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by afew Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 11:42:47 AM EST

The ceremony begins


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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 11:43:22 AM EST
Will there be a fireworks display courtesy of the MOD?
by asdf on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 11:52:34 AM EST
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Non-stop fireworks guaranteed, see above.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:03:35 PM EST
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I hate meatpuppets. (If you want to understand the metaphor, know that the point is that the speaker is acting as a proxy for an undisclosed  private interest.  It is as though that interest had inserted themselves into another orifice in order to control them like a puppet.  Hence, meatpuppets.)

This morning I posted a comment on article that basically implied that teacher's unions screw over students to benefit themselves.  The issue I had was that the author of the opinion piece was employed by a right wing think tank, and that the paper had not disclosed this information.

So, apparently only tea party members are allowed to comment.  Literally moments after I had posted my comment, people start chiming in about how I am a "totalitarian" because I think that papers should disclose the context of institutional affiliations when they accept opinion pieces.  For example, this group had previously been headed by the man who is now the Republican candidate for governor in the state. Ironically enough, the tea party crew them proceeds to make comments about how I shouldn't be able to teach at a public university because I am "biased."

I fucking hate these people.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:01:11 PM EST
You win!

Seriously. Anybody who reads the comments section can be in no doubt that the article is a partisan hack job. That reduces the power of the subterfuge considerably.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:12:25 PM EST
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I suppose.  The problem is that there is a whole network of these "thinktanks" that pass themselves off as un-interested parties.


And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:28:57 PM EST
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Some have relabeled themselves as Do Tanks. I suggest that all of them be relabeled as DooDoo Tanks, with some being Deep Doodoo Tanks.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 01:32:10 PM EST
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How about the "disclosure" that Gergen is a Bain investor? How about the question of whether any "business expert commentator" in any part of the media is from the labor side of the discussion?

We get to hear what the Republican Wall Street tycoons think, and what the Democratic Wall Street tycoons think, but no TV station is going to put on a labor leader as a paid consultant--it would not be fair and balanced.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/david-gergen-bain-capital-cnn_n_1682257.html

by asdf on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 01:13:39 PM EST
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I didn't come out and say it, but the context here is that the stories over the past year about the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) have made made the public aware about who these people are, who funds them, and what their agenda is.

As this has happened there has been a lot of pushback from state-level groups that haven't been outed. The network reroutes the influence peddling. Things like Gergen get busted, but there's rarely the interest at the state level to out these sorts of things.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 01:27:09 PM EST
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Reuters: Spain's protest movement grows, morphs as cuts bite
With parliament, besieged for the last week, voting on a package of 65 billion euros ($79.38 billion) of spending cuts and tax hikes, civil servants stopped traffic and invaded ministries ahead of marches called by trade unions in more than 80 cities on Thursday evening.
Um, the parliament is not "besieged", it is cordoned off by police many of metres away.
On Thursday, policemen and members of the Civil Guard took the unusual step of joining the protests.

Civil servants, whose pay was cut by between 3.5 and 7 percent when their Christmas bonus was canceled, have used their daily coffee break this week to protest outside the ruling People's Party (PP) headquarters in Madrid, often shouting "Hands up! This is a stick-up!"



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:12:39 PM EST
ElPais.com in English: Popular Party stands alone in approving draconian austerity drive
The sole opposition lawmaker to back the government was Carlos Salvador of the PP-aligned UPN party from Navarre. The minority leftist parties abandoned the house before the vote took place, which showed 180 in favor of the measures, 131 against, and one abstention.

The latest battery of spending cuts and tax hikes are projected to have an impact on the budget of 65 billion euros over the next two and a half years. The measures include a rise in the standard valued-added tax rate to 21 percent from 18 percent and from eight to 10 percent for the reduced rate. With the exception of lower income public sector workers, civil servants are also set to lose their traditional Christmas bonus.

The austerity drive has caused widespread public discontent, with civil servants taking to the streets to protest. The leading CCOO and UGT unions were readying further protest marches due to commence late Thursday and to be held in 80 cities across the country.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:42:26 PM EST
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The sole opposition lawmaker to back the government was Carlos Salvador of the PP-aligned UPN party from Navarre.

Until 2008 the PP didn't even run candidates in Navarra, because the UPN (Union of Navarran People) was their local affiliate.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:48:04 PM EST
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From the aftermath to yesterday's demonstration in Lavapies, a neighbourhood of Madrid: firefighters are called in to put out some burning garbarge bins. The firefighters come, survey the situation, and leave. Then two ambulance workers put out the fire as two off-duty firefighters among the demonstrations heckle them to 'stick to their job'.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 01:50:52 AM EST
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EconoMonitor: Chart of the Day: Germany Biggest Winner From Euro Fixed Exchange Rates


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 12:43:20 PM EST
Is it just me, or are the images not showing?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 02:07:40 PM EST
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Better to take a look at it on Credit Writedowns.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 03:39:32 PM EST
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thanks!
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 04:57:39 PM EST
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pre-emptive arrest

When Adidas wanted to create a mural to illustrate the launch of its new football boot last year, it turned to "professional graffiti artist" Darren Cullen for help. Cullen, 38, runs a firm providing spraycan artwork and branding to major international companies, and says he has never painted illegally on a wall or train.

But despite having worked with one of the Games's major sponsors, on Tuesday Cullen was arrested by British Transport Police (BTP) and barred from coming within a mile of any Olympic venue, as part of a pre-emptive sweep against a number of alleged graffiti artists before the Olympics.

BTP confirmed that four men from Kent, London and Surrey, aged between 18 and 38, had been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit criminal damage, two of whom were also further arrested on suspicion of incitement to commit criminal damage.

by asdf on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 01:07:05 PM EST
including apparently the guy in discussions to be employed to do Grafiti advertising for the British olympic team...

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 05:39:08 PM EST
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We are certainly in an interesting situation where the authorities can now make pre-emptive arrests. there is no legal basis for these actions, but the elites have decided it's too tempting a weapon to ignore.

I'm not sure that it's legal, but unfortunately the test cases brought against the Met over the Jubilee pre-emps failed. Authoritarianism rules

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 03:09:17 AM EST
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Good evening everyone. Silly question: I just logged in for the first time in... years, I think, to ask a question to Jerome (about wind measurement masts, no less) and I have access to toggled comments.

As far as I remembered this super ability only was available once you have reached a certain average score on enough comments. Or not?

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 03:04:34 PM EST
Go to the top of the page, click on the UnEstranAvec (& etc.) Page option, click on Settings, then click the "Info" button.

My bet is it will say you are a Trusted User

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 03:48:43 PM EST
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Nickname: UnEstranAvecVueSurMer
User ID #: 664
Country: United States of America

That's all it says...

I'll just bask in my golden platinum status.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 04:14:25 PM EST
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Hi there, Estran! Nothing extraordinary about it, you belong to a user group that can see them.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2012 at 03:52:52 PM EST
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Collected geography lessons in the SZ.
Uganda will gar nicht Spanien sein
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 04:28:49 AM EST
Yes, in reaction to the moron Spanish prime minister saying
Spanien ist nicht Uganda.


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 04:32:42 AM EST
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[warning : not for the faint-hearted]

Danish rider Chris Sorenson was injured yesterday, but started the race again today, and seems determined to go all the way to Paris on Sunday.

We saw Chris Anker Sorensen really having a good go in the Pyrenees. He was 24th in stage 17 and second in stage 16 but he rode most of yesterday's stage with blood dripping from a wound on his left hand. We asked Saxo Bank's Nick Gates what happened yesterday... did he put his hand in his spokes?

"Yeah," said the directeur sportif, "a newspaper had been thrown out for a rider to put down his jersey for a descent and it went into Chris' wheel. He tried to rip it out and he got his fingers stuck in the spokes. He's not in a good way. He had micro-surgery on two fingers last night at the hospital and they're now patching him up again to see if they can get the green light so he can race. He's still in a lot of pain but he's going to have a crack and see if he can race."

"Basically his small finger was ground down to the bone all the way up the side. They stuck a splint on there and that'll get him through until the end of the Tour and on Monday or Tuesday he'll have to go to a hospital and get it really fixed up. He's a tough guy! The way he got through the stage.

"The accident happened on a really fast part of the race and they couldn't dress the wound properly. There was no option. He had to defend his position on GC and he did that really well. He's held 14th overall so he's at least happy with that."

Any other sportspeople that tough? Round the world solo sailors, perhaps.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 06:19:07 AM EST
For cyclists, there's also Shermer's neck:
Michael Shermer grudgingly gave his name to this malady during the 1983 RAAM on his approach to Harrier, IL, nearly 2,000 miles into the race. His head felt heavy and the back of his neck was increasingly sore. He described it as, "a quick melt down." His head dropped, making it impossible for him to look up. Cradling his chin in the palm of one hand with his elbow on the padding of his aerobars, he supported his head well enough to finish the race. Despite excruciating pain during the event, his neck was back to normal within two days.

[...]

Case #2: In his first RAAM attempt in 2004, Randy Van Zee contracted Shermer's Neck just 700 miles and two days into the race. His finish in 11 days 16 hours is a testament to his determination and ability to block out pain. Van Zee had never suffered from whiplash or related neck injuries, but after watching Larsen's 2003 RAAM video, he had a neck brace created. It was dubbed "the neck wrecker" because the crane-like extension rising from his back to support his head from behind looked like a wrecking truck. With the brace, Van Zee withstood more than nine days of pain. Although the contraption provided some help it also caused difficulties - it was painful to wear and never provided sufficient lift to allow him to see the road completely. Van Zee also had two EMTs and a massage therapist on his team.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 at 10:54:13 AM EST
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