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by afew Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 11:22:27 AM EST

What it says on the label


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And it works right out of the box.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 11:22:53 AM EST


"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 12:01:42 PM EST
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Yes, not only works right out of the box,
But is Unplug and Play.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 05:28:23 AM EST
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Some collectors pay more for 'mint-in-box'.

"Life's like that: once you open it, the value goes way down."

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 03:44:07 PM EST
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invited to a soiree with a multimedia evening, featuring mike figgis on the visuals and rosey chan on piano.

both very fine musicians. this should be interesting, methinks.

have a nice weekend ETers!

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 02:13:45 PM EST
We watched Spielberg's 'Close Encounters' on blu-ray. Haven't seen it since it came out. It still works.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 03:45:57 PM EST
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Extended or "As-Released?"

Saw the Extended Cut four/five years ago and thought it was much better than the one I saw in the theater.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:09:59 PM EST
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I thought it was the extended cut - have to check tomorrow.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:39:14 PM EST
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While we're waiting ...

Some hard core head bashing Finnish Rock-n-Roll



Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 08:43:48 PM EST
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Neil Armstrong has died

Neil A. Armstrong (1930 - 2012) » Archive » Statement from the Family of Neil Armstrong

Saturday, August 25, 2012

"We are heartbroken to share the news that Neil Armstrong has passed away following complications resulting from cardiovascular procedures.

"Neil was our loving husband, father, grandfather, brother and friend.

"Neil Armstrong was also a reluctant American hero who always believed he was just doing his job. He served his Nation proudly, as a navy fighter pilot, test pilot, and astronaut. He also found success back home in his native Ohio in business and academia, and became a community leader in Cincinnati.

"He remained an advocate of aviation and exploration throughout his life and never lost his boyhood wonder of these pursuits.

"As much as Neil cherished his privacy, he always appreciated the expressions of good will from people around the world and from all walks of life.

"While we mourn the loss of a very good man, we also celebrate his remarkable life and hope that it serves as an example to young people around the world to work hard to make their dreams come true, to be willing to explore and push the limits, and to selflessly serve a cause greater than themselves.

"For those who may ask what they can do to honor Neil, we have a simple request. Honor his example of service, accomplishment and modesty, and the next time you walk outside on a clear night and see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a wink."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 03:51:08 PM EST
http://members.shaw.ca/rlongpre01/moon.html

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 03:54:55 PM EST
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Fitting YouTube video with the score from The Right Stuff and photos of the real Glenn:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:05:26 PM EST
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http://yfrog.com/kl6gfsp

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:09:34 PM EST
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NASA - Neil Armstrong: 1930-2012
Apollo 11 command module pilot Michael Collins said simply, "He was the best, and I will miss him terribly."

Armstrong's words "That is one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind," spoken on July 20, 1969, as he became the first person ever to step onto another planetary body, instantly became a part of history.

Those few words from the Sea of Tranquillity were the climactic fulfillment of the efforts and hopes of millions of people and the expenditure of billions of dollars. A plaque on one of the lander's legs that concluded "We came in peace for all mankind," further emphasized that Armstrong and fellow astronaut Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin were there as representatives of all humans.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:23:52 PM EST
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http://xkcd.com/893/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:31:24 PM EST
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Oh crikey, that' depressing. Back in 69 we imagined we were walking into the future of the film 2001, instead we retreated

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 03:23:01 AM EST
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My comment on why.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 04:22:39 AM EST
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Well I spent part of last night being told that space exploration was a question between good and evil, and while there wasn't enough money for hospitals, sending up rockets was on the side of evil (along with Rockets being the cause of all the environmental damage, and if god had wanted us to go into space he would have built stairs)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 08:05:28 AM EST
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That's how civilizations die.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:38:48 AM EST
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With the following mouseover text:
The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision.


If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:43:13 AM EST
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The discussion of manned spaceflight always leaves me somewhat conflicted.

On one hand, I want to yell at the idiots who claim that the most powerful industrial civilization in the history of humanity "cannot afford" to do something which was trivially cheap forty years ago and has not become appreciably more expensive since.

On the other hand, I want to yell at the manned spaceflight fanboys, because manned spaceflight does not make any damned sense. There is literally nothing a manned mission can do that a remote-controlled robot cannot do much cheaper and almost as well. And if you want that to change, you need to develop a reliable method of sustaining an extraterrestrial colony without having to pay the overhead on regularly lifting edible food, potable water and breathable air out of the Earth's gravity well on the back of a rocket.

Because that cost actually is prohibitive. In real, physical terms, not just in some central bank's spreadsheet.

And for the foreseeable future, the required research for that can be better done planetside.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:16:16 AM EST
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Pressing Issues: Pink Floyd's "Soundtrack" to First Moon Walk
I noted in the previous post--on William Safire's speech for Nixon in case the moon landing ended in deaths--that all kinds of wonderful and strange esoterica will be revisited in the days ahead. Here's another: It seems that Pink Floyd was in a BBC studio in London "jamming" live to the first moon walk. This "soundtrack" was missing for years, then bootlegged, before finally ending up, where else, on YouTube. Here it is:


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 05:31:36 PM EST
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A hero for all the planet, I imagine his name will be remembered for all time.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 03:28:07 AM EST
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he's a man whos statue deserves being on the fourth plinth

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 07:38:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
http://www.b3ta.com/board/10834676

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 08:18:01 AM EST
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Anyone heard of her before? I just saw the music video below and was floored:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 04:56:30 PM EST
in case you are looking for your remote control.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 07:19:59 PM EST
Ours threw one at the cat from on top of an end table one time.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 07:23:59 PM EST
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I miss our ferrets.  Mostly Fenester Ferret stole socks, but Elke would sneak out from under the sofa and steal guest's purses....drag them quietly away.   Fenester also like to dig through the coat pockets of guests and hide their gloves under the bed.  
by ElaineinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 07:55:41 PM EST
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Our old one enjoyed stealing socks.  The upside to it was that collecting laundry was a bit easier each week.

The other one loved shoes.  He could wreck the toe on a shoe faster than Chris Christie can clear out a Shoneys.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 08:09:03 PM EST
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Looks like we're going to get perhaps more rain this week than asdf or ATinNM get in a typical year.

Given how much we've had in the last few months, I'm half-expecting FSU's opening game of the season to be played in scuba gear.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 07:23:24 PM EST
You're pretty much under the gun.  Saw on the NHC site areas of Florida could get 20 inches (50.8 centimeters.)  

Isaac is already off the north coast of Cuba and at the moment it looks like the Keys are going to get a direct smack with the eye wall passing directly over the.  Storm surge could be as high as 7' (2 meters) which would wash completely across most of the Keys.  Idiots didn't even start evacuating until late this morning.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 09:17:48 PM EST
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The Keys will be fine.  Aside from a handful of stubborn people, they're pretty good at evacuating, and the storm isn't going to be all that strong when it arrives there.

What's worrying about this one is that, once it clears the Keys, it's got nothing but water ahead of it until landfall (barring a turn towards the NE, which is possible no matter what the NHC folks say).

I don't think it's favorable for producing a Katrina-type storm, because I think the end of La Nina has meant a lot of the heat getting scraped up by thunderstorms all summer.  But nevertheless it's warm enough to produce a serious storm.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 07:56:13 AM EST
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NHC is saying there is a greater than usual uncertainty due to a large spread of the forecast models:

with each path depending on how Isaac interacts with a sub-tropical ridge north of the Gulf.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:31:57 AM EST
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I fully expect it to make landfall in Sarasota, given their record.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 08:11:31 PM EST
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WeatherUnderground saying you're looking at a Cat 2 and " a major hurricane (category 3+) is not out of the question."

Got your plywood up yet?

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 09:22:34 PM EST
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I think (knocking on wood) we'll be alright.  The track has moved back to the west.  Landfall should be roughly Mobile, which would put us far enough away that a Cat 5, let alone a Cat 2, probably wouldn't be damaging.

We tend to forget just how long the Florida Panhandle is.  Doesn't look far on a map, but it's three hours to Pensacola by car and another hour or so to Mobile.  Good bit of space to have there.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 07:40:09 AM EST
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The republican convention has been delayed because of it.

God hates fags republicans

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 01:27:15 PM EST
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Meanwhile, twin typhoons in the Pacific are battering Taiwan, Okinawa, and probably soon Shanghai.
by das monde on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 10:23:59 PM EST
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How has typhoon season been?  Been so busy this year I haven't followed the news.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sat Aug 25th, 2012 at 11:13:03 PM EST
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Japan had one big typhoon mid June.

Hong Kong was famously hit. Shanghai already suffered as well.

Other than that, I can only copy Wikipedia.

by das monde on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 01:10:10 AM EST
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A week out of reach of the internet. I'll do some "what I did on my holidays" diaries later, I'm still de-compressing and sorting myself out and catching up.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 03:31:33 AM EST
Goody. I'll add some photos to your diary when you post it. Some great pics of you.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 07:00:10 AM EST
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India Pale Ale

I draw this item to Helen's attention.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 04:07:31 AM EST
Ha, thank you, that's interesting.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 06:35:42 AM EST
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Malmgård Blond Ale

This is made near us. According to a couple of ale fanciers of my acquaintance, it's pretty good.

Strangely, a film producer friend rang about 20 mins ago to ask if I'd mind being shot by a hit man in a cottage near Malmgård. No lines, no pay - but I said yes. I once dubbed the hit man's voice, so I guess it's payback time.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 07:12:37 AM EST
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Well, you can always bring some over next time you visit your sister :-))

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:53:42 AM EST
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That might happen this Autumn...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 12:45:24 PM EST
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This one is from April, but I had not read it before:

I was a teenage Gramlich - News Features

I can't say I ever intended from a young age to spend my 18th year mastering Washington Consensus-era monetary policy to recite in stuttering, rote cliché before a panel of mildly curious economic policymakers who filled out the payroll at Alan Greenspan's Randian fiefdom.

...

And somehow, over a few months, I became fluent in the tongue of historically resolved, tightly synthesized neoclassical bullshit.



A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 05:17:21 AM EST
I was a teenage Gramlich - News Features

In the real-life Fed, Gramlich had brought some of his subprime concerns to Alan Greenspan around 2000. He urged the chairman to mobilize the Fed's regulatory apparatus to use, according to a 2007 Wall Street Journal article, "its discretionary authority to send examiners into the offices of consumer-finance lenders that were units of Fed-regulated bank holding companies." This is something he said to Alan Greenspan, a guy who doesn't even think fraud should be illegal, as former Commodity Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born -- a Clinton-era derivatives regulator whom Greenspan silenced -- remembers him saying over a lunch date. So it was hardly a shock when Greenspan dismissed Gramlich's concerns. And Gramlich, not willing to push further against Greenspan's final word, decided not to bring his recommendations to the Fed staff.

This revelation came out shortly before Gramlich's death from leukemia in the summer of 2007, just as the subprime crisis was beginning to destroy the entire global economy. But three years later, when Greenspan was testifying before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the old man was polite enough to, let's say, "commemorate" Gramlich's 2000 warnings. He recommended that the panel examine the causes of the financial crisis that Gramlich had "chosen not to bring" to the Fed's board, according to a New York Times report on the hearing titled "Greenspan Criticized for Characterization of Colleague." There are plenty of rival episodes to choose from, but it's hard to find a more illuminating example of Alan Greenspan's enduring pettiness than this. Long after the fact, he tried to depict himself as the reasonable adult by recommending the Fed look into Gramlich's regulatory ideas, while also slyly insinuating that his dead colleague was the bad actor in this drama because he never brought those recommendations to the Fed staff.

We neophyte high schoolers could never hope to aspire to this level of Machiavellian chicanery -- it's no doubt covered in advanced seminars in macroeconomic policy, or perhaps in the Objectivist texts that Greenspan has lovingly studied throughout his life. On another level, though, Greenspan's harried blaming-the-dead-guy line of rhetorical defense underlined just how close the worlds of high school and macroeconomic policymaking are, at least in behavioral terms. The only difference in this case would be that a high-school-age scofflaw would be more likely to invent a dead relative to blow off a homework assignment than to attribute a major policy oversight to a dead colleague.



It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 06:52:00 AM EST
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Love that sig line, too.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 06:59:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
thanks!

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 1st, 2012 at 04:49:13 PM EST
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Bet you can't identify who's behind Wilson Pickett here.

Clue #1: The picker on the left lived in Woodstock same time as me.
Clue #2: The picker on the right has his guitar on backwards.
Clue #3: Stuff was so damn legendary, and I got to hear them so damn live so damn often.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:04:56 AM EST
And i used to hear this shit at the Joyous Lake in Woodstock

For the pickers here, notice (especially after 4:00) that you can often watch the fretboard.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:17:32 AM EST
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Well Ok, it is a Sunday to show your age, groovily



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:20:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Of course, there are other views.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:23:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Great Adapt-a-Cover™
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:38:19 AM EST
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I'm talking about a revolution.
We have to clean our brains.

and czech out the audience.

That was then, this is now.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 02:46:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

(Hope it makes it past your filter.)

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 03:54:26 PM EST
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Stuff didn't always play around town, sometimes they crossed the Great Water to play in Yurp at Montreaux

yes, Herr Gadd was, is, and always shall be awesome

(One can infer that even though ET is not the most music friendly site in all creation, i'm having fun today.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:41:16 AM EST
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On the right shore's hell looks like Jimi Hendrix. In which case the guitar is the "right" way on, he was left-handed.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:24:26 AM EST
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i have the little joke gemade. he became a left-winger so he could point that guitar at his idol, who lived down the road, and made some Stuff.

Starting with the house band for Arethra...

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 10:44:19 AM EST
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Hoopefully you've all left your churches behind, but it's Sunday, so let's go to Church!



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:10:24 AM EST
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Rewarded for my efforts on this holy moment, something i've never heard before



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:27:44 AM EST
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ADORE The Roches. Got to hear them live, twice.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 02:27:18 PM EST
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Got to hear them live i don't know how many times, didn't get to marry either Maggie or Terry. As you know, still like Hammond Song very much, if not the entire repertoire , so i just remained in love.


"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 03:03:37 PM EST
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Before I went away I'd spent a lot of time recording best of CDs, but almost the day before I bought some old 50s blues and rock and roll CDs and boy were they a revelation.

I loved 'em. Sure there was a lot of naivety and some very iffy playing at times, but man it was like someone opened a door and let the air in.

I think I shall be playing those a lot in the coming months

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:49:33 AM EST
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I've just run Spybot and eliminated a couple of nasties that must have slipped in recently. Now my 'puter, which was running dog slow, is zipping along nicely.

Keep yer gutters clean, kids

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:44:23 AM EST
Bloomberg: Weidmann Says ECB Purchases Could Become `Addictive Like A Drug' (26 August, 2012)
"We shouldn't underestimate the danger that central bank financing can become addictive like a drug," Weidmann said in an interview with Der Spiegel. "Such policy is too close to state financing via the money press for me."

...

"In democracies, parliaments rather than central banks should decide on such an encompassing mutualization of risks," Spiegel cited Weidmann as saying in an e-mailed summary of the interview today. The plans are becoming "concerted actions by the state rescue mechanisms and the central bank. That causes a link between fiscal and monetary policy."

Weidmann said that while he doesn't see an immediate danger of inflation, central bankers risk losing their focus on their primary objective if they become political problem solvers, according to the Hamburg-based magazine.



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 12:02:19 PM EST
You Read It Here Years Ago department

Telegraph: Peak cheap oil is an incontrovertible fact

So we face a world where Brent crude trades at over $100 even in recession. Fears of an Israeli strike on Iran may have spiked the price a bit, though Intrade's contract for an attack is well below levels earlier this year.

Iranian sanctions may have cut supply by more than the extra 900,000 bpd pumped by Saudi Arabia. Japan's increased reliance on oil since switching off most of its nuclear reactors has played its part.
Yet the deeper force at work is the relentless fall in output from the North Sea and the Gulf of Mexico, endless disappointment in Russia because of Kremlin pricing policies, and the escalating cost of extraction from deep sea fields.

Nothing has really changed since the IEA warned four years ago that the world must invest $20 trillion in energy projects over the next 25 years to feed the industrial revolutions of Asia and head off an almighty crunch. The urgency has merely been disguised by the Long Slump.
We learned in the 2006-2008 blow-off that China is now the key driver of global oil prices, with consumption rising each year by 0.5m bpd -- now a total 9.2m bpd in a world market of 90m bpd. Demand is broadly flat in Europe and America.

So what will happen when China latest spending blitz gains traction? The regions have unveiled a colossal new spree on airports, roads, aeronautics, and industrial parks: a purported $240bn each for Tianjin and Chongqing, $160bn for Guangdong, $130bn for Changsha, and so forth. Sleepy Guizhou has trumped them all with $470bn. Your mind goes numb.



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 01:56:30 PM EST
See also (posted here recently):



Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Aug 26th, 2012 at 02:11:37 PM EST
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