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by afew Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 11:55:44 AM EST

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Urban Dictionary: swag
A stupid saying that's overused. People 90 per cent are dumb teenagers, 10 per cent are little ass kids trying to be cool use it for EVERYTHING and also as their facebook name thinking that shit's cute: 'I just opened a cabinet, SWAG.' 'I just fell down, lol, SWAG.' 'SWAGNIFICENT' '(your name) idontgiveafuq gotsswagg' 'lives in swagtown' 'works at swagville' 'That show was so SWAG.' 'I just finished brushing my teeth, SWAG.' 'Hey guys, just woke up, SWAG.' 'Lol, I got kicked out of class, SWAG.' 'I cursed the teacher out, SWAG.' 'Tumbling on tumblr in class, SWAG.' '(your name) the swag god' 'texting in class, SWAG' ... 'SWAG.' You don't have no motherfucking swag.

You: 'I got swag.'
Me: 'That's because you're a fucking retard trying to be like the rest of the try hards thinking their dumb ass have swag.'

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 12:00:03 PM EST
Daily Kos: J.K. Rowling: the flip-side of Romney on taxes
Unlike the Republican nominee for President, author J.K. Rowling is a millionaire who doesn't spend all her time and energy trying to avoid paying taxes. When asked why she continues to live in Great Britain when she could move to a country with a lower tax rate, the author of the Harry Potter series responded that she was "indebted" to the British welfare state because when her life "hit rock bottom...that safety net was there to break the fall." She also claims it would have been "contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sign of a seven-figure royalty cheque." She went on to say, "This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism."
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 12:06:07 PM EST
Yeah, she timed it well. Today she'd have been forced to work to get the benefits and we wouldn't have Harry Potter.

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by Number 6 on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 01:57:34 PM EST
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plus a large amount of art and popular music

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 03:08:23 PM EST
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don't forget the new wave of entrepreneurial buskers suggested by the tories!

aka 'go beg, a guitar might help'

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 04:13:43 PM EST
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Tropical Depression Tropical Storm Hurricane Tropical Storm Hurricane Nadine is still wandering around the mid-Atlantic.  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 12:26:05 PM EST
Protests in Spain: live streaming.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:26:37 PM EST


I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:29:19 PM EST
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People chanting they call it democracy, but it isn't.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:30:43 PM EST
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That was from Terra, this is from El Pais. (They appear to have more camera angles).

This is what the police barricades look like:



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:35:27 PM EST
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And this one form the 15M movement directly.

The banner reads 'odious debt: referendum already'.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:41:47 PM EST
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This from La Sexta:

They are streaming the demonstration alongside their regular programming (in this case, the evening news).

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:46:58 PM EST
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When Reuters live streams protests against your government in front of your parliament.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:51:44 PM EST
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When you try this

Publico.es: EL #29S EN DIRECTO: Nueva manifestación frente al Congreso

La nueva manifestación en Neptuno del movimiento 'Rodea el Congreso' no tendrá tanta cobertura televisiva como las anteriores porque las autoridades del PP están obligando a retirar unidades móviles y transportables a los equipos de TV, que tampoco pueden instalar sus andamios
the PP authorities are forcing TV mobile units to withdraw and, and also preventing the TV teams form setting up scaffolds

and yet you fail.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 02:54:46 PM EST
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are they blocking foreign media coverage too?

what about all the cell phones and youtube?

good luck spanish people!

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 04:16:31 PM EST
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The world is watching.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 04:42:56 PM EST
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It;s being streamed on RTVE (Spain's National Radio and Television). How's that for a successful government media blackout?

Basically, the police can try to get the mobile units out, but there are many stations with their cameras set up on neighbouring buildings.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 04:51:33 PM EST
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Total lack of interest from the BBC news site.

Usual nonsense instead.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 05:38:50 PM EST
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Public TV Tagesschau says "tens of thousands" in Madrid and in Lisbon, but at least it's the first item on their site.
by Katrin on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 05:50:04 PM EST
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nothing on italian tv either, normally they show thi stuff, but not tonight.
peaceful protests don't up ratings...

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 08:27:01 PM EST
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Absent from French MSM.

Plenty of dramatic visuals from the floods in Andalusia, thank you.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 03:03:51 AM EST
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People were very excited about France24:



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 05:52:20 AM EST
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This morning: Une nouvelle manifestation anti-austérité dégénère à Madrid (30/09/2012)
Des heurts ont éclaté, samedi soir, entre des groupes de manifestants anti-austérité et la police à proximité du Parlement espagnol. Des milliers de personnes s'étaient réunies à Madrid dans la soirée pour exiger la démission du gouvernement.
(No more information about the 'descent into violence', but a video carrying about the same information as the text).

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 05:55:31 AM EST
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Ah. That's one I don't look at... I'm wrong (for once).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 06:16:10 AM EST
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But does that count as 'national TV' that reaches the general public?

I think it's significant that the 'international business set' is kept up to date (see Reuters, for instance) but the Plebs don't get the information.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 07:14:25 AM EST
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Migeru:
does that count as 'national TV' that reaches the general public?

No.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 04:40:01 PM EST
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When I was in Vietnam, the strikes in foreign companies were always reported in the state-written, english language press. The strikes in state companies weren't... And I don't know about strikes in foreign companies being reported in the vietnamese-language newspapers...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2012 at 08:20:09 AM EST
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Dammit, people, I want to believe this will make a difference!

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 06:05:25 AM EST
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What do you think our countries are ? Democracies ?

They're bleeding us all dry and they think we're mugs. They will continue to do so until forced to stop

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 06:24:49 AM EST
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What do you think our countries are ? Democracies?

Why, no, Lo llaman democracia y no lo es.

But still...

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 07:35:32 AM EST
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Helen Helen Helen ... careful, you're starting to sound like  ... ME!!  This is a no-win situation. If the Spanish govt. backs down the crowds will get the notion that this strategy works and they'll be back in greater numbers, and if the Spanish govt. doesn't back down, some clear thinking Spaniard will say, "Now what? Slowly starve to death? Maybe Syria has the right idea. If we're going to die anyway, go out swinging. Maybe we'll take out a few of the bad guys with us and it will leave a better world for the children."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 10:03:50 AM EST
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At least the spanish are protesting, which carries with it the possibility of change.

Her, apathy and passivity reign. We've been taught that protest within the system is futile and, as yet, there is no appetite for effective protest outside of it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 11:20:07 AM EST
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Neoliberalism's greatest success is the thorough destruction of a sense of unity and solidarity. The working class has never before been so split.  
by Katrin on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 12:55:12 PM EST
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I suppose such destruction happens when the working class is out of work. Smart thinking by the deciderers.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 03:08:52 PM EST
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It may not be today, but it will. The mass is building.
by Nomad on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 03:18:30 PM EST
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When I read a comment like this, I always want to say "from your mouth to god's ears" but it doesn't feel right coming from an atheist.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 03:38:54 PM EST
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is 25 years old today



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 06:03:43 PM EST
diary about spain and the basque country.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/29/1123687/-Elections-in-the-Basque-Country

should be on ET! ;)

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 29th, 2012 at 08:29:24 PM EST


I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 07:15:24 AM EST
The outfit I consult with has come up with a new way to (not) provide health insurance: Make the employee contribution rate so high that you're better off buying it as an individual. The "no benefits" job has moved from the coffee shop and gardening fields into the professional world...
by asdf on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 08:45:25 AM EST
ouch
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 10:09:21 AM EST
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Independent - Laurie Penny - Why do we care about Megan Stammers from Eastbourne but not "Suzie" from Rochdale?

We live in a society that is not terribly good at protecting young women. The same tabloid newspapers that spent this week making a show of searching the Continent for Megan Stammers routinely drool over the bodies of actors and singers barely out of training bras or send paparazzi to hound young women like Charlotte Church until they are forced to seek legal help. Magazines and billboards are plastered with nubile prepubescent-looking models while real prepubescents are turned away at police stations for reporting rape. There's only one consistent message: young girls are not deemed to have any agency over their own bodies, or their own lives.
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The public was first made aware of child sex trafficking in Rochdale under headlines that screeched about "Asian sex gangs" and Islamic pederasty, but the stand-out fact here is that the authorities knew about these girls' plight and did nothing. Systematic rape of children was ignored, not "in the interests of racial harmony", as outlets like The Daily Telegraph continue to claim, but because the police and social services didn't think the girls in question were worth protecting. Police were ignoring this abuse because the victims were poor, because some of them were care-leavers, because they were assumed to be "wild" and out of control. Because they were not the sort of girls that the authorities usually care about, unless they're out causing trouble. The axis of prejudice here is not race, but class.
[....]
So we see young Megan from Eastbourne, naively making off with her schoolteacher, and "Suzie" from Rochdale, raped repeatedly for months by a brutal procession of strangers, as somehow equivalent - one is worth bothering about, and one was not.


keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 01:48:19 PM EST
Independent - Owen Jones - Whatever happened to the Labour Party?

What is Labour for? If you could pay a visit back to 1899, a railway signalman from Doncaster called Thomas R Steels would certainly have been able to answer. Exasperated at the lack of a political voice for working people while the wealthy had the Tories and Liberals to stand their corner, he drafted a resolution for his local union branch. It called on the Trade Union Congress to assemble a conference with the support "of all the cooperative, socialistic, trade union and other working-class organisations" to look at how it could win "a better representation of the interests of labour in the House of Commons".

 It was a controversial idea. The first socialist MP, Keir Hardie, had only been elected a few years ago; as he entered Parliament for the first time, a policeman eyed his working-class clothes and asked him if he was working on the roof. "No, on the floor," he answered. Many on the left felt the best bet for working-class people was to piggyback on the Liberals, forcing them to introduce social reforms. But the TUC approved Steels' motion - and a few years later, the Labour Party was born.

As Labour delegates gather in Manchester, they might struggle to see the relevance of Steels. Britain has changed beyond recognition: peering out of their hotel windows, they can see that many of the industrial warehouses of Steels' time are now luxury penthouses. But while the people Labour exists to represent today work in shops, call centres and offices rather than factories, mines and docks, they still need a voice. By the end of this government - the most naked government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich since Steels was alive - they are projected to be poorer than at the turn of the 21st-century. If Labour cannot champion their interests now, of all times, it may as well sing " The Red Flag" for the last time, and go home.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 01:55:05 PM EST
Cut all the dead skin off after swimming on cobblestones when the front wheel lost against some train tracks. Knees and muscles hurting like crazy, BUT me glad nothing's broken.

Thankful my geezer body is decently trained, i don't know how i survive this otherwise.

Ibuprofen und La Chaigne cognac, that's the way. Me not dancing too well tonight.

Worse moment: me sprawled on the cobblestones and the only car passes. What was he thinking? I didn't look alive. Second worst moment: Watching the cobblestones arrive.

Hurts a lot tonight. But me truly thankful nothing's broken, can't say the stones were soft. Hurt more to pick the stones out.

Shit, it was such a good long industrial ride, but right at the U-boat bunker...

I love it when all the Bremers go to nature on Sundays, so i go to the industrial harbors to ride alone. the solo driver should have stopped to see if i was still alive, after all, i wasn't moving.

But i did have the just past full moon shining in my eyes as i watched Terrence Malick's Tree of Life.

ouch. (still, me a thankful boy.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Sep 30th, 2012 at 05:57:45 PM EST
Be careful !! I hope you were wearing a helmet

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Oct 1st, 2012 at 02:30:36 AM EST
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owww fuck.
Cobblestones and train tracks, not a good combination. Heal well.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Oct 1st, 2012 at 03:33:52 AM EST
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