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by In Wales Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:10:37 PM EST

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:38:46 PM EST
Russia holds fast in objection to missile shield | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Russian officials say they could react to the deployment of a NATO missile defense shield with fresh military investment of their own. This comes ahead of talks between the two sides in Moscow.

There was no sign of compromise on Thursday in a row between Russia and NATO over the Western military alliance's plan to build a missile defense shield in Poland.

Just hours before senior officials from the two sides were to meet at a missile defense conference in Moscow, Russia's defense minister, Angatoly Serdyukov said the two sides had reached an impasse.

"We have not been able to find mutually acceptable solutions at this point and the situation is practically at a dead end," Serdyukov told a televised news conference.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:43:04 PM EST
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It's a stupid idea and I can fully understand the Rusians parnoia, but it may be that they could allow it in the same way that any indian prince would gift a white elephant to those who displeased them.

America's military machine is becoming an unaffordable burden, the russians should encourage this tendency

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:15:44 AM EST
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European intellectuals warn of EU's demise | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Around 90 intellectuals have warned of Europe's demise and appealed to European governments to create a volunteer service that all Europeans could take part in - regardless of age or experience.

The signatories to the appeal, which was published on Thursday in numerous European newspapers, blames European elites for a political system that they describe as rescuing indebted banks and squandering young people's future in the process.

"[The] top-down Europe, the Europe of elites and technocrats that has prevailed up to now ...considers itself responsible for forging the destiny of the citizenry of Europe - if need be, against its will," the manifesto says. "[It] is this unspoken maxim of European politics that is threatening to destroy the entire European project."



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:44:22 PM EST
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I think paid jobs would be a better ida than a "volunteer" service. Make the EU seem like a benefactor rather than a punisher.

but we gotta pay for banker's bonuses somehow

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:17:32 AM EST
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The aim of the manifest is not to replace workers by volunteers: this is an attempt to raise awareness in European citizenship. If, during a year, the ordinary citizens of all EU countries citizens do something as European citizens in solidarity, it might help to think "we are citizens of Europe." And so may even judge whether the measures taken in their respective countries and in other countries benefit ordinary citizens or they are decided by elites for the benefit of elites. I think that's the intention.
by PerCLupi on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 06:56:21 AM EST
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Well everybody likes money. And some folks need money more than others. OTOH, coming together on a volunteer basis with people of a like mind to accomplish a common goal can provide benefits and a certain satisfaction that goes way beyond what can be paid in money alone.
by sgr2 on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 12:00:49 PM EST
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See:
The Rubble Of Neoliberalism  
Today El País: Manifiesto para reconstruir Europa desde la base = We are Europe!
Manifesto for re-building Europe from the bottom up
http://manifest-europa.eu/category/allgemein?lang=en
by PerCLupi on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 05:15:34 AM EST
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EU commissioners plan to avoid Ukraine during Euro 2012 | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

German and European leaders are piling pressure on Kyiv ahead of the Euro 2012 soccer competition. The EU Commission has said it may not attend, while one German politician asked that the final be moved to Warsaw.

EU Commission leaders appear unwilling to attend football matches taking place in Ukraine this summer as part of Euro 2012, citing concern over the treatment of imprisoned opposition figurehead Yulia Tymoshenko.

Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso raised the issue during a weekly meeting on Wednesday, saying he did not currently intend to travel to matches in Ukraine.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:44:54 PM EST
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EUobserver.com / Foreign Affairs / Poland: Euro2012 boycott based on ulterior motives

BRUSSELS - The President of Poland - which is co-hosting Euro2012 with Ukraine - has accused EU politicians planning to boycott Ukrainian matches of ulterior motives.

Speaking on national TV on Wednesday (2 May), Bronislaw Komorowski said the crackdown on opposition in Ukraine is not comparable to events which prompted previous Western boycotts - of the Moscow Olympics in 1980 and the Beijing Olympics in 2008.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:04:57 PM EST
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Gauck will 'speak from the heart' | Germany | DW.DE | 03.05.2012
Gauck will "speak from the heart and reach many Dutch people," said a Dutch studies professor of the German president's visit to Holland. He discounts protests against Germany's refusal to extradite war criminals.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:50:44 PM EST
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EUobserver.com / Justice & Home Affairs / Commission data protection reforms under fire

BRUSSELS - EU justice commissioner Viviane Reding Thursday (3 May) rejected criticism that certain provisions within her draft proposal on data protection rules could amount to a power-grab by the European Commission.

She was forced onto the defensive after a high-level expert committee in March said the commission would be making too many changes to current data protection rules without proper oversight - potentially leading to legal uncertainty.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:59:25 PM EST
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...too many changes to current data protection rules without proper oversight - potentially leading to legal uncertainty.

In other words: the bill has become a dog's meal of lobbyist prioities with no thought given to the overall effect. Typical of lobby driven legislation where there are numerous interested lobbies.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 11:01:50 AM EST
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Isn't Reading the one who wanted to shut down the Internet for having the annoying habit of beating her buddies in the commercial press to the scoops?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 11:16:44 AM EST
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EUobserver.com / Social Affairs / EU austerity is feeding racism, report says

BRUSSELS - EU austerity measures are helping to feed racism and intolerance, according to a report by the Strasbourg-based human rights watchdog, the Council of Europe.

In its annual survey out on Thursday (3 May), the council's European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI), said welfare cuts and shrinking job opportunities are factors behind the recent rise in intolerance and violence directed at immigrants and other vulnerable minorities.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:03:27 PM EST
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[No Shit, Sherlock!]

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:18:55 AM EST
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EUobserver.com / Political Affairs / French election debate: nasty but inconclusive

BRUSSELS - Some 20 million French people tuned in on Wednesday evening (2 May) to watch a tense and insult-laden debate between the two candidates in Sunday's presidential election. The discussion was almost three hours long but produced no clear winner.

Incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy tried to set the frame by saying that voters must be clear after the TV show on what each man plans to do in his five years in office.

He spent much of his time tearing into parts of socialist challenger Francois Hollande's programme - such as his intention to hire 60,000 new teachers.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:04:07 PM EST
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Eurointelligence Daily Briefing: Bayrou will vote for Hollande, but the polling gap is closing
Francois Bayrou said he will vote for Francois Hollande, marking another setback for Nicolas Sarkozy; Bayrou said it was his personal choice, and did not constitute a recommendation; some of latest polls suggest that the gap between Hollande and Sarkozy may have narrowed to 5 points, but other polls disagree; Hollande is considered to have been the winner of the debate; Philip Stephens says there is no need to fret about a victory by Francois Hollande; Merkel says (implausibly) that she looks forward to working with Hollande; Süddeutsche Zeitung asks whether France will become another Italy after Sunday; Mario Draghi calls for a ten-year strategy for the eurozone; there was no policy change at the ECB yesterday; Fitch has a complex chart showing what will be happen to the eurozone under different scenarios; the FDP's chairman's popularity has sunk to new lows ahead of a crucial set of state elections; Antonis Samaras makes a desperate last ditch plea to his country ahead of Sunday's elections; Austria agrees a national stability pact; Martin Wolf says that austerity policy that lack credibility will collapse dismally; Seamus Coffey says the fiscal treaty's debt reduction rule is no big deal; John McHale, meanwhile, proposes a 4% inflation target.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 04:25:20 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:39:04 PM EST
China car boom lifts Porsche to record sales | Business News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Chinese millionaires' growing appetite for luxury has propelled German sports car maker Porsche to a new quarterly sales record. China has overtaken the US as Porsche's largest market.

Porsche sales in China soared 79 percent to 7,099 cars in the first three months of 2012, leaving the sports car manufacturer's deliveries to the US trailing at 6,671 vehicles, the company based in Stuttgart said Thursday.

In its home market Germany, sales were also rising markedly with an increase of 32.6 percent to a total of 3,873 cars, Porsche said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:42:29 PM EST
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Loans to Greece: Lucrative for Germany? | Germany | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Providing Greece with loans is a smart invest investment for Germany - that's the way former Greek Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos sees it. German finance experts disagree.

Germanyhas earned 400 million euros ($525 million) in the last two years through loans to Greece - that's the figure given by Evangelos Venizelos, chairman of the Greek social democratic PASOK party. The amount comes from the substantial interest on loans Germany has given Greece, he said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:51:21 PM EST
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EUobserver.com / Economic Affairs / UK minister furious at EU bank talks

BRUSSELS - An acrimonious 16-hour long meeting on stricter bank rules ended with a promise to clinch a final deal on 15 May, with Britain's George Osborne at one point saying the envisaged agreement would make him "look like an idiot."

"We discussed a huge number of things, from 10am when the meeting began until now, two in the night. We can say we have an agreement, it needs technical work until it's completely done - by 15 May," Danish economy minister Margrethe Vestager, who chaired the meeting, said at a press conference early on Thursday morning (3 May).



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:01:47 PM EST
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Oh George, making you look like an idiot ? Let me count the ways...

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:26:41 AM EST
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 WORLD 


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:39:20 PM EST
Syrian forces attack student dorms, killing four | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Syrian security forces have stormed student dorms at a university in the northwest of the country in an attempt to break up anti-government protests, reportedly killing at least four students and wounding several more.

Around 1,500 students were protesting in student quarters next to Aleppo University's main campus late Wednesday when security forces and pro-regime gunmen moved into their residences, firing tear gas at first, then live ammunition to disperse them.

In the lead-up to the attack, students at the university had been staging almost daily protests calling for the fall of President Bashar Assad's regime.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:41:31 PM EST
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US releases 17 documents seized at Bin Laden compound | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

The US has released 17 documents found over a year ago when special forces raided a compound in Pakistan and killed Osama bin Laden. The letters published portray a man frustrated by his underlings' incompetence.

As part of a string of activities apparently marking the anniversary of the death of Osama Bin Laden, the US authorized the release of 17 documents discovered in the fatal raid on his home in Abbottabad, Pakistan, on May 2, 2011.

"On the basis of the 17 declassified documents, Bin Ladin was not, as many thought, the puppet master pulling the strings that set motion jihadi groups around the world," the Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) says in its introduction to the documents. "Bin Ladin was burdened by what he saw as their incompetence."



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:46:01 PM EST
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The letters released make up just a fraction of the roughly 100 pieces of computer or data storage equipment initially seized from the Pakistani compound in Abbottabad.
Upon reading that, a piece written by Henry David Thoreau immediately came to mind "A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers ; Walden, Or, Life in the...":
Every man casts a shadow; not his body only, but his imperfectly mingled spirit. This is his grief. Let him turn which way he will, it falls opposite to the sun; short at noon, long at eve.  Did you never see it? -- But, referred to the sun, it is widest at its base, which is no greater than his own opacity. The divine light is diffused almost entirely around us, and by means of refraction of light, or else by a certain self luminousness, or, as some will have it transparency, if we preserve ourselves untarnished, we are able to enlighten our shaded side.  At any rate, our darkest grief has that bronzed color of the moon eclipsed.  There is no ill which may not be dissipated, like the dark, if you let in a stronger light upon it.  Shadows, referred to the source of light, are pyramids whose bases are never greater than those of the substances which cast them, but light is a spherical congeries of pyramids whose very apexes are the sun itself, and hence the system shines with uninterrupted light.  But if the light we use is but a paltry and narrow taper, most objects will cast a shadow wider than themselves.


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 10:49:44 PM EST
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given that bin Laden was himself no great strategist, that's quite the damning comment.

Of course most of the targeting by al Qaeda is dumb and self-defeating. That's because these guys are too much in love with the romantic notion of their own death to consider the wider significance of what they do. Who needs strategy when you're planning to be dead ?

Thank goodness for that because otherwise they might really be a problem

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:32:05 AM EST
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US-Chinese talks open under shadow of a dissident's fate | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Senior officials from the US and China opened two days of strategic and economic talks on Thursday. But nobody wanted to mention what must have really been on their minds - the fate of Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, is representing the US at the conference, raised the issue of human rights in her opening speech but did not refer to dissident Chen Guangcheng by name.

The US believes that "all governments have to answer our citizens' aspirations for dignity and the rule of law and that no nation can or should deny those rights," Clinton said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:47:36 PM EST
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Was her pronouncement met with outrage or chuckles? Or merely indifference?
by Andhakari on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 04:38:03 AM EST
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Clinton, with Geithner in tow, had the effrontery and unwisdom to refer to the need to maintain the rule of law! Some MF Global victim should, from China, demand that the Obama Administration, through its Justice Department, uphold the rule of law in the financial markets, where its systematic absense is most notably on display just now.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 11:13:59 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:39:42 PM EST
FAO: World food prices 'stabilizing at high level' | Business News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

The United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) has registered the first drop in global food prices in April after months of increases. Record crops this year are expected to meet rising global food demand.

World food prices were stabilizing at a "relatively high level" in April, after they had been steadily rising in the first three months of the year, the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) said Thursday.

FAO's Food Outlook - a twice-yearly global market analysis - said food prices fell by 1.4 percent from March to April this year, driving down the organization's Food Price Index to 214 points from 217 points registered in the previous month.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:41:59 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:40:35 PM EST
Court issues fines for broadcast of 'Persepolis' | News | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

After broadcasting the film 'Persepolis' in October, an animated film that contains a depiction of God forbidden in Islam, a Tunisian TV station boss has been slapped with a fine.

The head of a television station that screened the award-winning Franco-Iranian film "Persepolis" in October was fined by a Tunisian court on Thursday for "broadcasting a film that disturbs public order and threatens proper morals."

The animated film, which is a take on the Iranian revolution through the eyes of a young girl, includes a depiction of God, which is considered sacrilegious in Islam.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:43:44 PM EST
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Press freedom in danger | World | DW.DE | 03.05.2012

Nineteen journalists have been killed and more than 160 imprisoned since January 2012. DW rounds up expert views on the situation around the globe in commemoration of World Press Freedom Day.

The upheaval in the Arab world has led to dramatic changes, but it hasn't necessarily made life easier for journalists. The degree of press freedom varies strongly from country to country, said Michael Rediske, on the board of Reporters without Borders Germany.

Reporters without Borders releases an annual "Press Freedom Ranking." The current list contains 179 countries. The authors surveyed academics/scientists/researchers, lawyers, and human rights activists, in addition to journalists, to rank each country.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:49:09 PM EST
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Coming soon to an OECD country near you: David Graeber: New Police Strategy in New York - Sexual Assault Against Peaceful Protestors (Naked Capitalism)
One of the great themes of Occupy Wall Street, of course, is the death of US democracy--the near-total capture of our political system by Wall Street firms and the financial power of the 1%. In the beginning the emphasis was on political corruption, the fact that both parties so beholden to the demands of Wall Street and corporate lobbyists that working within the political system to change anything has become simply meaningless. Recent events have demonstrated just how much deeper the power of money really goes. It is not just the political class. It is the very structure of American government, starting with the law and those who are sworn to enforce it--police officers who, as even this brief illustration makes clear, are directly in the pay of and under the orders of Wall Street executives, and who, as a result, are willing to systematically violate their oaths to protect the public when members of that public have the temerity to make a public issue out of exactly these kind of arrangements.

As Gandhi revealed, non-violent protest is effective above all because it reveals how power really operates: it lays bare the violence it is willing to unleash on even the most peaceful citizens when they dare to challenge its moral legitimacy. And by doing so, it reveals the true moral bankruptcy of those who claim authority to rule us. Occupy Wall Street has demonstrated this time and time again. What the current spate of assaults shows is just how low, to what levels of utter moral degradation, such men are really willing to sink.

Update (3:40 PM): In comments, a reader asked why I did not go to the media. My response:

To be honest my first impulse was to call a sympathetic Times reporter. He said he was going to see if he could spin a story out of it. Apparently his editors told him it wasn't news.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:18:22 PM EST
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Alleged US Army doc: re-education camps and psy-op missions aimed at activists

An American military document just uncovered appears to detail an US Army plan that calls for detaining "political activists" at re-education camps staffed by military-hired "PSYOP officers" in both America and abroad.

The website Infowars.com has unearthed the smoking gun, a copy of a United States military manual entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations, which appears to offer Defense Department insiders instructions on dealing with the imprisonment of anyone considered an enemy to the American way of life and how to go about indoctrination them with an "appreciation of US policies and actions" through psychological warfare.

The PDF made available is dated February 2010 but has only now been leaked online. A copy of the document has been uploaded to the website PublicIntelligence.net for viewing, and additionally a version appears to be hosted on the US Military's Doctrine and Training Publications page at armypubs.us.army.mil, although access to papers published there are unavailable to those without the Pentagon's authorization, therefore making it impossible to verify the authenticity of the manual at this time. The military site that appears to host a copy has also implemented security measures on its servers that it cautions visitors are "not for your personal benefit or privacy."

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Throughout the manual, the DoD outlines methods to go about detaining US military prisoners captured for both "battlefield and nonbattlefield confinement," how to rehabilitate them to "ensure a successful return to society" and "psychological operations (PSYOP), practices and procedures to support I/R operations."

Fifty-six pages into the manual, its authors explain the role of psychological operations officers regarding internment and resettlement, and explain that they will be responsible for developing methods designed "to pacify and acclimate detainees or DCs to accept U.S. I/R facility authority and regulations." PSYOP officers, the manual adds, identify "malcontents, trained agitators, and political leaders within the facility who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances."

You can get a copy for your reading pleasure here.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 01:46:38 AM EST
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I believe George Orwell detailed some of these techniques in his early CIA training manual "1984 - the efficacy of rats"

Also, this is a useful warning of another of the techniques that power will use, agents provocateurs

Dailykos - Occupy's Greatest Enemy: The Black Block

Having seen at close quarters how effective these groups are at derailing protest marches, I expect to be more and more of this happening. Occupy is going to have to be a lot more disciplined about their tactics to resist these people.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:38:52 AM EST
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See also: Historicizing "Violence": Thoughts on the Hedges/Graeber Debate (February 13, 2012)
There has been a running debate, started by Chris Hedges, over the proper tactics of street protests and the role of violence in the Occupy Movement. Hedges, who was one of the first writers with an audience to support Occupy Wall Street, attacked Black Bloc, which he mistakenly seems to have identified as a cohesive movement, rather than a tactic. Black Bloc occurs when protesters dress the same (normally in black hoodies), move in a pack, and, often, provoke confrontation with the cops by smashing windows, overturning garbage cans, etc... By dressing the same, they make it far more difficult for police to single out individuals. Coming on the heels of the Oakland protests, Hedges called the Black Bloc, a "cancer" on the movement, who provoke unnecessary repression by the state, distract from the message, and practice a sort of negative politics of aggression, in which confrontation and the symbolism of militancy takes the place of organizing and coalition building.

In reply, David Graeber, one of the grandfathers of OWS, defended the Black Bloc. He corrected some of Hedges' factual inaccuracies, but resorted to a fairly hysterical response to Hedges' (admittedly unnecessarily provocative) language, accusing Hedges of using a rhetoric that "historically, has been invoked by those encouraging one group of people to physically attack, ethnically cleanse, or exterminate another," and arguing that Hedges would be read as a call to violence against Black Bloc. (I, at least, sure didn't read Hedges' article as a call for genocide). More reasonably he pointed out that the police almost always resort to violence and that the media almost always blame this violence on protesters, whether or not the Black Bloc is involved. State repression will happen no matter what that kid in the black hoodie does. Finally he argued that the mythologies that have developed around supposedly non-violent movements have obscured how often they involved violent activities, most often of a far more deadly sort.

The most important part of Graeber's defence of Black Bloc is, however, this:
Black Bloc is a tactic, not a group. It is a tactic where activists don masks and black clothing (originally leather jackets in Germany, later, hoodies in America), as a gesture of anonymity, solidarity, and to indicate to others that they are prepared, if the situation calls for it, for militant action. The very nature of the tactic belies the accusation that they are trying to hijack a movement and endanger others. One of the ideas of having a Black Bloc is that everyone who comes to a protest should know where the people likely to engage in militant action are, and thus easily be able to avoid it if that's what they wish to do.
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I am also an anarchist who has participated in many Black Blocs. While I have never personally engaged in acts of property destruction, I have on more than one occasion taken part in Blocs where property damage has occurred. (I have taken part in even more Blocs that did not engage in such tactics. It is a common fallacy that this is what Black Blocs are all about. It isn't.)

I was hardly the only Black Bloc veteran who took part in planning the initial strategy for Occupy Wall Street. In fact, anarchists like myself were the real core of the group that came up with the idea of occupying Zuccotti Park, the "99%" slogan, the General Assembly process, and, in fact, who collectively decided that we would adopt a strategy of Gandhian non-violence and eschew acts of property damage. Many of us had taken part in Black Blocs. We just didn't feel that was an appropriate tactic for the situation we were in.

However, the DKos piece does point out that the Black Block does provide cover for Agent Provocateurs, and that is a major weakness of the tactic.

Also: Open Letter to David Graeber and Chris Hedges...

Dear Distinguished Dudes,
As a member of this `struggle' I cannot help but see in the debate you both articulate something fallacious from the outset, something I am going to speculate comes from being too informed by history, the result of over-education.  This is not meant to be disrespectful.  I have a deep admiration for both of you, but that admiration must be put aside in order to speak to my own vision of what is occurring.
LOL.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 05:12:13 AM EST
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(I haven't followed the Hedges/Graeber debate, but) Graeber's explanation above for the Black Bloc "tactic" is angelic to say the least. As a tactic it has been long outplayed by its vulnerability to infiltration by agents provocateurs or by copycat groups causing violence for no reason, or to genuine Black Bloc groups who believe that violence is what it's all about.

The notion of the Black Bloc as a kind of additional security service looking after the defence of the majority of demonstrators depends greatly on discipline and overall organisation. Mass demonstrations in Paris in the post-1968 years had a "military" section to fight the police if necessary, but these were organised in a hierarchical manner by leftist parties. This died out when gauchiste parties failed to gain traction with mass opinion in the country, and found themselves up against the choice of further radicalising violence, ie by targeted assassinations, or looking for other methods of influencing opinion (out of which, among other things, came the newspaper Libération).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 05:44:31 AM EST
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The destruction caused by the Black Bloc in Genova in 2001 gave the police an excuse for the Diaz raid which ended in one of the gravest violation of human rights in Europe post WWII. The few Black Blocs who were identified or interviewed by reporters pointed to a network of hooligans whose only guiding principle there was violence and destruction.

It was Berlusconi's inaugural address.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 05:55:44 AM EST
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Migeru:
However, the DKos piece does point out that the Black Block does provide cover for Agent Provocateurs, and that is a major weakness of the tactic.

The problem of the "Black Bloc tactic" is that the Agents Provocateur are functionally indistinguishable from the ordinary decent anarchists who only want to fuck things up and provoke police brutality.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 07:06:38 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 03:40:53 PM EST
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu May 3rd, 2012 at 04:12:34 PM EST
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Yes, everyone was aware there were a lot of drugs going around and a lot of cocaine among senior echolons.

But that was mostly recreational. The real problem was drink, an awful lot of people were pissed far too much of the time and it was just considered normal. And no, I wasn't one of them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:43:04 AM EST
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The article about drugs at the BBC doesn't mention the years involved, but I know for a fact that drink was a problem for some reporters at the Finnish Broadcasting Company YLE back in the late 60s through mid-70s. A relative who was a political reporter during the time (until he got canned) tells some wild tales about the goings on back in those days. Unfortunately, much to my great regret because he was one of my favorite people, he is no longer with us. Largely do to drink. Sad story really.
by sgr2 on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 07:51:45 AM EST
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When I was at the BBC late 60s, early 70s (Horizon science series) it was still called Auntie - very staid.

I have a fund of sadly amusing stories of the inebriates at old Yle! But the problem affected many of the large corporations of the time.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 08:17:56 AM EST
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Were you at Kensington House at that time ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 11:47:24 AM EST
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Yup, but our documentary production company Tattooist was a very early sub-contractor - we didn't have a permanent base at Ken Hse. But I did have a staff number.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 01:15:19 PM EST
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I was there for a short period in the mid 90s, a strange mix of groups.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 01:20:43 PM EST
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in the olden days, for some people, living in some places, were SOP.

It's probably hard to imagine for anyone who didn't live through it, but I remember the "three martini lunches" with the boss, and later the mirrors, razor blades and straws, etc., that seemed to be on offer everywhere. "Hello, have a line" seemed to be the standard greeting. Just a sign of the times maybe. Thankfully, for our bodies, our souls, and our pocketbooks, we made it through and we're still alive.

by sgr2 on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 12:26:58 PM EST
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Speaking of martinis always reminds me of Dorothy Parker and her take on the matter:

"I like to have a martini, two at the very most. After three I'm under the table, and after four I'm under the host."  

Truer words were never spoken. ;-)

by sgr2 on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 12:44:47 PM EST
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We used to snigger at the ad execs who turned up on location and drank whisky in milk. Disgusting habit. Apart from student days, the booze has never been a hobby. At my age indulgence simply ruins the next day. And though I've tested quite a few mind expanders - several times - I never found them at all creative or at least they have been falsely creative. The good old Grim Reefah has always suited my personality: idea-rich conversations, sensual amplification, a good night's sleep and a positive wake-up, ready for work. Kind of alternative Calvinism.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 01:28:49 PM EST
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Agree with everything you say, with one exception. LSD, for me, was a mind-expanding trip I wouldn't have wanted to miss. I truly believe the experience changed me into a more compassionate person. Strange as that may seem. But now, I'm happily content with your kind of alternative for all the reasons you point out.
by sgr2 on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:17:32 PM EST
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Yes, my experiences with the old blotting paper were extremely valuable, if only to realize that one could go quite close to the distant edge and still be able to return to the mundane. An altered mundanity of course, because the experience enlarges the dimensions of the rather open homeostatic place in the middle that we call reality, when we're at home.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 4th, 2012 at 03:57:47 PM EST
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