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by afew Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:14:16 AM EST

Have to get used to finding it here


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Whoa, almost missed it! But since I spent the whole day reorganizing the household and backing up all my files on a portable hard drive, I was alert to the reorganizational mode of the Eurotrib. Looks nice, too.


'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 11:37:31 AM EST
Lookin' sharp!

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:30:10 PM EST
Noisy French metal birds taking off every two hours at the airport nearby...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:44:44 PM EST
Hey. No leaking sensitive information. If I said what I knew...

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:40:28 AM EST
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... this sort of screaming metal bird?

I'm not familiar with the fauna in your parts.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:50:23 AM EST
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"Hurlant" would be "vomit" in English, right?

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 01:04:51 PM EST
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No, it means "screaming", not "hurling". "Métal hurlant" was (is?) a seminal French sci-fi comic magazine.

I'll add that to my list of amusing "faux ami" words in French that mean something entirely different to what an English speaker might assume.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jan 17th, 2013 at 05:14:29 AM EST
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After my last experience with a Dell product I swore I'd never buy anything from them ever again so this matters, to me, not at all:

Dell stock soars on report of potential acquisition by private-equity firms.

Rumors are now swirling that Dell--the famed PC maker that popularized mainstream customization--may soon be acquired by a private-equity firm, according to a report in Bloomberg citing two unnamed sources.

With hardware sales flat or declining, customer resistance to Windows 8 and no new Must Have products in the near future buying Dell at premium prices looks like a stupid move.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:50:20 PM EST
Can you still get them without OS? Might still be sensible to go that way and run Linux. Otherwise just default to Mac like everybody else is these days.

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https:
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by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 02:18:06 PM EST
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i had a friend visit with a notebook, acer iirc, which had come with MS and he had a new OS called hackingtosh, undistinguishable from OSX to my eyes.

any one know it?

the new layout is a breath of fresh air, but trib ex is sorely missed in chrome.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:28:33 PM EST
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Try clearing cache and browsing history in Firefox.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 03:35:36 PM EST
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Wikipedia has more then you would want to know about Hackingtosh.

OSx86 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OSx86 (from Mac OS X and x86) is a collaborative hacking project to run the Mac OS X computer operating system on non-Apple personal computers with x86 architecture and x86-64 compatible processors. The effort started soon after the June 2005 Worldwide Developers Conference announcement that Apple would be transitioning its personal computers from PowerPC to Intel microprocessors.

A computer built to run this type of Mac OS X is also known as a Hackintosh,[1] a portmanteau of the word "hack" and the name of Apple's main brand of computers, Macintosh. Hackintoshed notebook computers are also referred to as "Hackbooks".

The Apple software license does not allow Mac OS X to be used on a computer that is not "Apple-branded".[2] The legality of this form of tying is disputed by companies such as Psystar, Bizon computer, PearC and MacPC who have attempted to release products using Mac OS on non Apple-machines. However, while the methods Apple uses to prevent Mac OS X from being installed on non-Apple hardware are protected from commercial circumvention in the United States by the DMCA,[3] specific changes to the law regarding the concept of jailbreaking has thrown such and similar circumvention methods into a grey area when carried out by end-users for personal use.[4][not in citation given]

Apple makes their money selling overpriced branded hardware so they do not like parts slipping away from their control. If you can get the branded effect and buying cheaper hardware the business model is in trouble. For history see Macintosh clone. For what they fear, see the history of IBM compatible computers, today commonly defined by their Microsoft operating system.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 04:20:14 PM EST
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For our purposes Macs are more expensive and no better than a Wintel.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 04:55:40 PM EST
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You will find some disagreement with that statement on both counts. But i won't start...

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:03:58 PM EST
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I require programming language compilers and DSEs not available on Macs.  Also Apple is not developer friendly and I don't want to put myself in a position of being sued for violating their ever-expanding notions of Intellectual Property.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:14:00 PM EST
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Obviously, i took your "our" to mean us, not your specialized needs.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:48:16 AM EST
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You need Linux.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:49:03 AM EST
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Have a Linux machine gathering dust one meter to my right.  For what I need to accomplish Wintel was the better choice.


Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 12:40:45 PM EST
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Yeah, like on el-cheapo PCs, the keyboards work consistently and the keys don't fall off. Unlike Macs.

Nothing more frustrating than a broken key top. You would be amazed at how often the letter "K" is used...

Yeah, take it to the store and they will fix it for free... I know, because they already fixed my ; and . keys...

Plus, when your computer is running any reasonable set of applications, then the touchpad driver is too far down in the interrupt priority list and it doesn't respond right... But it does have a nice shiny aluminum case--too bad about the sharp edge that digs into your wrist; style requires pain don't you know...

by asdf on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:47:36 PM EST
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Or buy the sub-assemblies, assemble it yourself and save some money.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:52:31 PM EST
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There have long been rumors of Sarkozy intervention with anti-doping authorities in France. Partly because a key labs budget was cut in half directly after a breakfast with Armstrong. Which names will Armstrong rat out?

I just learned of Sarkozy's quote a few years back when the rumors surfaced: "Even Asterix took magic potion."

(I am certain some here at ET know far more of this than i.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:08:42 PM EST
there was a story about gendarmes being outside of Armstrong's hotel and being called back, some years ago.

Also, rumours about Armstrong being warned of doping tests in advance but the rumours are that someone in Lausanne at the doping agency was helping him.  The newspapers in Switzerland were all a twitter about this.

by stevesim on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:15:35 PM EST
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And of course we want to believe it, so caution is required...

But checking it out, yes, and I can't believe I missed it : the story broke last summer (a scientist of the French anti-doping agency, AFLD, described how Armstrong always got notice of dope tests, and alleges that Sarkozy fired the AFLD's head)
Last October, this is confirmed by the guy who got fired (his agency's budget was cut in half at the same time), and he explains how Lance had been gunning for him for a while, and used his friendship with Sarko to get rid of him.

All confirmed. Another stake through Sarko's evil heart.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 04:05:28 AM EST
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What's not obvious to me is why Armstrong would fold now. Seems like he has been able to hold off the problem for a long time; what has changed that makes him want to change his story?
by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:49:19 AM EST
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I'm wondering if it's psychological or financial. I'm guessing he's ruined, there will be back taxes to pay apparently. Mentally, I'm guessing he can't handle being hated, he needs to be loved, and so he is seeking redemption through confession. Or something.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:59:27 AM EST
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NASA today released the global 2012 temperature data, after releasing the continental US a few weeks ago. The sceptic community has been out in full attack for weeks, with all manner of studies showing why NASA is purposefully falsifying data.

Complete with a justification conspiracy theory, that this is all about people invested in continuing grant money.

I left the discussion when i was called an envrio-fascist who was anti-science and a 1930s Stalinist.

Oh, and it's getting warmer.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:13:18 PM EST
I don't blame you.
But you're not supposed to leave until you're Hitler, surely?

(What's the Godwin's Law equivalent for Stalin?)


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by Number 6 on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 11:31:22 AM EST
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It snowed today, starting about 11:30 AM. We have received about 1cm, but it was about -3C when snowfall began and is now about -2 and has been overcast all day, so there has been almost no melting. Roofs are covered, and the ground is covered, but with grass and leaves pushing up through the thin layer of snow.

I am such a creature of habit that I only just found today's open thread. I kept looking under 'home' in the diary list. Then I went to 'recent comments' and saw that there was an OT, went back to 'home' and finally saw it in its new location. Only then did I remember the discussions of the advantages of its new location. Perhaps it should be made to flash for those of us like me who are somewhat impaired, even while stone cold sober. :-)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:21:42 PM EST
A bit of snow last night but it's pretty much gone now. The forecast for the next couple of days is sub-zero temperatures until the week-end but no further snow...
by Bernard on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:41:48 PM EST
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italy is due for a major snow dump on friday, and not just in the mountains, supposedly followed by 3 weeks of subzero.

a replay of last february, it sounds like.

here we go...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:44:46 PM EST
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Today is the second day in a row when temperatures never got above freezing. It will be followed by ten or more days when the low is below freezing. I was hoping for spells of 10C+ days in January and February but it looks like striking out for January. And usually the worst of winter is end of January/beginning of February.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:40:29 PM EST
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More precipitation, in any form, would be very welcome.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:41:33 PM EST
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we've had an unusually wet winter so far, slightly warmer too.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 08:14:29 AM EST
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The Colorado Springs reservoirs are at about 50% of normal capacity, which is where they were in 2002 when the area was distinctly in a severe drought. So we will probably have to thin out our garden this summer...
by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:50:42 AM EST
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We have a well which we use for landscape and gardening - mostly gardening. So far it is holding out.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 12:27:09 PM EST
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Yeah, Denver has that, too. Pumping it down as fast as they can. We are smarter, though, and rely almost entirely on melting snow for our water. Filtered through old mining dumps to get the required mineral content...
by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 12:40:49 PM EST
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We have a much lower population density and almost all wells were drilled for single residence occupancy water supply in rural areas. In our case the property was subsequently incorporated into the City of Mountain Home and the former owner connected to city water and sewer. We do have an abandoned rock quarry upstream of our property, but the creek draining that property runs about 100' from our property, at the closest and is downhill. It feeds into our neighbor's pond, a former stock pond that now has a wood terrace and walk from which to view the water moccasins cavorting.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:37:07 PM EST
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I have never seen "cavorting" used to describe "water moccasins."

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 05:11:48 PM EST
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Maybe you have never lived in a place where the wealthy hire pool boys to go out and scoop the snakes out of their fancy swimming pools so they can luxuriate in the heat.
by asdf on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:00:24 PM EST
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My sympathies. I'm so engaged in my hobbies that I'm not concerned about the weather except that being experienced by friends (that includes EuroTrib) and family. And they're almost ALL having f#@'d up weather, so that tells you something.

Just some lovely snow and winter wonderland here. Y'all stay warm and dry!

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 01:11:13 PM EST
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Blood & Treasure

"My friend is a construction magnate in [SECOND-TIER CHINESE MINING CITY], and he has to fly seven city management officials to Paris, because they got him a permit to build a seafood mall last year."

"Huh.  Business class?"

"Yes."  

"So that's about ... $30,000."

"Oh, he has to fly their families too. And they have to stay in five-star hotels."

"Wow.  So I guess about ... say 3.5 people a family ... $150,000 or more ..."

"He's paying for all their shopping."

trib x works through chrome if grabbed in FF.

i f i clean my cache in FF, will i lose my bookmarks?

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 05:41:54 PM EST
will i lose my bookmarks?

No.

Tools > Clear Recent History

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 03:43:17 AM EST
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a-sun-liberation-16-1-2013-0607

Liberation area, Nice


a-valrose-uni-nice-16-1-2013-0610

Valrose campus, Nice university


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Jan 16th, 2013 at 01:06:14 PM EST


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