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by In Wales Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:04:58 AM EST

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:05:22 AM EST
The powers that be have just realized that a system that costs $X in the U.S. and costs €X in Europe, is more expensive in Europe. Oops, broken costing model.
by asdf on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:23:35 AM EST
Don't try to land on Mars till you've sorted out imperial from metric

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:58:57 AM EST
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Imperial: of or relating to an empire

Metric:  any type of measurement used to gauge some quantifiable component of a company's performance, such as return on investment (ROI)

There.  Sorted.


Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:20:34 PM EST
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It never seems to cost CHF X in Switzerland.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 01:03:11 PM EST
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Measuring.  

What is it and how does that work?  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:18:38 PM EST
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The right question is fucking measurements, how do they work?

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:31:00 PM EST
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Greetings yourself. :-)

Spent the early morning (as in 3-4 a.m. here in CA) being appalled by the UK cabinet changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never been to the UK, etc. But it was the country that was supposed to have made so much progress and where you didn't have to worry as much if something happened and you got sick or lost your job like you do here, and this government is like a bunch of bullies so hungry for power and control over others' lives that it will target them over and over again in hopes of destroying those lives just to show they can do it.

>:(

by lychee on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:38:21 AM EST
I think it was France and Germany that had made those advances. The UK has always been pretty shaky on their commitment to socialism...
by asdf on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:46:46 AM EST
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He shuffled a pack of cards and dealt out a string of jokers.

Mind you, it wasn't as if he had many options. The only thing that might have made a difference was sacking Osborne and replacing him with Cable, but that was never gonna happen in a zillion years


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 11:58:00 AM EST
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How does Cameron's reshuffle change the composition of the cabinet? | News | guardian.co.uk
How will the new appointments change the group's sociopolitical makeup?

Charts and all sorts of goodies on the decomposition of Cameron's government.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:20:38 PM EST
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Well the new health secretary (who managed to somehow get promoted from making a complete screw up of Murdoch etc.) is a co oathor of a book that says the NHS is the biggest disaster of the last 60 years and should be killed off (plus voted for abortion time limits to be reduced to 12 weeks), The new Justice secretary doesn't appear to meet the Legal requirements for part of the role, The new equalities minister has voted against a huge raft of equalities legislation

It's camerons usual Level of competence

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:31:15 PM EST
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Yea, but remember, Blair appointed Ruth Kelly as minister for equality. So, it's not like the tories have got the monopoly on kicking gay people out of sheer malevolence

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:38:23 PM EST
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Oh and theres a Climate sceptic who's been praised by Lord Lawson for his Thoughtfulness into Environment

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:54:47 PM EST
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Fleet Street Fox column: Jeremy Hunt and David Laws back in Cabinet shows you can't trust politicians - Fleet Street Fox - Mirror Online

So a man who charged the taxpayer for Mandarin lessons the same year he married a Chinese wife, whose job was to oversee the shambolic security preparations for the Olympics, who blamed the Hillsborough disaster on hooliganism, and who had a non-partisan role overseeing the takeover of a broadcaster by a media company with whose owners he was surprisingly chummy, with whose lobbyist he played tennis, and with which the multi-million pound he still owns shares in did business, who was hauled before an inquiry and called a liar, doesn't get sacked.

He gets promoted to a more important job looking after an organisation which saves lives. Never mind that he's as ham-fisted as a clown juggling greased pigs, never mind that he ignores medical and scientific fact to support homeopathy and vote against the abortion time limit; no, the best person to be placed in charge of your stupid lives is the man who has nine of his own.

By my reckoning Jeremy Hunt's been through eight already, so hopefully he won't be in charge of the NHS for too long.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 01:18:23 PM EST
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Is the Mirror generally more Tory, centrist, Labour, Green? If it's on the right, having them so annoyed at the appointment doesn't really bode well for the gov't.

I could be wrong--I'm still not familiar with about 80% of the way the UK works. But it seems like Fox News pointing out the lies in Ryan's speech--something that doesn't necessarily indicate lack of support but is something to keep an eye on.

by lychee on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 01:48:58 PM EST
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The Mirror is the Centre Left Tabloid, so probably one of the most anti-Tory papers

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:02:32 PM EST
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Okay, then not so surprising.
by lychee on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:03:58 PM EST
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BTW, I'm not trying to present myself as someone able to predict anything, or who knows how to fix this, or what have you. I'm just kind of shocked and my way of processing it is to start investigating every thought that pops into my head.
by lychee on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 02:19:38 PM EST
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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:40:03 PM EST
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Why was Osborne booed by 80,000 people ?

Cos that's all they could fit into the stadium

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:51:58 PM EST
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Theresa May got thre same treatment tonight, and Cameron Last night. Gordon Brown though got a huge cheer

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 05:25:19 PM EST
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The American conservative - Mike Lofgren -The Revolt of the Rich

There have been numerous books about globalization and how it would eliminate borders. But I am unaware of a well-developed theory from that time about how the super-rich and the corporations they run would secede from the nation state.
[....]
Our plutocracy now lives like the British in colonial India: in the place and ruling it, but not of it. If one can afford private security, public safety is of no concern; if one owns a Gulfstream jet, crumbling bridges cause less apprehension--and viable public transportation doesn't even show up on the radar screen. With private doctors on call and a chartered plane to get to the Mayo Clinic, why worry about Medicare?

Being in the country but not of it is what gives the contemporary American super-rich their quality of being abstracted and clueless.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:03:44 PM EST
It is slightly more complicated than that, because the rich do have some contact with the rest of the world.

An example is the ski resort of Vail, Colorado. Vail is located in a valley that does not have room for an airport, so the "Vail Airport" is actually about 50 km away in Eagle. So when you and your billionaire friends fly your Gulfstream into Vail, you have to get from the airport to your vacation property on the slopes. That means you have to drive on the same road as the proletariat and look at the same roadside attractions.

As a result of this, the towns, roads, economy, and landscape in general between Eagle and Vail is completely inconsistent with the surrounding area, which is generally not very high on the socio-economic scale.

Downtown Eagle:

Downtown Rifle:

by asdf on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:46:12 PM EST
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oh the humanity !! Are there no helicopters ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 01:04:35 PM EST
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The Jackson Hole airport (which is very visible from the highway) made me laugh pretty hard. In a bleak sort of way...

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 03:41:20 PM EST
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Heck of a lot of planes on that airport, to judge from Goggle Earth.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:18:11 PM EST
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It's a utterly ludicrous playground for the rich.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 07:02:06 PM EST
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To be fair, I'm guessing -- I've never gone skiing -- Rifle isn't in primo ski country judging by proximity to Vail and Aspen.  Looks like it's closer to Grand Junction.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 08:29:15 AM EST
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Correct, Rifle is further west on Interstate 70, past the ski areas. The economic prosperity of the ski areas and the surrounding towns is in strong contrast to the other towns. Rifle is actually not too bad; it had the huge oil shale boom in the late 1970s and was vastly improved during that decade. But it does not have the perfectly manicured grass and brand new sidewalks and fancy visitor center that you find in Eagle.

Vail itself is completely over the top artificiality. Aspen is worse, although at least there was a small town there before the skiing boom...

by asdf on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 09:28:35 AM EST
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to be up and working at last!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:08:30 PM EST
Yay!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:19:41 PM EST
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Amazing sculptures - was difficult which to choose to display here:Vincent Sand Gogh: Artist creates sculptures on beach every day for three months - as tide keeps washing them away | Mail Online

With intricate designs featuring landscapes, temples and even a giant cathedral, you'd think these masterpieces were on display in an art gallery.

But the incredible pieces are all made out of sand and were created on a beach by a master sculptor who painstakingly builds 12ft-high works of art.

Unfortunately for Joo Heng Tan, his detailed designs - some of which require 18 tonnes of sand - only last for hours or days before they are washed away.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:23:11 PM EST
Paul McCartney to receive Légion d'honneur from Francois Hollande - Telegraph

In the ceremony scheduled for Sept. 8, McCartney will be made an officer of the Légion d'honneur, France's highest public distinction which has been awarded to the likes of actor Clint Eastwood and singer Liza Minnelli.

No one at McCartney's office was available for comment.

Created by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1802, and symbolised by a red lapel thread, the Légion d'honneur has three grades, Chevalier, Officer and Commander.

The honour carries social status but no money, and recipients have to buy their own medal from a licensed jeweller, with prices ranging from 169 euros to 700 euros for the highest rank.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:25:20 PM EST
I also see the Problem, that feeding Pilgrims, visitors and also the poor for has been an act of Karma and Bhakthi Yoga. I fear that McDonalds will change that?

McDonald's facing Hindu protests over restaurants near holy sites - Telegraph

In a nod to religious and dietary sensitivities, the restaurants will be vegetarian. But the fast food giants' chosen locations are proving controversial regardless.

The first site, Katra in Jammu and Kashmir, is home to Shri Mata Vaishno Devi, one of Hinduism's four holiest shrines and an unlikely haven for the chain that slaughters millions of cows, which are sacred to Indians, every year for its burgers, quarter-pounders and Big Macs.

The second vegetarian restaurant is planned for Amritsar, home of the Golden Temple, the centre of the Sikh religion in Punjab. Both form part of the fast food giant's aim to double its size in one of the world's fastest growing economies.

Although Sikhs are not forbidden from eating meat, their temples serve only free vegetarian food to pilgrims and visitors.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:30:54 PM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 12:53:01 PM EST
Anonymous claims hack caught FBI spying on millions of Apple customers | The Raw Story

Hackers with the amorphous protest movement "Anonymous" and "AntiSec" said Monday night they caught the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) red-handed spying on Apple customers, and published over 1 million unique device identification numbers they allegedly pulled out of an FBI database.

In all, the hackers claimed that the FBI files they accessed had more than 12 million Apple UDIDs, the unique identifier associated with every iPhone and iPad that comes off the production line. They also said that most UDIDs in the FBI's database had names, cell phone numbers and addresses attached to them, which were edited out before publication. Apple has sold nearly 200 million iPhones and more than 50 million iPads since both devices' debut.

Apple has been phasing out the UDID standard, and recently made changes to prevent third-party applications from sending users' UDIDs to unknown parties. Apple told a congressional inquiry in 2010 that it cannot track iPhones in real time, but a hacker named Eric Smith noted that third party applications can transmit UDIDs, which could potentially be linked to the owner and used to track that person.

And that's precisely what hackers with Anonymous think the FBI was doing.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 03:23:44 PM EST
Not surprising.

Information security, if they think of it at all, is an after-thought/after-hack in the consumer electronics market.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 06:20:18 PM EST
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Doco on Goldman Sachs on the box just now (Arte). Pascal Canfin interrogating Draghi in the European Parliament about his involvement with selling strange financial instruments to the Greek government.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 03:53:41 PM EST
I'm not watching but recording.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:10:07 PM EST
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Saw it in the background, nothing we haven't heard many times here on ET (but the SO seeemed to find it fascinating...)

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 04:40:43 PM EST
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Was at the christening ceremony of a big new offshore wind installation vessel yesterday, am planning a full photo diary but am too tired tonight.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2012 at 06:04:56 PM EST
Spiegel version of German offshore wind HERE (Don't forget to check out the photo section)


In his 1957 work "Book of Imaginary Beings," Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges describes Zaratan, an ocean turtle that was so large that she served as an artificial island. Forests grew on her shell.

The managers of the British offshore firm Seajacks have developed such an affinity for the monster that they named their latest creation after the mythical being. Their Zaratan looks like a giant barge. It has a huge crane and four hydraulic legs, each of them 85 meters (280 feet) long. The legs allow it to lift itself out of the water like an insect.

No construction during the summer to protect the harbor porpoises nursing their young, but after 1 september all systems are go. Here's the Zaratan loading a monopile for WindMV's Meerwind project:

Spiegel editorializing in journalism, not opinion piece:


Assheuer... is visibly tense. The entire financial world views with concern Germany's hastily announced energy revolution, which aims to boost renewable energy to 35 percent of total power consumption in Germany by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050 while phasing out all of Germany's nuclear power reactors by 2022. Billions are at stake, and many aspects of the energy transition are in sorry shape.

Give me a break, Spiegel, this is a young industry with new technology demanding new solutions. And most of the problems to date are with the grid buildout, which must be done anyway. Spiegel, your specialized FDP news source.

PS. I'm betting that J's picture is not the Zaratan, because the foundations are for Windreich's Global Tech 1, tripod foundations for Areva Wind machines.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 04:10:44 AM EST
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My picture is the Innovation in Bremerhaven, not the Zaratan.

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 5th, 2012 at 05:16:58 AM EST
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