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by Colman Tue Jan 15th, 2013 at 09:37:56 AM EST
We're still moving the furniture around, but everything should work pretty much the same as before - it's just a reskin of the underlying software, not a change in software.
Please report bugs here.
Now I'm entitled to complain :
(i.e. proactive betatesting etc...)
Funny stuff with the Tribext plus-four button : "+4" doesn't display in the listbox until a comment has been +4'd; and it seems to do a page reload instead of a javascript update. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
i used to get that bug fairly often, it would repeat the same tomfoolery several times in a row then mysteriously sort itself.
damn blogging at ET without tribext is like having one hand tied behind your back.
the sound of one handed clapping proceeds unchecked.
whaaaa... why can't FF work with ET, <sob> It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
As far as I can see, FF users, me included, aren't having this problem.
...So perhaps I should just shut up now. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Also unordered list <ul></ul> isn't producing bullet points.
<p></p> isn't working either.
I'm opening and closing each line in this HTML formatted comment
But no line feed.
By the way, I like this new design... ;-) "Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
Is the total width of #container fixed/hardcoded to a certain number of pixels? -----sapere aude
Safari is OK
(You will have seen the
i.e. (at a guess) there isn't a proper "user page" template yet. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
whereas it should presumably go to the user's profile page, i.e. http://www.eurotrib.com/user/eurogreen instead of http://www.eurotrib.com/user/eurogreen/diary
... and the /diary template needs a cleanup. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
How about a wee fix? It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
now i wonder was it a glitch, lol.
i''ll try rebooting FF and report back... It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
you are the media you consume.
weird, i tried rebooting FF and it routs immediately to booman still.
would tweaking FF prefs help?
until tribext is ready it's not a problem to stay with chrome or safari, both are snappier anyway lately, tho i haven't done the latest FF update, they come so often.
mind you it could be something off the wall. i remember that till this year i couldn't ever post a comment unless it was a reply to someone else's comment. that was hella frustrating, and it suddenly worked properly with no tweaks on my part.
computers are most unlinear machines ever, but you all must know that better than i do! It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
How do I see my recent replies? In the old version I could click on my username and see them...
There is a problem apparently and I can't post in it, which is a bit of a nuisance keep to the Fen Causeway
The beer-related excitement today in Colorado Springs is that the Manitou Incline, an abandoned funicular railroad, has been formally abandoned and the ROW converted to a running track. Which it has unofficially and illegally been for a couple of decades.
So naturally the nearby brewery is hosting a celebration!
COME ONE, COME ALL!!Down to Bristol Brewery to support the Incline! $1 from every beer sold tonight from 5-9 goes to support the Incline!— Incline Friends (@InclineFriends)
COME ONE, COME ALL!!Down to Bristol Brewery to support the Incline! $1 from every beer sold tonight from 5-9 goes to support the Incline!
I guess we still can not change the name "diaries" to "articles"? A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
When I click on a user name I come to their diaries http://www.eurotrib.com/user/uid:2614/diary leads to ArGeezers diaries. But the top bar with the option of checking their comments is missing. On the other hand if I type http://www.eurotrib.com/user/uid:2614/comments I get both ARGeezers comments and the top bar with Info Diary Comments Ratings Stories. This is particularly confusing if you click a user that has no diaries. A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
On Safari/OSX, Sven's comment seemed much smarter to me. Perhaps that's a bug in my cranial software.
I will welcome the day when the site width becomes variable with window size again, per Colman.
And i'll look forward to the day when Scoop is history. But i'm truly appreciative of the time and effort to make the upgrade, Danke, merci, thanks. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Looks fine to me. Update Chrome?
Still exactly the same for me. Horrible.
http://pre.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001
instead of: http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001
TribExt doesn't work there and when you click on the Home link (not the bouncing box), you get to an "pre.eurotrib.com" version of the site, something like an alternate reality Eurotrib....
I like that the indentation is smaller: that will allow to better follow long comment threads who tend to crowd on the right hand side.
Any way to get rid of the two gray bars on each side? Or adjust their sizes? I have an old 4:3 monitor and this is taking a good chunk of usable area. The diaries and the comment are squeezed into barely 60% of the (admittedly limited) screen width.
(Waddya mean, get yourself a real monitor? :-) Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
nice to see the FB etc buttons too, well done! It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
Best not to edit out the markup for now, till Colman's worked out why this is happening.
(But you knew that.) It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
You can always override the stylesheet for the site in your browser settings . I could rough out an override if there are many annoyed people.
On the comments editing page, the text is showing as Helvetica 11, which is sort of small--but ok for me.
The text "The Trillion $ Coin" on the right panel displays as 14 bold with wide spacing.
Yes, some of the sub-pages need the fonts tweaked up a bit.
I've been reading about and advocating the Trillion $ Coin option as a means of avoiding
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woke up to snow all around and ET< FF and tribext all playing nice together.
it's a beautiful day in cyberspace/ It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
everything works now yaya! woke up to snow all around and ET< FF and tribext all playing nice together
woke up to snow all around and ET< FF and tribext all playing nice together
Hope they still do even if it thaws. :-)
I'm experimenting with Trello for this sort of issue tracking.
Yippeeee!!!!!! I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
I've turned off using $ and $$ as delimiters, so you have to use \ [ \ ] and \ ( \ ) instead. You also need to use either "Plain text" or "HTML Formatted" for your comment.
According to Yves Smith (Econned, p.149) a trader actually sold a financial instrument with a guaranteed return of
\[ \max(0, \mathord{\hbox{NP}} \times 7 \times ( (L^2 \times {1 \over L} ) - (L^4 \times L^{-3})) \times {\mathord{\hbox{days in the month}} \over 360 })\] where \(\mathord{\hbox{NP}} = \$ 600 \) and \( L\) is the 6-month dollar LIBOR rate. (Somebody actually paid \( \$ 4\times {10^6} \) a month for 3 years for this).
e.g.
\( \begin{array}{ll}\bullet&\hbox{laziness}\\ \bullet&\hbox{is my}\\ \bullet&\hbox{style}\end{array} \)
Though this is probably not the best way to do it \(\dots\)
but I've been getting infrequent occurrences where the page loads without any comments at all (everything else is there, headers sidebars etc)
and if I reload it, it displays correctly but of course none of the comments are flagged as "new".
Does that make any sense to anyone? It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Any way to adjust this? Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
Simply expanding the width of the article text isn't terribly useful, since you just end up with unwieldy text widths.
I could set it up to increase the font size to maintain the text measure, but then you'll have very few lines per screen.
Thoughts?
I'm sure someone must have done a fisking of web site layouts in function of ideological orientation.
Any other solution means you lose most of the control over layout. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
the display width is fixed in terms of number of characters displayed, and is padded out to the width of your window.
<fiddles with the FF window width to see how it changes>
Ah, OK: I get it now. The "fixed number of characters displayed" rule is not bad at all, actually; keeps the reading pleasant.
My regret then would be that the very long comment threads (like in this diary) apparently cannot use more space on the right and extend up to the right hand gray bar. The "old layout" seemed to me more flexible in that regard (or was it?). Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
if the grey bars become a photo, then we're in twitter land, in which i think i might still choose grey bar. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
(And I'm really not a hating person. Come to think of it, it's mostly technology I hate.) It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Come to think of it, that is not correct at all, because I have already viewed the thread after posting said comment, so it should no longer be "new", if it is re-executing the original URL of that page.
Yeah, javascript.
OK, I'll be a disciplined user and explain why the changed behaviour is a problem for me : When I'm reading the new comments in a thread, sometimes I post a reply, then flick back to where I was, so I can go to the next "new" (unread by me) comment. This is no longer supported, apparently. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
After hitting the back button twice, the URL is : http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2013/1/15/93756/6001
and yet it displays (in red) comment 161, which shouldn't exist in that version of the page.
Perhaps we've discovered a wormhole in the space-time continuum. The consequences could be devastating : instead of just looking at the past, I'm going back to the past and changing it. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
My way of handling this has always been to do the comment in a new tab, keeping the former version of the page up in the first tab I can then return to.
So I don't remember how your system worked before.
Actually, I vaguely wonder if it's related to the comments not displaying problem people are getting periodically.
it used to happen but command- would scale it down to legible levels. now it shrinks the comment and cuts off both sides.
(in case anyone's wondering why there are a lot of typos lately!
whle we're at it, the 'new' thingy was always a bit wonky, if i read a comment in recent comments, it would still show up as new if viewed in it's diary, salon or OT.
sometimes the recent comments comes up with just one or two comments, refreshing doesn't help, and it corrects itself after a variable while.
last gripe... when i give a 4 in the comment replies, they don't take, though they look like they do, when you go see the comment in context, it remains 4'd.
the comment font size issue is fine in chrome. It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
if i read a comment in recent comments, it would still show up as new if viewed in it's diary, salon or OT
Not a bug. The software runs the "new comment" count on the basis of the fully opened story. View via Recent Comments or a comment search doesn't count. Can't be changed.
melo:
Probably just the moment when the Newsroom is being made in advance of posting. So not a bug, just a temporary annoyance.
I don't know about the comment edit box font size issue, if it only occurs in FF. But check Profile>Settings>Interface Preferences to see if you have a font and font size set. If so, delete those settings and Save Preferences.
However, I had to post that image via a pic hosting site since, though it uploaded OK to site files, it wouldn't display.
Any ideas? Orthodoxy is not a religion.
As it is set up now, the news diary is hidden below a big banner and the open threads. The open threads are fun but maybe not as important as the news.
So my suggestion is to reverse these two items, putting the news stories over the open diaries.
my suggestion is to reverse these two items, putting the news stories over the open diaries
This has come from others too.
Makes sense to me.
is it just that ETers are busier in the evenings, or is blogging energy getting routed more into diary commenting and what-used-to-be-salons?
have to see site stats to know i guess...
open threads have lost out in the change, what would be interesting is if other features have gained, if any, and whether others miss the OT's, which were the most playful side of the site.
not serious enough maybe!
overall i love the changes, just a bit sad to see the sun setting on the OT's.
quite remarkable what the 'social engineering' of relocating once-familiar links can do to site traffic.
are we so visually controllable?
cue refrain: "correlation is not causation"
guess we can do what we did elsewhere, maybe we were having too much fun posting silly pics while rome is burning... It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter
I don't understand the word "buried". On my screen there is a very clear "A Place To Talk" banner bang smack in the middle. If regular community members here can't find that, then the fabled smartness of ETers perhaps needs revising downwards?
There are no site stats on "hits" received by the OT (or any other diary).
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