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(About to be) Stormy Monday Open Thread

by dvx Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 11:30:51 AM EST

Let it rain!


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So I guess we have a theme...



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 11:32:21 AM EST
Were i a funky r'n'b musician, i would indeed be thankful my mamma named me T-Bone. (Assuming that his road crew didn't nickname him that.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:32:01 PM EST
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It was a dark and stormy night.

How many know what that alludes to?

by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:22:49 PM EST
I do.


Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:26:51 PM EST
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Any equivalent in French or German?
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:56:19 PM EST
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No idea about German (I hardly ever do).

I don't know about an equivalent contest in France, but if I'm totally honest, I must say that what I had in mind was Peanuts, rather than the contest.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:06:50 PM EST
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So what is considered to be the best opening line to a novel in French

I suppose we all know the English one.

by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:24:57 PM EST
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Well, best as in worst obviously...

"De tous temps" is known as a terrible way to start a dissertation, but maybe a novelist would not even consider it.
"Il était une fois", which is litterally "once upon a time" is considered the ultimate cliché and highly frowned upon.
However, I've always liked starting a story with "Twice upon a time".

I guess "Rose était une chic fille" could be used as a high in laborious starts, but only because in the movie "L'été en pente douce", one of the three main characters, a would be writer, has not managed to go any further after weeks of "writing".

I'd have to ask my mother, a former litterature teacher. There may be something I'm not aware of that would be a nice equivalent.
As for this particular one, it is "C'était par une nuit sombre et orageuse".

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:36:35 PM EST
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Check wkipedia for "itvwas a dark and stormy night"to get the full story and the entire sentence.  This !#**ing Ipad does not lend itself to cut and paste somI cannot provide the link.
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:43:42 PM EST
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I already had -which was how it occurred to me that you might not have meant Snoopy's litterary efforts after all.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:45:37 PM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:00:09 PM EST
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No question about it....dark and stormy night brings to my mind the long drive in the rain to the mansion in Rocky Horror Picture Show.  I bet my old squirt gun is tucked away in a box somewhere, from midnight showings when I was in grad school, when I should have been studying instead of culting it up.
by ElaineinNM on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 08:04:53 PM EST
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Wiki page.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:26:33 PM EST
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Candidate:

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Partie Carrée, par Théophile Gautier.

Une pâle aurore de novembre encore mal éveillée se frottait les yeux derrière une courtine de nuages grisâtres, et déjà le digne hôtelier Geordie se tenait debout sur le seuil de son auberge, les bras aussi croisés que le permettait un abdomen plus que majestueux, qui témoignait on ne peut plus favorablement de la cuisine du Lion rouge.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:50:34 PM EST
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Don't know whether it is "the best" opening line, but the most well know opening line in French literature is probably "Longtemps, je me suis couché de bonne heure." from "Du côté de chez Swann" by Marcel Proust.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:33:52 PM EST
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The best in English is considered to be from A Tale Of Two Cities by Dickens.  Although he has a few good ones apart from that one.
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:43:51 PM EST
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I've also seen Austen's "truth universally acknowledged" quoted (and parodied) all over the place. But my personal favorite's is Bill Bryson's: "I come from Des Moines. Somebody had to."

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:55:25 PM EST
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the literary competition basedontheopeningparagraph where the
French-speaking chickens learned to fire back at the ranchers who only spoke Texan.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:30:16 PM EST
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by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:31:35 PM EST
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I shuld point out, and indeed i am bout to, point out that is, that this sentence is a mistranslation from the original Englisch written by my old friend Thomas Pynchon, who i've never met, during our wished for colledge days 2gether. When he wrote, before he learned to write, the following classic beginning to the novel he never wanted to finish.

It was a stark and dormy night.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:50:20 PM EST
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Did he perhaps mean dorky?
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:55:22 PM EST
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It was a dark and stormy night. My computer had the hiccups, scattering pixels all over the crystal clear Bildschirm i had broughten from amurka when the Euro made buying foreign a not so dark experience, before it froze into that even the clock stops state where even the clock stops. so i thought perhaps i should buy a new one. And there hangs the tail.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 02:56:29 PM EST
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Reuters: Dutch damned by homeowner debt (August 20, 2012)
The Dutch, who have been able to borrow up to 12 times their income to buy homes, are leveraged to the hilt. By some measures the Netherlands has the highest per capita mortgage debt in the European Union.

...

... The problem is also bigger than the economy. Collective Dutch mortgage debt rose from 140 billion euros in 1995 to 640 billion euros ($790 billion) last year - or from 46 percent to 105 percent of GDP.

...

If housing prices fall another 10 percent, the central bank projected last year, 30 percent of all mortgages would no longer be covered by the home value. That would lead to losses at the four Dutch commercial banks, where about one third of lending comes from mortgages and which are already reporting rising mortgage delinquency.

Clearly the Netherlands is not Spain is not Ireland.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:15:05 PM EST
From the link:

The Dutch central bank expects a moderate recovery in 2013 and 2014, assuming the euro zone problems don't worsen.

And the banksters doing everything they can to ensure THAT won't happen because ...

Pink & Purple Unicorns will save Teh DAY!

(ain't they cute?)

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:23:26 PM EST
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It's really hard to design something this ugly.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:09:32 AM EST
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So basically, most people hate work....

BBC News - Scientists dispel 'Miserable Monday' myth

We may say we hate Mondays, but research suggests Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays are equally loathed.

US investigators who looked at a poll of 340,000 people found moods were no worse on Mondays than other working days, bar Friday.

People were happier as they approached the weekend, lending support for the concept of "that Friday feeling".

The report authors told the Journal of Positive Psychology that the concept of miserable Mondays should be ditched.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:19:43 PM EST
TGIF
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:26:30 PM EST
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Mohamed El Erian (PIMCO): Spain's hesitation could cost it dear (20 August, FT.com)
... Spain's reluctance is rational, rather than a reflection of stubborn national pride or a misunderstanding on the part of the government. It is a well-founded hesitation to follow others in becoming a ward of the eurozone. Until the continent's leaders fix these contradictions, the euro crisis will continue to pose a threat to Europe's historic regional integration efforts.

...

I suspect that these two factors [Eu loans are senior to privately held debt, and austerity policies are not balanced with growth enhancing measures] will be at the top of the agenda of Mariano Rajoy, Spain's prime minister, when he travels to Germany. He has likely been encouraged by recent remarks by ECB and German officials which suggest greater recognition among critical European decision making. But translating this into effective changes on the ground will not be easy.

...

European leaders will thus have to work hard to find innovative and imaginative solutions to both these issues. We should all hope that they are successful. If not, Spain's hesitation will be followed by two new twists in Europe's crisis: within a few weeks, a significantly larger economy would join three other eurozone members in becoming a ward of the European state; and Italy, an even bigger economy, would risk slipping to where Spain is today.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:51:01 PM EST
Time to drop the European fixation on Left Wing DFH Pinko-Commie Socialism and apply some Free Market solutions:

  1.  The banks, hedge funds, and investment companies made bad investments

  2.  Let them go bankrupt

(bye-bye)

3.  Once the deadwood is out of the way, people can then get together, use their $%@^#! brains, and start fixing the mess.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:31:16 PM EST
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Spiegel: Interview With Volker Kauder 'Europe is Our Future' (20 August, 2012)
Volker Kauder, 62, is the head of the parliamentary group of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives. In a SPIEGEL interview, he defines his party's red lines in the euro bailout efforts and warns against hasty changes to the constitution in response to the euro crisis.


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 03:53:58 PM EST
Note that he's 62. In fact, to quote: "Europa ist das größte Projekt meiner Generation." (Europe is the greatest project of my generation). The qualifier is probably an unintentional reminder of the problem.
by oliver on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 01:10:08 AM EST
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His generation is the main driver of the Euro crisis.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 01:46:57 AM EST
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The Euro is the source of its own problem.
by oliver on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 03:58:23 AM EST
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Today is the  anniversary of Trotsky's assassination.
by stevesim on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 04:44:53 PM EST


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 05:05:59 PM EST
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Nice pick!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 05:24:43 PM EST
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Bad pun as Trotsky was killed with an ice pick.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 05:31:06 AM EST
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Excellent pun for that very reason.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 05:36:14 AM EST
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Never found murder to be funny personally.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 05:44:27 AM EST
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I agree, but there must be  a statute of limitations. How many years ago would you place it?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:08:10 AM EST
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Ice pick in the head...  200 years.  Maybe more.  Horrible way to go as he lingered for over a day.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:19:30 AM EST
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He also told his bodyguards not to harm his murderer, and told them to get his grandson away from him so as not to traumatise the youth, so extra years should be awarded until event this falls into the realm of comedy.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:22:50 AM EST
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stop you're making me cry...

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:34:05 AM EST
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You should.  Every life is worth celebrating and every death a loss to the universe.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:39:24 AM EST
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for major political figures

Though his grandson might not agree (video)


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:27:35 AM EST
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I watched it yesterday.  The grandson isn't laughing at his grandfather getting an icepick through the skull.
by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:40:33 AM EST
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I'll give you VC on icepickings. But what about the stonings to death depicted in 'Life of Brian'? Is it still comedy when it's still practised?

My guess is that a single generation is enough to separate comedy and tragedy. I can argue with you on that proposal.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 01:42:05 PM EST
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I am not a fan of that movie for some reason.

I just don't see the humour in Trotsky's or other violent deaths.  I remember the first time I saw the photo of him after the attack when I was a child and was horrified by it.  

Black humour is very popular I will admit, but It's not really my cup of tea for that reason.

by stevesim on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 01:54:44 PM EST
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Well somebody is paying attention ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Aug 21st, 2012 at 10:05:30 AM EST
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Twitter / Colvinius: RT @JuliusFlywheel: RT ...
RT @JuliusFlywheel: RT @dianagram: (I can't take credit for this) ... "Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan" anagrams to "My ultimate Ayn Rand porn"


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 06:19:09 PM EST
That's a socket?

Phys.Org Mobile: Power-strip lookalike hacks office networks

Pwnie Express, the company specializing in cyber security products, calls its new device "ingenious." Bloggers hearing about it are paying attention to the fact that it is a power-strip lookalike but with far more ambitious intentions, such as stealth-penetrating a corporate network. Power Pwn is the name of the little device for security testing on corporate networks. It looks like an under the office desk power strip. It is actually a testing platform where security can be put to the test, a self-hacking tool for launching remotely-activated Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Ethernet attacks.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2012 at 10:36:30 PM EST


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