend the country from the government. If they were admitting they're useless, that would be courageous. They're not being courageous, they're being unintentionally ironic.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:10:40 AM EST
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the upcoming French election.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:21:23 PM EST
Interesting, thanks for pointing it out

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:37:43 PM EST
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"Islamophobia is now accepted in polite company." is right on the money.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:12:12 PM EST
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Not my experience, but I guess I don't get around much.

I suspect that it is one of the defining issues that define left and right nowadays. If it's true that "mainstream" right wingers now openly own islamophobic sentiments, and if Sarkozy chooses this as his battlefield over the next ten days, there are dark days ahead.

But I also suspect that this will amplify Hollande's winning margin, and singularly complicate things for the UMP in the legislatives. Reaping the whirlwind.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:02:27 AM EST
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El Pais (in Spanish): Marine Le Pen aspires to lead the French right is Sarkozy is defeated (24 April 2012)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:24:44 AM EST
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And, of course, you all know it's the 496th anniversary of the Rheinheitsgebot, Bavarian beer quality, law today. Narly 500 years of good beer.

If it were not for a little meeting in Paris later this week I'd probably be in Bamberg or Munich today, but I can wait.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 12:32:39 PM EST
We'll have to really blow it out for the 500th!

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 03:08:50 AM EST
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I shall be somewhere in Bayern. I'm tempted to enquire if Bamberg or Munich are planning something special

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 12:41:40 PM EST
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Munich?  The Munich Reinheitsgebot dates from 1487. The anniversary was a long time ago:

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:42:45 PM EST
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movable feast. Thats the celebration of the first beer purity law in Ingolstadt only.

The Bavarian Rheinheitsgebot law is 23/4/1516

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:45:10 PM EST
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Czech Premier Seeks Partner to Avoid Vote as Coalition Falls (Bloomberg, 23 April 2012)
Governments across Europe have lost power in the past two years as German Chancellor Angela Merkel pushes for austerity to prevent the euro area from breaking up.

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte will meet his Cabinet today to discuss a strategy for passing a budget that meets European Union targets. Early elections will probably be called after the Freedom Party withdrew its support for the minority government on April 21.

...

The Czech coalition broke up over Cabinet personnel decisions and trimming the deficit as Necas's 20-month-old administration prepares tax increases and a cut in spending on pensions to bring the fiscal gap to within the EU limit of 3 percent of gross domestic product next year. The fiscal goals have attracted investors into Czech bonds, pushing the government's borrowing costs to a record low.



guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 01:06:25 PM EST
Crooked Timber: Harvard Library pushes open access
This looks like a bombshell announcement to me (I'm not aware of the internal politics behind the announcement, but I'm presuming that Robert Darnton's fingerprints are all over it). Discuss.
We write to communicate an untenable situation facing the Harvard Library. ... The Faculty Advisory Council to the Library, representing university faculty in all schools and in consultation with the Harvard Library leadership, reached this conclusion: major periodical subscriptions, especially to electronic journals published by historically key providers, cannot be sustained: continuing these subscriptions on their current footing is financially untenable. ...


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:02:35 PM EST
The prices and access policies for these academic journals is both grotesque rent extraction and effective exclusion of independent eyes from viewing the journals. Academics should move to open access online journals. Fuck 'em!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:27:14 PM EST
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University of Florida Eliminates Computer Science Department, Increases Athletic Budgets.

The University of Florida announced this past week that it was dropping its computer science department, which will allow it to save about $1.7 million.  The school is eliminating all funding for teaching assistants in computer science, cutting the graduate and research programs entirely, and moving the tattered remnants into other departments.

Meanwhile, the athletic budget for the current year is $99 million, an increase of more than $2 million from last year.  The increase alone would more than offset the savings supposedly gained by cutting computer science.



Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:24:43 PM EST
First things first!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:28:00 PM EST
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Who needs computers when you can have repetitive concussion ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:29:43 PM EST
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I knew something had to explain Republican politics.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:44:27 PM EST
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The US is an intellectual abyss...and don't you forget it!
by ElaineinNM on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:51:06 PM EST
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Talking of Florida and intellectual abysses, where's Drew ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 02:54:27 PM EST
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Probably being pulled down into the abyss by the tentacle of a deposition, but he will surface again soon. He is a native. They know how to plumb the depths of the abyss.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 03:32:51 PM EST
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Is it really an abyss if you don't know a non-abyss?  I am a native after all.

Anyway, I responded below.  I'm afraid Forbes bs'ed you guys on this one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:58:41 PM EST
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Plenty of room in CA for hardworking intelligent folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:13:32 PM EST
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My brother was pre-med at a college in Louisiana from 1969 to 1972, and they didn't have enough money to supply sufficient test tubes in the science labs, but they could spend thousands of dollars every week getting the marching band uniforms dry-cleaned for the football games.  So this is a long-established priority and explains a lot about the U S of A.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 04:37:00 PM EST
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I can't believe you're going to make me defend those inbred, shit-kicking yokels down the road, but the story is nonsense.

A few points:

(1) These are two separate budgets.  Money isn't taken from the GR fund and put in the proprietary athletic fund.  Especially not at a massive powerhouse football school like UF.

(2) Computer science is not being eliminated at UF.  It's being merged into the engineering school.

(3) The Gators make obscene amounts of money on their athletics department -- so much so that they're a net contributor to the school's general revenue fund.  The entire Dept of Athletics has a budget of $99m.  UF makes a lot more than that on football alone via ticket sales and merchandise (and that's not getting into Booster cash).

The university just raised ticket prices -- not easy for a school whose football team (the main money-maker) is garbage right now -- and threw another $6m into the general revenue fund.  They're thrown something like $60m into the general revenue fund over the last few decades.

The athletic department is a huge benefit to UF.

Note the source here: Forbes, whose darling governor is the one that slashed the CS budget.  People should be ripping on Rick Scott for slashing the university budgets, not at the athletic department.  There are plenty of good examples of wasteful athletic departments, but UF's ain't one of them.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 07:47:46 PM EST
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Forbes on their favourite governor:
Meanwhile, just two days ago, Florida governor Rick Scott approved the creation of a brand-new public university, Florida Polytechnic University, to be located near the city of Tampa.  In an unintentionally ironic statement, Gov. Scott said
"At a time when the number of graduates of Florida's universities in the STEM [science, technology, engineering, and mathematics] fields is not projected to meet workforce needs, the establishment of Florida Polytechnic University will help us move the needle in the right direction."
Heads up, Gov. Scott: no one is going to believe that you're supporting technical education when your flagship university is eliminating its Computer Science Department. Since cutting support for universities seems to be a major agenda item for you and the legislature, why stop at 30%?  With just a bit more cutting, you could get rid of those annoying universities entirely.  Let the rest of the country worry about higher education! Florida can focus on orange groves and golf courses. Oh, and football.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:19:38 AM EST
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Ok, so it's just regular old stir-the-pot stuff.

Also, don't blame us for the golf courses.  The idiot Northerners and Lesser Southerners (ex: Alabamans) are the ones who like that crap.

As for orange groves and football, look, we have comparative advantages in both.  

Also, too, Salzberg is a bitter Marylander.  Stupid turtles can't balance their books, because their fanbase sucks.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 05:55:00 AM EST
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...adding:

Let me also point out that the very blog Forbes cites for its weasel paragraph has noted that Forbes is full of shit and places the blame where it's deserved.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 08:18:02 PM EST
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Let me start by asking, what is your first association when somebody talks to you about 'the economy'? Is the image you get: factories working, supermarkets full of people, busy Wall St., or, what? For today's purpose, I would like you to think of the economic system, first, as a web of contracts, contracts and understandings among agents in the economy.

Now, this is a web of contracts where, any given day, some of them are fulfilled, expired, others are renewed, the web is constantly renewed. The problem is, in this renewal of the web of contracts, the whole web can develop instability. The instabilities come in different sizes, if you want. So, we have first, of course, just an individual isolated default. It's taken care of, the law takes care of it and so on, it happens all the time. Some promises are broken. But if some promise is broken in the web, there's at any given time a probability that that will cause somebody else to default. So, in a reasonably robust credit system these chains of defaults will be very short. But the web can develop into a state where one default will trigger an avalanche of defaults and those avalanches differ in size, taking down as it were bigger or smaller portions of the web.

You can think of some loose analogies of phenomena that have a similar dynamic structure, for example power grid blackouts may wipe out all the north eastern states or just a local community, or Per Bak's famous sandpiles. You may remember that mental experiment: you have sand running at a constant rate onto a pile and the pile keeps growing and at intervals, random intervals, you get avalanches in the pile and these differ in size and you have a given size distribution, and so on. So this is true of default avalanches in an economy as well, but a highly fragile economy, a Minsky-fragile system, has the possibility of crashing altogether.

(h/t kcurie)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 23rd, 2012 at 05:12:01 PM EST
Good talk.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 01:31:28 AM EST
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The opening three paragraphs promise more than he delivers, but on the other hand they indicate the conceptual universe Leijonhufvud lives in, and by golly it's not Dynamic Stochastic General Equilibrium. See Macroeconomics and the Crisis: A Personal Appraisal (CEPR Policy Insight No.41, November 2009)
In a new CEPR Policy Insight, Axel Leijonhufvud argues that theories that assume that the economy is a stable general equilibrium system, albeit beset with some frictions and imperfections, do not hold true in general and that we need a new paradigm of economic thought.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 03:52:26 AM EST
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His discussion of Complexity Theory is not exactly hopeless but is certainly (IMO) at the kindergarten level.  I found his reference to Per Bak interesting, making me wonder how deeply Leijonhufvud has grasped self-organized criticality wrt Real Systems, not "just" mathematically.


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:09:18 AM EST
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I just sent you email

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:12:03 AM EST
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He has a later paper along the same lines: Nature of an economy (CEPR Policy Insight No. 53, February 2011)
The financial crisis and the ensuing recession have prompted reappraisals of the state of macroeconomic theory. This policy insight argues that we have to think of an economy as an "open system" in the ontological sense and adapt out methods to the nature of an economy - to change how we do economics.
From the paper:
Rational expectations envisage the economy as a train travelling through a Markovian switching yard. Everybody on board! All with the same mental baggage neatly packed. At predetermined, constant intervals the train switches - clickety-clack - onto a new track chosen by a draw from a fair lottery. The tracks have been laid once and for all (and there are no derailments). Not necessarily the most profound image of the human condition! Yet, giving up this conception of the nature of an economy would force us to modify our methods. Accepting that the future cannot be known with certainty, even as a probability distribution, means recognising that we are dealing with an open system. And then the usefulness of many tools of the trade comes into doubt.

Agents in such a system have to adapt15 to events the probability of which they had not estimated correctly - or which they may not even have imagined. Obviously, intertemporal optimisation cannot then be a "true" representation of behaviour. The problem is that treating behaviour as adaptive opens the door to all sorts of non-linear behaviour and one would not like to see macro theory reduced to little else than rummaging in the toy box of complex system dynamics.

Our accustomed analytical techniques may still have their uses in studying the open system. In periods of prolonged tranquillity, agents are apt to pay attention to the rates of intertemporal substitution that they see themselves as facing and to do so for some distance into the future. This will tend to dampen the economy's tendency to fluctuate. It will at least suppress high-frequency oscillations. This is captured by intertemporal optimisation models which may thus provide approximations of observed behaviour. In making such use of them, however, we had better remember that transversality conditions at an infinite time horizon are not to be taken seriously. Every bubble that ever burst proves transversality false. So, how far to trust these models becomes a question of judgment - and not an easy one.



guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:32:48 AM EST
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Of course, when he speaks of the collapse of the reasonable centre, it must be remembered that the reason the quote-unquote "reasonable" centre collapses in a major depression is that it is not, in fact, reasonable. And has not been for quite some time.

Because if it were reasonable, it would have solved the problem before it turned into a serious depression. It is not at all difficult, from a technical perspective, to prevent depressions. All it requires is that you fuck over some creditors in a controlled manner before matters come to a head in a general collapse of the credit system.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 02:24:30 AM EST
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See Obama, John Rawls, and a Defense of the Unreasonable by Nonpartisan on June 13th, 2009

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 03:48:20 AM EST
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Of course, when he speaks of the collapse of the reasonable centre, it must be remembered that the reason the quote-unquote "reasonable" centre collapses in a major depression is that it is not, in fact, reasonable. And has not been for quite some time.

HA!

Good one.
 

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:11:56 AM EST
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was supposed to be a quiet dinner-party affair to celebrate/mourn the Better Half's birthday. A dozen guests, selected according to an esoteric sampling method based on age, ethnicity, languages spoken, sexual orientation, and so on, so as to get the desired result. Like panel-based opinion polling.

One of the guests took me aside and told me that two musicians would be arriving at 8.30, as a birthday surprise. BH was somewhat nonplussed when Rhoslan turned up with his violin case, claiming to be a "friend of Michel" (Russian mafia hit man?). He claimed that five more musicians and a sound system were on the way. In the end, Sergei turned up with his guitar, they tuned up and struck up. They played a variety of styles, but the overall effect was a Django Rheinhart / Stéphane Grappelli thing. Ties and collars were loosened, and the rythm of drinking adjusted to that of the musicians (no ethnic stereotyping intended, but you all know what I mean).

At around 11, there was a knock on the door, I opened to a vaguely familiar face, so I pulled him inside and kissed him on both cheeks. As you do. It turned out to be the neighbour from upstairs, come to complain about the noise. He ended up staying till after midnight.

Not bad for a Monday night.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 04:50:59 AM EST
Any vacancies in your building?

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2012 at 06:30:30 AM EST
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