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by Nomad Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:48:20 AM EST

Hops aboard!


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This place is becoming rather malty-culti now, isn't it?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:16:36 PM EST
Well, I've certinly begun to rebel against the number of monotonous slightly yellow but fairly hoppy in a repellent citrus-y way alcoholic waters currently being served up over here as cutting edge beer.

Give me a mid brown malty bitter and I'm happy. Don't get me wrong, I still love hoppy beers, but there's really got to be a lot more going on than just hop flavour to grab me.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:29:44 PM EST
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You've described my analysis of Pinkus Müller perfectly.

Non-monotonous slightly yellow but fairly hoppy in an attractive citrus-y way, with lots of natural particles of something floating around.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:42:10 PM EST
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don't worry, it's just an affliction ruining British beer right now. I dont apply it to european beer

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:02:59 PM EST
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We sorely need a backlash against IPA hopfest beers.

I was in a pub the other day and of six pumps, four of them were IPA or nu-IPA style beers.

This is not a good selection of choice.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:42:38 PM EST
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I wouldn't mind so much, but they justify them on the basis that these are building on the very trendy American super hoppy beers going around.

Yea, but no but yea.

The Yanks would never brew the sorry excuses of unbalanced mess currently masquerading as beer currently being delivered out of too many handpumps. they have super hoppy beers, but they balance them with a body of malt and fruit flavour. these bguely yellow things are just cheap and nasty, brewed with the least amount of pale (cheapest) malt possible and all the flaws covered over with a bucket of hops. And not good hops either, but grapefruit and lemon flavour hops with low bitterness. It's not good beer, it's flawed.

Sadly, I'm usually  couple of years ahead of fashion, I was into hop monsters 3 years back and that wave has now crashed over, it may be with us a couple of years yet.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:59:45 PM EST
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I'm no beer hipster but I have to think the hipsters have moved on from IPAs here in the US. Wish I knew what it was.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:57:18 PM EST
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A lot of the places that I visit have 6-10 taps (1 or 2 IPAs only). A quick check of the nearby orders shows diverse choices - Stout to Pilsener.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 03:49:40 PM EST
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I definitely enjoy some pilsner.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 08:39:50 PM EST
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Makes me think of dublin. You can have a choice of Stout, Porter or porter stout. Oh and a couple of other aberrations like Red ale, but nobody in their right mind would drink that

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:52:58 PM EST
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I've hardly touched Porters or Stouts since I moved to California - they just don't make sense to me in a place where it doesn't get winter-cold. When I lived in Boston they were my primary drink.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 08:41:39 PM EST
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Yet, Guinness is a huge drink across Africa, where it's known to get warmish

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 02:46:06 AM EST
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Well, I've picked up the neww car. It's very nice but any plans I might have had to go for a drive have been thwarted by the weather. It just ain't nice enough to drive around.

So, I'm burning CDs for the CD player.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:31:15 PM EST
Need to stop posting diaries.  Every time I do the entire world crashes in, burying me under 16 tons of "MUST do NOW!  MUST do NOW!"

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:07:56 PM EST
And somebody waltzed in and stole my cereal bowl!

(I think the sub-text was, "Stop messing around and get back to work.")

:-(

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:12:57 PM EST
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Good to know that blogging can help make improvements.

School dinner blogger Martha Payne explains it has led to 'big improvements' in the meals - Telegraph

A nine-year-old whose internet postings about her school dinners became an international hit said the meals have shown a "big improvement" since she started the blog.

Martha Payne has built up an audience of more than six million people after she started posting pictures and marking her meals out of 10 last month.

Her popularity was helped when the local council banned the blog, claiming that it could lead to some of the catering company's staff losing their jobs.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:34:43 PM EST
Sometimes. They tried to silence her, wen that failed, then they did the right thing. But, doing the right thing was not their first impulse

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 03:38:43 PM EST
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GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!

Ooo-waah!

by Nomad on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 01:42:45 PM EST
Or not. This is embarrassingly one sided. The greeks are only surviving by maintaining 9 of their players in their own penalty area.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 03:40:16 PM EST
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1-1!



GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!
GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!
GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!
GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!
GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!
GREECE! GREECE! GREECE! GREECE!

by Nomad on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:01:54 PM EST
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It was too good to be true.

Boo. Hiss. Etc.

by Nomad on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:20:54 PM EST
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4-2. The ref gave the greeks a penalty out of pity.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:50:46 PM EST
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Good for him. At least someone pities austerity.
by Nomad on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:51:52 PM EST
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Yea, but I was down for 4-1, so I feel cheated

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:54:06 PM EST
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"tough but fair" - as the German's view of their treatment of Greece IRL...

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:51:05 PM EST
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aka tough love
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 04:15:45 AM EST
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A lady carrying a baby just walked by my window holding an umbrella for protection from the sun. Which makes perfect sense, since it's the summer solstice and almost noon by local time, which means the sun is as close to directly overhead as it gets. But it's a rare sight around here...
by asdf on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 02:13:08 PM EST

Another visit to C-Power, the Belgian project on which I've worked over the past 5-6 years. Construction is well under way, with 22 new turbines having been installed recently and currently being commissioned.

On the picture, you can see one of the new vessels recently brought into service specifically to work for the industry - a self-propelled jack up with specific storage and crane capacity. When we visited, it was not working as it was getting ready for some storms announced for later in the day. It can install a turbine in 22 hours once in place (it carries the full kit - the tower, nacelle and rotor in one piece)

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 04:58:27 PM EST
Or John Baptist Nativity as the church tried to convert it to. That did not bite here.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Fri Jun 22nd, 2012 at 05:18:00 PM EST
If you have two different groups of people, with about ten in each, one of which all scores above a certain score, the other group all scores below the same score, looking at it by eye it seems obvious that there's a difference,  but is there a simple statistical test that anyone can point me at to show im not talking from my ass If I were to say as such?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 09:58:52 AM EST
I'm not an expert, but I'd look at Pearson's Chi Squared Test.

If that's wrong I'm sure someone will tell you.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 11:01:11 AM EST
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Thanks will look

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jun 23rd, 2012 at 01:02:38 PM EST
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