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Benevolent hegemon?

by afew Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:00:37 AM EST

Brad DeLong and Barry Eichengreen have written a preface to the new edition of Charles Kindleberger's The World in Depression, 1929-1939 (first edition 1973). After summarising Kindleberger's writing on panic and the speed of contagion, they reach a third point concerning hegemony. Kindleberger stated that the 1930s crisis was deepened and prolonged by the absence of a benevolent hegemon capable of stabilising the financial system: Britain was no longer able to take on that role, and the US not yet willing to do so.

EconoMonitor » New Preface to Charles Kindleberger, The World in Depression 1929-1939

...to our surprise, alarm and dismay, we find ourselves watching a rerun of Europe in 1931. Once more, panic and financial distress are widespread. And, once more, Europe lacks a hegemon – a dominant economic power capable of taking the interests of smaller powers and the operation of the larger international system into account by stabilising flows of finance and spending through the European economy. The ECB does not believe it has the authority: its mandate, the argument goes, requires it to mechanically pursue an inflation target – which it defines in practice as an inflation ceiling. It is not empowered, it argues, to act as a lender of the last resort to distressed financial markets, the indispensability of a lender of last resort in times of crisis being another powerful message of The World in Depression. The EU, a diverse collection of more than two dozen states, has found it difficult to reach a consensus on how to react. And even on those rare occasions where it does achieve something approaching a consensus, the wheels turn slowly, too slowly compared to the crisis, which turns very fast.

The German federal government, the political incarnation of the single most consequential economic power in Europe, is one potential hegemon. It has room for countercyclical fiscal policy. It could encourage the European Central Bank to make more active use of monetary policy. It could fund a Marshall Plan for Greece and signal a willingness to assume joint responsibility, along with its EU partners, for some fraction of their collective debt. But Germany still thinks of itself as the steward [of] a small open economy. It repeats at every turn that it is beyond its capacity to stabilise the European system: “German taxpayers can only bear so much after all”.

It would more probably be argued here on ET that Germany's power as hegemon has been used in this crisis to heap coals of fire on the heads of debt-"sinners", while the advantages of the single currency for the hegemon have been obfuscated. But on to the final point:


DeLong and Eichengreen quote Kindleberger, looking forward from 1973, as seeing three negative developments to fear:

EconoMonitor » New Preface to Charles Kindleberger, The World in Depression 1929-1939

The negative outcomes were: “(a) the United States and the [EU] vying for leadership… (b) one unable to lead and the other unwilling, as in 1929 to 1933… (c) each retaining a veto… without seeking to secure positive programmes…”

As we write, the North Atlantic world appears to have fallen foul to his bad outcome (c), with extraordinary political dysfunction in the US preventing its government from acting as a benevolent hegemon, and the ruling mandarins of Europe, in Germany in particular, unwilling to step up and convince their voters that they must assume the task.

Kindleberger's conclusion: "In these circumstances, the third positive alternative of international institutions with real authority and sovereignty is pressing."

Right, wrong, half-right, half-wrong?

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There's an obvious question there of the influence of the hegemon on the design, structure, and functioning of the international institutions. Example ECB.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:02:21 AM EST
This analysis does seem consistent with that of Yanis Varofoukas in The Global Minotaur, where he sees the system of capital flows through Wall Street that had organized the world since the late '70s as having been seriously wounded by the events of 2007-2008. Given the inherent instabilities built into that system, both from the point of view of capital flows - the accumulation of debts and credits, the shifts of real economic activity to the emerging nations - and the progressive weakening of internal controls on finance in the USA - I would say it is more like the Minotaur first grew fat, then developed diabetes, then started having strokes and limbs amputated. I think the Minotaur is terminal, but who knows how long he can take to die? I fear he will live until he has consumed all there is to consume in his country of domicile and his most tightly held tributaries. That could take another two decades and then another decade before his servants admit he has died. Meanwhile, the physical environment continues to warm...  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 07:25:59 AM EST
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The US had to go though the Depression, the New Deal and WWII over 15 years before it could generate an elite willing and able to embark in the institution-building of the post-war period. If we have to wait for 15 yeas for Germany to undergo a similar generational shift, we're looking at 2025. Which ties in with my estimation of the time when the "Erasmus Generation' of Europeans will be old enough to be in leadership positions.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:17:54 AM EST
Yes! We only have to wait until people like Weber and Starck are replaced by young people of the Erasmus generation like Asmussend and Weidmann and then...
by IM on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:26:29 AM EST
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Hahaha... <sob>

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:48:51 AM EST
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Part of the point is that the American Cold Warriors/New Dealers in the 1940s and 50s had lived through the Great Depression and were pragmatic but determined to do whatever they could to prevent another Depression (which seemed to be looming with the post-war demobilization). Things like the Marshall Plan were ways to create demand which the US would produce as exporter of last resort. They were also a generation of younger technocrats. So it's a question of the 50-somethings of the 2020 allowing the 30-somethings to build the new institutions.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 06:58:21 AM EST
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Migeru:
So it's a question of the 50-somethings of the 2020 allowing the 30-somethings to build the new institutions.

It would probably take something on the order of a world war to bring that about.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 07:25:23 AM EST
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You should note that in Germany and probably in much of Europe the generation now between 45 and 55 is the most despised of all. They keep the upper echelon seats occupied, yet are rather below average competency, had it all when they were younger and yet keep complaining.
by oliver on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 09:30:01 AM EST
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Kids today. Now the old generation who participated in a real war...
by IM on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 09:59:30 AM EST
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When (in the mid-2020s), the current 45-55 group has moved on and the current 35-45 group has moved up into their slot, should we expect the latter to benignly hand over power to those who are, today, in their early 20s?

Such a switch is unlikely to happen in the absence of considerably traumatic events, hence my comment.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:29:28 AM EST
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Truman's generation didn't have to give power to the Galbraith generation, but the latter were the public servants that implemented and designed the plans.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 04:07:38 PM EST
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Yes, or rather to a larger degree, as they are fewer (and perhaps less tainted by educational experiments of the 70ies)
by oliver on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 11:10:08 AM EST
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The 50-somethings of today are hard at work on that.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 09:30:28 AM EST
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I'm not sure that the 15 years is a benchmark. What happened with the US doesn't necessarily apply to the current situation.

Might be shorter, might... be longer.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 07:23:08 AM EST
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Yes, complex systems will throw all manner of accelerated spanners into the equation.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 07:58:51 AM EST
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It may be a matter of generational change, and 15 years is a conventional length of "a generation" (in political terms, in biological terms it's probably 30 years).

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 09:29:33 AM EST
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Strauss and Howe's Generations describes a pattern of four distinctive generational types which succeed one another in a specific sequence. They argue that this pattern goes back at least to Elizabethan times in the Anglo world. Dominant generations, such as the US 'boomers' exercise outsized influence throughout their lifespan, while others, such as the generation which preceded the 'boomers' can be much less influential. They postulate an 18 to 20 year generational cycle and held out great hope for the 'millennial generation, the children of the boomers born mostly between the late 70s and the year 2000. The career prospects of those born after 1990 are now being severely stunted by the GFC. The next ten years should show if they will live up to the hopes Strauss and Howe placed in them.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:25:33 AM EST
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My daughter, who falls into that range, is constantly quoting 19th century radical economists to me, so maybe there is a possibility...
by asdf on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 01:34:29 PM EST
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We can hope.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 02:00:42 PM EST
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Fourth Generational Turning Point
Generational long-cycle theory would predict another major war (or equivalent "secular crisis") in the 2020's.

This hideous html page contains discussion of Schlesinger political cycles that work out at an average of 16 to 17 years, so not far off 15. Also of Strauss and Howe.

These apply to US political life. I don't know how political cycles apply to Europe, or specifically Germany.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:35:41 AM EST
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I do not know economics, nor synchronous, nor diachronic. But I can not get out of my mind the idea that the function of money was different from what has become at this critical time. And I think this is very important.
Money to produce goods, whose sale provides money, is different than money to make money, that is, different  than conversion of money into commodity trading in itself.
If we add the communication speed of new media, the problem increases.

I do not know, but I see in  role of money  an important issue that needs to be raised in the hypothetical solution to the current crisis.

But who takes away the bell and the feed to the cat? Another hegemonic cat?

If a hegemonic cat is capable of it, it is a statesman. But ...?

by PerCLupi on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:41:17 AM EST
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The economist and architect Ricardo Vergés (one of the few who saw the building disaster of Spain housing market) agrees with you, calling them good money and bad money. In his last paper, he says that the big flows of money coming from Frankfurt to Spain in the last years of the bubble were too big to be well earned money from depositors, and the government should distinguish between good and bad money in their negotiations with Brussels, before signing to pay Spain's debts with good money coming from working people's taxes.

Tons of sense and simple: good money vs bad money.

by kukute on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:15:53 AM EST
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I've seen it. Thank you! But I do not like good/bad: they have moral connotations. I think, if money is needed for social development, it may be appropriate/ unappropiate to its function. In this sense, it is legitimate to regulate its operation.
by PerCLupi on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 03:11:07 PM EST
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Money to produce goods, whose sale provides money, is different than money to make money

The difference between a craftsman and a businessman is that the craftsman makes things, while the businessman makes nothing but money.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:22:08 AM EST
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My experience in electronics contracting is that both craftsmanship and business acumen are required to succeed in that endeavor. And a successful contracting business is one of the best ways to build wealth. I have known many who started with very little and came to have net worth in excess of a million dollars in year 2000 dollars. But they installed conduit, wire and electronics that performed valuable functions.

Unfortunately, finance, in the sense of manipulating money to make money, is most easily made profitable by creating asset bubbles and riding the bubble up, exiting at the top and then betting on the collapse. Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms certainly did that between 2000 and now. The process strongly favors those who understand the cycle. Given his chosen time for retirement, I strongly suspect that Greenspan thoroughly understood this.

Even more unfortunate is the ruins left across the landscape by the effects of the bursting bubble on those who were neither clued in to the process and its timing nor lucky in their timing. But this process was well described by Minsky, as were the effective measures to prevent such destruction. But not blowing bubbles was no fun for the Masters Of The Universe.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 02:19:47 PM EST
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for why he ranked merchants as the lowest of the four social classes, because they did not produce anything
by wu ming on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 03:00:53 AM EST
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Which class were the bankers in?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 03:58:52 AM EST
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first through buddhist monasteries transferring and lending cash long distance in the medieval period, then with secular moneylenders in the late imperial periods. neoconfucianism and popular religion in the late ming dynasty (esp. 16th century) did begin to adopt the banking rhetoric of accounting and investment to speak of managing one's sin and merit, to a degree, but bankers and merchants were officially considered politically base until very late into the 18th and early 19th century, and really came into their own only in the 20th century. for most of chinese history, merchants were barred from taking the civil service exam, and for much of that period, their offspring were as well, even if they weren't occupationally merchants.

one can make an argument that maoism has its confucian influences, when it comes to ranking social class.

by wu ming on Thu Jun 21st, 2012 at 03:31:18 PM EST
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W*stern banking started with the Western Unions started by the Templar Knights, according to my reading of history. But I may have watched too much Discovery Channel at some point in time - possibly during the period in which I spent a considerable amount of time in hotels.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jun 21st, 2012 at 03:53:52 PM EST
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How big does the economy of the hegemon have to be in relationship to the overall economy under discussion? The U.S. economy is big enough to fix the U.S. problem, presumably. Is the German economy big enough to fix the European problem? Or with the semi-unified European economy, does it take a modified ECB to have enough span of control to accomplish what is required?
by asdf on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 08:31:27 AM EST
Germany has always been too big in Europe not to be an issue and too small to be able to solve it on its own (can't remember the exact quote on this right now)

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 09:29:41 AM EST
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In Europe it's a question of Germany leading a common effort, as the solution must be, instead of leading us over the cliff.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:25:12 AM EST
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Germany has always been too big in Europe not to be an issue and too small to be able to solve it on its own...

That is certainly how Merkel sees it and it appears that Germany is big enough to block any solution it does not like.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:29:13 AM EST
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Germany has veto power. As have France and Italy, possibly even Spain. Those nations have the potential to bring down the EU if they really want to.
by oliver on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 11:13:25 AM EST
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Germany is not big and strong enough to get it done all by herself, but she is big and strong enough to lead the way, and get the rest to fall in behind her. Though hopefully not into the abyss.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 10:58:28 AM EST
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the United States and the [EU] vying for leadership...

This does not make sense. If a curremcy wants some kind of world financial role, that government must provide markets currency with trade deficits. In Europe the ideology is just the opposite.

by kjr63 on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:18:04 AM EST
If you search for a benevolent hegemon and find none, there are otehr conclusions then the lack of a hegemon to explain the result.

European Tribune - Benevolent hegemon?

The ECB does not believe it has the authority: its mandate, the argument goes, requires it to mechanically pursue an inflation target - which it defines in practice as an inflation ceiling. It is not empowered, it argues, to act as a lender of the last resort to distressed financial markets, the indispensability of a lender of last resort in times of crisis being another powerful message of The World in Depression.

And if you asked them the Egyptian supreme court does not engage in politics, yet they fired the parliament.

The ECB use their power as lender of last resort to move power and dictate policy (ECB has minders in how many countries now?). There is no lack of money for banks at low rates.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 02:42:57 PM EST
Doesn't matter how much money a finance firm has if there isn't anything to invest in at a price and ROI the firm is willing to accept.  Investments in productive enterprises returns 4% to (if you're lucky) 8%; investments in bullshit financial instruments will run anywhere from 6% to (if you're lucky) 2,000%.  One reason being it's impossible to leverage the capital of a productive investment to the same extent as a bullshit financial investment (sic.)  Further, the employees of a financial firm are rewarded by the short-term, usually one year, return on the bets investments they control.  Couple with the fact governments have shown they will backstop any losses with Public Funds ... it's off to the casino!

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 03:29:38 PM EST
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Wasn't it the case that everything was done after WWII to help Germany back on its feet...by <ahem> writing off its debt...so shouldnt Germany promote writing off the debt of Greece (and other southern countries), to help them back on their feet. Not holding my breath, but the good will it would create...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Tue Jun 19th, 2012 at 11:54:15 PM EST
There is an important difference. GIIPS do not have enough divisions to start a major revanchist war.

Now, GIIPSF, on the other hand...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 01:40:35 AM EST
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i had a dream that as a gesture of solidarity, as many europeans as could, went to greece this summer for a holiday.

of course if they go back to the drachma, it would probably happen anyway...

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 04:05:03 AM EST
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There is a lot about Greece in the vacation pages this year. Safety and cheapness appears to be the main questions, both in general answered with a yes. Also as a general question, I saw that one paper covered the issue of if euro bills and coins will loose all value if the euro collapses.

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 04:45:27 AM EST
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Just read this: Germany, Greece and the Marshall Plan (June 15th 2012)
Albrecht Ritschl is professor of economic history at the London School of Economics and a member of the advisory board to the German ministry of economics.

OLD myths die hard, and the Marshall Plan is one of them. In the New York Times of June 12th German economist Hans-Werner Sinn invokes comparisons with the Marshall Plan to defend Germany's position against Eurobonds, the pooling of sovereign debt within the euro zone. His worries are understandable, but the historical analogy is mistaken, and the numbers mean little. All this unnecessarily weakens his case.

Mr Sinn argues against Germany's detractors that Marshall Aid to postwar West Germany was low compared to Germany's recent assistance, debt guarantees etc. to Greece. While Marshall Aid cumulatively amounted to 4% of West German GDP around 1950 (his figure of 2% is too low but that doesn't matter), recent German aid has exceeded 60% of Greece's GDP, and total European assistance to Greece is now above 200% of Greek GDP. That makes the Marshall Plan look like a pittance. And it strips all the calls for German gratitude in memory of the Marshall Plan off their legitimacy. Or does it?

What Mr Sinn is invoking is just the outer shell of the Marshall Plan, the sweetener that was added to make a large political package containing bitter pills more palatable to the public in Paris and London. The financial core of the Marshall Plan was something much, bigger, an enormous sovereign debt relief programme. Its main beneficiary was a state that did not even exist when the Marshall Plan was started, and that was itself a creation of that plan: West Germany.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 20th, 2012 at 07:01:04 AM EST
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So Sinn is a historical revisionist. Who would'a thunk...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 01:57:31 PM EST
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