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23 January 2013

by ceebs Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:39:40 PM EST

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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:39:05 PM EST
BBC News - Policeman and journalist charged in payments probe

A former Met Police officer has been charged in connection with alleged illegal payments for information and a Sun journalist will also be charged.

Paul Flattley, of Stockport, Cheshire, was charged with conspiracy to commit misconduct in a public office. He will appear in court on 11 February.

Sun defence editor Virginia Wheeler faces the same charge, the Crown Prosecution Service says.

The officer was allegedly paid more than £6,000 for information.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:08:06 PM EST
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Sun's defence editor charged under Operation Elveden | UK news | guardian.co.uk

The Sun's defence editor, Virginia Wheeler, has been charged with conspiracy to commit misconduct in public office, the crown prosecution service has announced.

A former Metropolitan police officer, Paul Flattley, has also been charged with the same offence, the CPS confirmed on Tuesday morning.

Arrested last March, the 33-year-old Wheeler was the 23rd person to be detained by Scotland Yard as part of Operation Elveden.

She is the Sun's first female defence editor and reported from the front line in Libya in 2011.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:15:53 PM EST
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She is the Sun's first female defence editor and reported from the front line in Libya in 2011.

Hope she finds her trial as exciting as she found Libya to be.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 04:50:41 PM EST
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BBC News - France and Germany mark Elysee pact's 50th anniversary

France and Germany are marking the 50th anniversary of a treaty that helped to reconcile the two former foes.

French President Francois Hollande told a joint session of their parliaments in Berlin that a generation had grown up knowing only peace and democracy.

But he warned that they faced "an economic and social crisis of unprecedented duration".

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the two states would work on deeper economic and fiscal integration.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:09:39 PM EST
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BBC News - Rotterdam Dutch art thefts lead to Romania arrests

Police in Romania have detained three suspects linked to a major art heist, which took place at a Dutch art gallery last October, officials say.

"Three people have been arrested, but unfortunately we did not get the paintings back," a Dutch police spokeswoman confirmed.

Seven masterpieces by artists including Picasso and Monet were stolen from the Kunsthal Museum in Rotterdam.

They had been shown as part of the gallery's 20th anniversary exhibition



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:11:03 PM EST
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Athens' metro strikers defy court order - Europe - Al Jazeera English

Athens has been paralysed by huge traffic jams after metro workers, protesting new pay cuts, defied a court order to return to work and continued to strike for the sixth consecutive day

"With these latest cuts, someone like me who earned 1,300 euros ($1,732) per month will end up clearing something like 700 euros ($933)," said Antonis Stamatopoulos, who heads the metro worker's union.

"What's the point of working? We work underground, in the freezing cold at winter and often through the night and we cannot live on what we earn."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:26:34 PM EST
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That pretty much defines the life of the Republican coal miner in West Virginia. Or, probably, China.
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:15:01 PM EST
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Patriot missile equipment arrive in Turkey - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

A German ship carrying Patriot missile equipment has arrived in the Turkish port of Iskenderun as part of an effort to stop violence in Syria from spilling over its borders.

The Suecia Seaways vessel arrived on Monday after the Netherlands-registered Louise Russ ship also carrying missile kits pulled into the area on Sunday night.

The day before, 240 German troops touched down in Turkey; they will be deployed on the border with Syria as part of a NATO mission.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:27:54 PM EST
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BBC News - Norway goat cheese fire closes tunnel

A road tunnel in Norway has been closed - by a lorry-load of burning cheese.

About 27 tonnes of caramelised brown goat cheese - a delicacy known as Brunost - caught light as it was being driven through the Brattli Tunnel at Tysfjord, northern Norway, last week.

The fire raged for five days and smouldering toxic gases were slowing the recovery operation, officials said.

The tunnel - which is said to be badly damaged - is likely to remain closed for several weeks, they added.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:44:20 PM EST
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Why can't we know the truth about a strike that happened 40 years ago? | Ricky Tomlinson | Comment is free | The Guardian

Forty years and still no justice. It's a part of history now, but a history that has never been fully told. The Shrewsbury building workers' strikes of 1972, which saw 24 working men convicted for crimes they did not commit, are nothing short of a state-sanctioned conspiracy. And as the youngest of us is now 68, I'm nearly 74 and the eldest of us is 84, we worry that the truth will not out before it's too late.

We now know, thanks to the current government, that papers pivotal to the case will not be released for another 10 years - a decision that was taken by the Ministry of Justice without consulting any of us who have survived. And so the question remains: who is this government, like Edward Heath's government of the early 1970s, trying to protect? What are they hiding? Why is it that in a modern democracy, in a so-called age of transparency, that we have to struggle for the truth?



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 03:19:19 PM EST
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Why is it that in a modern democracy, in a so-called age of transparency, that we have to struggle for the truth?

Faulty premises.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:00:27 PM EST
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Trident: no need for like-for-like replacement, says Danny Alexander | UK news | The Guardian

The UK does not need to replace the Trident fleet with "like-for-like" nuclear submarines that will cost the country billions of pounds at a time of national austerity, the chief secretary of the Treasury, Danny Alexander, insists.

In an interview with the Guardian, Alexander said MPs from all parties and senior officers in the military should accept there are "credible and compelling alternatives" to continuous at-sea deterrence, and he warned that the Treasury did not have "a magic pot of money" to pay for a new generation of "Successor" submarines.

The world had changed, he said, and so had the defence assumptions that underpinned the position since the cold war.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 03:19:46 PM EST
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Right on. But the argument, such as it was, for nuclear bombs, delivered by missiles from submarines, was that it was cheaper to build a handful of them than the thousands of ships and airplanes that they replaced. So if there's to be no nukes, then what, will there be a 300 ship conventional Navy? An RAF with several thousand airplanes? An army with millions of soldiers?
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:39:50 PM EST
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Not really. we're no longer facing an alleged existential threat c/o the soviet Union, so we don't need that large military force capable of slugging it out with a mighty aggressor.

It's about time that Britain stopped believing in its "White Man's Burden" of having to go round the world teaching dusky natives how to behave and created a military force commensurate with our needs and capabilities

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:19:42 AM EST
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I love the smell of burning pork in the mornings.

Trident or something very like it will happen anyway.

It's inconceivable that the UK would give up a place at the nukular big hat important person table, and equally inconceivable that government contracts to the value of will suddenly stop being pushed towards the UK and US corporates in charge of blowing shit up in a really noisy way.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:40:56 AM EST
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Well yes but, as the original article points out, Britain's real defense interests are being compromised beyond breaking point by a commitment to a nuclear deterrent against well who knows being maintained at 1980s insano-rama levels

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:51:38 AM EST
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The idea of an independent nuclear deterrent, which could survive a first strike and do unacceptable damage in retaliation, is surely consigned to the dustbin of history.

However, how else could an independent British nuclear deterrent be framed? Is there any other nuclear weapons system that the Yanks will actually give the Brits the keys for? i.e. decision to fire or not to fire.

So it might be strategic submarines or nothing, from a fictitious "great power" point of view.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 06:05:54 AM EST
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Prolly should write off the Falklands right now then, I guess...
by asdf on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:11:49 PM EST
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Nah, the Falklands will go just before gibraltar and that will happen after hell freezes

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:17:29 PM EST
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The gaul! Former French President Nicolas Sarkozky reportedly wished to escape nation's high taxes by fleeing to ... England! - NY Daily News

Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy was reportedly plotting an escape to London to avoid a proposed new "millionaire's tax" and elude a corruption probe that could send him to jail.

Sarkozy's scheme was discovered after detectives raided his Paris mansion in June and found a "first draft" of the plan on his confiscated computer files, the French investigative news site Mediapart reported.

They busted into Sarkozy's spread a month after he was defeated by Socialist rival Francois Hollande in the presidential election -- and lost his immunity from prosecution.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 03:35:12 PM EST
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Another argument for a federated Europe, where most of your income tax is paid at the federal level...
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:42:29 PM EST
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That is certainly true. And with payment of taxes, come representation and transfer payments to regions in financial difficulty.

Which is why Germany refuses to hear any language concerning new taxes at the Union level. Federation yes, a real, working federation, no.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:18:09 AM EST
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Story from Mediapart alone (unless the Canard Enchaîné publishes on it today). Fairly convincingly denied by Sarko friends. It doesn't seem to have legs for the moment.

Mainly because Sarko has every reason to go on being interested in a political future, his successors at the UMP having made such a dog's dinner of the leadership of the right.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:14:58 AM EST
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Conservative Council Leader Quits Over `Lie Detector' Tests On Benefit Claimants | Welfare News Service

The Conservative group leader at Cornwall council has quit her post over the use of "lie detector" tests on people claiming benefits.

Fiona Ferguson, who was responsible for corporate resources at the unitary authority, cited concerns about the use of voice risk analysis (VRA) software. In her resignation letter to Jim Currie, Tory leader of the council, Ferguson warned that using VRA would not help the council to pursue fraud and would be "extremely damaging to our reputation".

She added: "It is clearly right that Cornwall council takes a strong line against people who deliberately mis-claim tax benefits but in this case I am more concerned about the impact on the vast majority of honest claimants."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 08:41:45 PM EST
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Waterboarding claimants is coming, you can feel it

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:28:52 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:45:54 AM EST
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Eurointelligence: Daily Morning NewsbriefingFog in the English channel - someone about to be cut off (23.01.2013)
British PM will today announce intention to hold an in-or-out referendum on EU membership; referendum like to come before 2017 after agreement on a new European treaty to accommodate changes for a deeper integration of the eurozone; while the UK is slowly preparing for an exit, Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande decided to make joint proposals ahead of the June European Council, covering coordination in labour market, social security and financial stability; Stefan Kornelius welcomes the announcement, and says Franco-German still has some substance left; France and Germany also agree on proposals to hive off risky own-account trading from banking activities; but they underline their continued commitment to the large universal bank, resisting a separation between commercial and investment bank activities; Ireland signals interest in an OMT programme, and may apply after the success of two nine-year bond auctions; the Wall Street Journal writes in an editorial that even the hawks in the Bundesbank should have an interest in a deal on Irish promissory notes; the Ecofin has approved the enhanced coordinatation to set up a financial transactions tax among eleven eurozone states; Greek prosecutors are charging the head of the statistics office  for allegedly inflating the 2009 deficit numbers; the president of the Italian banking association resigns, as a derivatives scandal is catching up with him; polls show Beppe Grillo as the big loser in the Italian elections, as he is losing votes to Monti; a report says that the recession is hugely damaging for Italy's middle classes; Italian personal incomes have hit their lowest level in real terms since 1986; Gilberto Muraro argues that Italy cannot afford to abolish the unpopular property tax IMU; German exporters see the euro at $1.40 as a result of the Japanese monetary loosening, but argue that it won't have a big effect on German exports; the highly volatile ZEW index has a massive swing in January, as investors and analysts become very optimistic about the German economy; Jose Maria Aznar files suit against El Pais over its allegations that the former PM had set up slush funds to provide additional income to political friends; Spain has lifted the legal requirement that bankers are honourable and competent; at the Ecofin, Spain was the only country to vote against Jeroen Dijsselbloem as the eurogroup president because it rejects the notion of job allocation based on the credit-debtor country divide; Charles Goodhart, Melanie Baker, and Jonathan Ashworth, meanwhile, make an eloquent case against nominal GDP targeting, saying that forecast errors would have a devastating impact on inflation.


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:44:43 AM EST
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Spain has lifted the legal requirement that bankers are honourable and competent

It's like the decline in the custom of the bride wearing white at the wedding. I mean, who are we kidding.

[Eurogreen's Macho Moment of the Day™ Technology]

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:51:30 AM EST
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Spain no longer requires bankers to be honourable and experienced

El Pais reports that the Spanish Government intends to amend the legislation on banking to relax the requirements of "honourability, experience and good governance" applying to banking executives [see PDF of draft decree, from RTVE]. Where the current law states that "in any case, it will be understood that such honourability is lacking in those who have a criminal record, are inhibited to hold a public office or a directorship in a financial institution, or are inhibited by reason of insolvency", the proposed draft gives the Bank of Spain latitude to judge whether people "have been showing a conduct casting no doubt on their ability to manage a financial institution diligently and prudently", followed by a full page of criteria that must be taken into account. El Pais writes that sources in the Economy Ministry argue that the decree is based on guidelines from the European Banking Authority.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 06:16:13 AM EST
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hey, lighten up...

good crooks are hard to find!

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:01:49 PM EST
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EU freezes approval of new GMO crop cultivation | EurActiv

The European Commission  doesn't plan to give the green light to new genetically modified crops in the coming months, as it wants first an agreement on the draft legislation that would allow member governments to decide individually whether to grow or ban GM plants, a spokesperson said yesterday (22 January).

The draft rules proposed by the European Commission in 2010 were meant to unblock EU decision-making on genetically modified crops, by allowing some countries to use the technology while letting others impose cultivation bans.

But opposition from France, Germany and Britain has prevented agreement on the proposals, which must be approved by a majority of governments and the European Parliament before becoming law.

Combined with the changes concerning transparency of the test data, this could be the end!

Rollback time.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 06:01:49 AM EST
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David Cameron calls for UK exemption from EU's 'ever-closer' union | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Downing Street had indicated in recent weeks, as the speech was repeatedly delayed, that the prime minister would not set out a shopping list of demands. But he made clear that he wanted to challenge the central tenet of the EU: the pledge in the founding treaty of Rome in 1957 to create an "ever-closer union".

The prime minister said: "We understand and respect the right of others to maintain their commitment to this goal. But for Britain - and perhaps for others - it is not the objective.

Excellent! Nails his colours to the mast. The expectation will be that the British will only vote to stay in an EU which has been watered down to within an inch of its life. As the UK has no allies at all for such a European non-project (whatever allies they may have on an issue-by-issue basis), he has lost all credibility and leverage in EU negotiations.

This will presumably increase support for Scottish independence too (insofar as Scots want to stay in the EU).

Let's take up a collection to erect a statue of Cameron in Brussels.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:02:26 AM EST
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Can Scotland simply replace the UKSB in the EU if they withdraw? This would simplify all the discussions of how they would be readmitted after independence....
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:08:01 AM EST
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[Torygraph Alert]

European leaders refuse to discuss independent Scotland's EU membership with Alex Salmond:

European leaders have refused to even discuss with Alex Salmond an independent Scotland's EU membership or adoption of the euro while the prospect of the UK breaking up remains unclear.

Back in December Barroso said Scotland would not be able to join automatically, it would have to go through the process.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:17:03 PM EST
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independent Scotland to adopt the Euro, I strongly counsel a no vote.

Wtf?

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:26:03 PM EST
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Salmond wants an independent Scotland but doesn't think of putting into practice any of the heterodox monetary thinking in Scotland, which is abundant.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:39:28 PM EST
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From the little I've read it seems the Scottish Nationalist Party's economic policies are firmly Center-Right.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot
by ATinNM on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:43:25 PM EST
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Of course, they're Social Democrats (i.e., social liberal).

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:51:51 PM EST
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here reminded us, Rosa was assassinated by SDP bullets. And yet, PS/SDP clowns with no history, as here in France, many of the folks on this blog, say or feel " you want us to fail".

Guess what guys, you spent nearly 100 years actually working against us, killing us when you could, and now you belly-ache we're not lockstep behind you when you do the typical SDP catamite thing?

Too funny.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:46:15 PM EST
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Us?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:54:40 PM EST
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And, who is representing GUE/NGL in Europe for Eire?

The very same.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:15:22 PM EST
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But given what the EU has become, it's hard to disagree with the proposition that less Europe is better than more.

And no one try to tell me that more integration will maje things better. As long as the Berlin régime stays as it is, and all signs point in that direction for years to come, more integration is not good.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:03:36 AM EST
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You think Cameron's vision is going to be an improvement? It's the apotheosis of the neoliberal vision of Europe. And the Paris regime is no better than the Berlin regime on pretty much all of it - and they'll follow a pure free market EU down the path of reduced labour power and increased "free market" power.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:08:46 AM EST
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That's a false choice...as if more Europe is better than more neo-liberalism. Fact is, today's Europe is neo-liberalism with an Austrian twist, which ironically Mr Cameron's government is also following.

I'd personally prefer to go back to my national politics and national currency and take my chances. I know what the alternative is, we'be lived it for a generation and, all I can say is, enough.

Cameron is right, if for the wrong reasons.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:20:22 AM EST
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Perhaps, but that's not what he's proposing. He's proposing a free-trade zone Europe with no pesky social chapter or any of that social protection nonsense. And more labour flexibility.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:25:56 AM EST
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Most likely, some of the more democtaitic countries will, once the euro inevitably collapses and EU cohesion goes south (regardless of UK actions) also hold referenda. And I rather doubt my compatriots will be any more amenable to the British vision of the customs union as Europe as we were to the social dumping of the polish plumber.
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:33:25 AM EST
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Also, you're losing at the European level because you're losing at the national level. The fucking problem is that national politics has appointed right-wing nationalists bloody everywhere - and made right-wing nationalism respectable again.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:26:59 AM EST
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European representative Democracy, especially at the EU-wide level.

Things are going south in a number of countries in Europe. Left to its own devices, Greece will probably elect my guys next time around. Who knows, Sinn Féin may win again in Ireland. Everywhere a social democratic party has discredited itself, there is a chance for the actual left to win. And show the rest of Europe, by example, that our policies are better.

Europe-wide? Impossible. And it's not Cameron in the way. It's the Germans.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:39:04 AM EST
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Who are the right wing nationalists in Ireland? I thought the nationalist party in Ireland was the proper left there.
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:42:16 AM EST
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Nah, they're just gangsters.

FF and FG are both right-wing nationalists.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:43:51 AM EST
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FF and FG are right wing, sure. So is your labour party, by association.

But nationalist in the Front National or Jobbik sense?

PS if I'm stuck in Cork next week, what's the best  bar?

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:51:33 AM EST
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depends on your own definitions of good, but this place looks ok as a starter

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:45:02 AM EST
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I was going to say I haven't been in Cork in ages and Helen's probably a better guide. Sadly.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:42:48 PM EST
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redstar:
I'd personally prefer to go back to my national politics and national currency and take my chances. I know what the alternative is, we'be lived it for a generation and, all I can say is, enough.

How many generations were we living "national politics and national currency" before? How did that work out?

There is a currency problem, and Germany is the obstacle, I'd agree. But I'd a thousand times rather we attempt to overcome those problems within a federal framework than return to our Little-<country name> past.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:41:50 AM EST
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youth employment prior to 1939?

War.

How is it dealing with it now?

It isn't.

People can pretend there are no more nations in Europe, we're all in this together, and I'd invite those people to talk to your average German.

Meanwhile, the historical precedent for dealing with youth unemployment in Europe is still in living memory.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:46:50 AM EST
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I rather talk to my out-in-left-field German: Social protection for Spain's unemployed (Econoblog 101, January 23, 2013)
The World Bank has a study of an Argentinian anti-poverty program (Jefes/Jefas) which was started after the 2001/02 crisis. Here is the abstract:
...

The findings are that the program reduced aggregate unemployment, though it attracted as many people into the workforce from inactivity as it did people who would have been otherwise unemployed. While there was substantial leakage to formally ineligible families, and incomplete coverage of those eligible, the program did partially compensate many losers from the crisis and reduced extreme poverty. The main policy conclusion is that overall the program does appear to have contributed to social protection during the crisis, despite the fact that it's actual implementation differed from its design. Emanuela also presented some of the current discussions about how the program might be phased out after the crisis.

Of course, Spain is a richer country, but the unemployment problem is about the same. You have depression levels of unemployment, especially among the young and poorest parts of the country/society. For the while, Spain's social problems given the enormous unemployment levels are still relatively low. However, if there is no return to economic growth unemployment will stay high and that is unacceptable. These people could do something beneficial and deserve some share of the cake. The flashmob at a Spanish unemployment office below is nice. However, the problem needs to be addressed by policy makers if the market can't fix it.

Actually, the European Commission is discussing this issue. How about a policy proposal that guarantees jobs for the youth while being for by Brussels? It is just unfair that young people suffer most in the deficit countries, with youth unemployment reaching above 50% in both Spain and Greece.

And he links to Youth guarantee: getting young Europeans back to work, a PES initiative pushed by the Socialist European Commissioner for Employment, László Andor.
With unemployment now affecting nearly one in four young Europeans, the EU is looking at ways to get them working again. This Monday Parliament will debate a youth guarantee schemes that entitles young people to either work, training or education after having been unemployed for four months. It has been proposed by the Commission, which during Monday's debate will provide MEPs with more information on how it would work and how it would be funded.
("This Monday" refers to Monday last week)


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:14:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or however you say that in German.
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:22:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I also don't have high hopes that anything will come out of this, but I've been watching Laszlo Andor with sympathy. He even brought Bill Mitchell over from Australia to a conference on employment guarantees last Autumn.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:38:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
we agree (mostly) on policy. It's the strategy and tactics where we part ways.

Call me a cynic but I've been watching the Germans cause EU wide recessions in theor own interest fot 20 years. They are not going to stop on their own.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:43:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In what meaningful sense was it "Europe" in 1939?

It was independent nation states. Exactly what you say you want to go back to.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:21:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
primacy of national interest in Europe is no longer the driving force in Europe, you haven't been watching Germany over the past generation.
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:27:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And you apparently haven't been reading what I've been saying about that.

And you are not answering the point: war in 1939 was not "Europe", it was the nation states of the European continent.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:31:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And I know this isn't your Europe either.

This being said, I see that the Cour des Comptes, the next generation of the elites here in France, largely freshly minted enarques and led by a "socialist" (enarque) are recommending unemployment insurance cutbacks in the midst of France's biggest employment crisis since, well, back when unemployment was solved by war. So much for Mig's Erasmus generation.

And the 5bn€ they identify? Just waiting for some German elite to start citing it ( and I will link back to this thread).

I sympathise with your point of view, I simply find it naïve.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:39:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And is "Europe" responsible for the Cour des Comptes, or is it not an emanation of a nation-state?

I'm aware of the difficulties. There are those who might think your view on the possibilities for the "actual left" to influence political outcomes from within individual countries is naive, too. I don't see (beyond the currency question) in what way returning to our individual nations would pose fewer problems than fighting for the right kind of federal Europe.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:50:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
At this point, having 17 different currencies would have been a major improvement in the macroeconomic situation and the raw political power calculus.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:54:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Hard to tell if you are being ironical though. Surely this is not a sarcastic statement?
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:57:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No, it is a macroeconomic policy and realpolitic statement.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:16:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
social democrat / liberal feedback loop. These clowns all go do stages in other EU universities and they lap up the EU - wide conventional wisdom. That takes way more to overcome than a generation, if of course you want to do things peacefully.

My comment was on the naïveté of the Erasmus generation claim. Not that we won't have a younger generation of upper- and upper-middle class Europhiles...I think we will.

I just severely doubt that this will be a good thing.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:06:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Social Europe: New Poll: Young Brits Want To Stay In The EU (18/01/2013)
The London Office of the Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung and the Fabian Society have just released a new poll conducted by YouGov revealing a significant generational divide in British attitudes to the EU. While nationally there is a 12-point lead for those who wish to leave the European Union, amongst those aged 18-34, there is a 32-point lead in favour of remaining part of the EU.
(h/t Fran)

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:51:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Chalked it up to the younger generation in UK appreciating the significant upgrade, compared to english stock, in mating partners since more sober and fit Europeans from the continent started immigrating to england.
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:55:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
:)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:57:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or maybe they appreaciate the opportunity to go binge drink and gang bang to Prague or Riga.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 12:17:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think EasyJet and Ryanair's role in boosting the popularity of the EU is significantly under-estimated

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:20:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hey, Merkel has shown the greatest possible solidarity with Greek Oligarchs.

But really this thread is going strange places. Cameron proposes to do away with the handful EU programs that are worthwhile while keeping most everything that is rotten. Like a US libertarian who proposes to combat the evil, tyrannical government by first abolishing Social Security and Medicare.
Both positions can be described as wanting "less state" but doing so borders on the insincere.

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter

by generic on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:43:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
At the same time, it's a perfect opportunity to strategically align in order to destroy what has become a malignant German hegemon.

Enemy of your enemy, and all that.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:47:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yep, siding with your enemies to achieve your policy aims sounds like a good plan.

What could possibly go wrong?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:56:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You might win the war of '39-'45?
by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 11:59:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
An opportunity for whom? A sane faction in control of a member state could possibly use Cameron to push for a peaceful dismantling of the currency union. Sadly there is a dire lack of such factions.

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter
by generic on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:30:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It will probably take four generations of European popular  to undo what one Delors generation constructed. If we plan it.

Personally I think just taking the dive and sorting it out later will work best for most of us.

Except for the Germans.

Which is why that approach is probably best.

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:23:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
tPortal: Police still don't know what exploded in Zagreb's main square (23.01.2013)
It was a third explosion in Zagreb this month. 53-year-old Vojislav Blazevic has been remanded in custody for 30 days on suspicion of causing two explosions in a western section of the city two weeks ago.

"At this stage we cannot say that these cases are connected," Burusic said, asking the public for assistance in the investigation. He said that CCTV footage of the square and clues found at the scene were being examined.



I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 09:43:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 ECONOMY & FINANCE 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:39:41 PM EST
BBC News - Rolls-Royce Ansty to lose 378 defence jobs

Rolls-Royce is to close its UK defence operations in Ansty, near Coventry.

The union Unite has blamed government defence cuts for the closure, which will mean 378 job losses.

The company, which employs about 800 people at Ansty, said it hopes to avoid compulsory redundancies.

Unite national officer for aerospace and shipbuilding, Ian Waddell, said: "The underlying reason for the job losses is the government's defence spending cuts."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:05:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC News - Financial transactions tax in Europe given go-ahead

EU ministers have given the go ahead for 11 eurozone members, including France and Germany, to prepare a new financial transactions tax.

The approval under "enhanced co-operation" rules allows the smaller group to pioneer the tax.

Governments previously failed to agree to impose the tax across the entire 27-member EU or 17-member eurozone.

The UK and 15 other EU members will not introduce the tax, which is intended to discourage speculative trading.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:10:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Osborne and Alexander ask for coalition post-election cuts plan | Politics | guardian.co.uk

The chancellor, George Osborne, and the Treasury chief secretary, Danny Alexander, have urged the cabinet to look for further efficiencies and spending cuts in time for a spending review covering 2015-16, the first year after the election.

The spending review will probably be published in early summer. The prime minister's spokesman made no attempt to disguise the fact that government cuts would be difficult but insisted the economy was healing.

He refused to discuss the possibility that final-quarter figures for last year, due to be published on Friday, would show the economy had slipped back into negative growth.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:14:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
World unemployment figures set to rise in 2013, claims UN labour agency | Business | guardian.co.uk

A record 202 million people could be unemployed across the world in 2013, the International Labour Organization (ILO) said on Tuesday.

Five years on from the onset of the financial crisis, unemployment is on the rise again as economies around the world lose jobs and the fragile recovery is threatened by "incoherent monetary policy" in the US and Europe, said the ILO.

According to United Nation's agency's latest report, Global Employment Trends 2013, 6% of the world's workforce were without a job in 2012. The number of jobless people around the world rose by 4m in 2012 to 197m. Young people were the worst affected: nearly 13% of those under 24 were unemployed. Some 35% of all young unemployed people have been out of work for six months or longer in advanced economies, up from 28.5% in 2007.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:18:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And that undoubtedly leaves out >1 billion, mostly rural, who would never be considered part of 'the work force', despite most being poorer than those receiving any social assistance.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:06:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The ILO report doesn't say "monetary policy incoherence in the EU and the US. It says this about the EU:
Entering 2013, the crisis in the Euro area constitutes the single biggest risk to global employment trends for the year ahead (IMF, 2012b; OECD, 2012; United Nations, 2012a). The financial crisis in the Euro area, brought on by a combination of banking sector distress and protracted financial and household deleveraging, coupled with high levels of sovereign debt and unsustainably high government bond yields in some countries, has emerged as a disruptive and destabilizing force not only in the Euro area itself, but also for the global economy as a whole.

About the US, and clearly (see above) as a secondary factor, it cites in the US the fiscal cliff/austerity bomb and debt ceiling negotiations as well as flagging stimulus measures - all fiscal policy matters, not monetary, as causes for uncertainty for that labor market.

Is it too much to expect that journalists covering economics in the middle-brow press to be economically literate enough to read the reports they will thereafter report on?

Read for yourself:

http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---dgreports/---dcomm/---publ/documents/publication/wcms_202 326.pdf

by redstar on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:24:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
British gov't borrowing increases in December - Xinhua | English.news.cn

The latest official data shows that the British government borrowed more than expected in the last month of 2012, making people doubting about the government's efforts in fulfilling its deficit-cut plan.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said on Tuesday that public sector net borrowing, excluding financial interventions like bank bailouts, was 15.4 billion pounds (about 24.5 billion U.S. dollars) in December last year, which is 600 million pounds higher net borrowing than in the same period in 2011, when net borrowing was 14.8 billion pounds.

However, the newly-released figure is higher than the previous expected 15.2 billion pounds.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:23:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"making people doubting about the government's efforts in fulfilling its deficit-cut plan."

Surely at this stage it's high time to actually reach conclusions...

(it also makes me doubt about the pertinence of adding "ing" to doubt in the sentence, or am I wrong about my English grammar?)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:28:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No, you're not. Should be the infinitive.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:55:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
perhaps 'doubtful' is the appropriate term.

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:26:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Political journalist English would probably have 'raising questions about...'
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:43:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Indeed, with "about", we should not use the verb at all. It's doubt the or doubtful about the.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 06:35:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Volvo eyes China, U.S. for sales rebound - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Auto manufacturer Volvo Car Group expects the Chinese and U.S. markets to support a turnaround in its global sales in 2013 after reporting its first loss in three years.

Hakan Samuelsson, the company's president and CEO, said the U.S., its largest market, and China, its second-largest overseas buyer, will help raise its shrinking global sales, which have been weighed down by the European economic recession.

The company expects to sell 7 to 8 percent more vehicles in China and 5 percent more in the U.S. in 2013.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:24:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'll buy a Volvo when they come out with something that fits into the marketplace the way the Amazon 122S did. Best car I ever had.
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:44:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Twitter / ITVLauraK: Mervyn King warns that Friday's ...
Mervyn King warns that Friday's GDP number likely to be ''considerably weaker' than summer's figures.. also hints more QE still possibility

Twitter / ITVLauraK: King's speech reveals QE cash ...

King's speech reveals QE cash now amounts to a whopping 25% of annual GDP


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:49:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 
QE cash now amounts to a whopping 25% of annual GDP...

Were even half of that to go to poor relief it would likely make the economy boom. Giving it to bankers is just a waste.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:09:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I believe this is now known as 'The economy is healing.'
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:45:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 WORLD 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:40:07 PM EST
BBC News - Algeria crisis: Hostage death toll 'rises to 48'

At least 48 hostages are now thought to have died in a four-day siege at an Algerian gas plant, as reports say that 25 bodies found at the complex on Sunday were all those of captives.

It had initially been unclear whether the bodies found were those of hostage-takers or staff at the facility.

A search is continuing at the In Amenas gas plant, where as many as 20 hostages remain unaccounted for.

Five suspected Islamist attackers were reportedly arrested on Sunday.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:07:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC News - Israel election: High turnout as Netanyahu eyes victory

Israelis have been voting in large numbers in a general election in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to be returned to office.

Election officials said turnout was 66.3% as of 20:00 (18:00 GMT), the highest level at that time since 1999.

Before the vote, analysts had said high turnout would help centre-left parties.

Polls suggest that Mr Netanyahu's Likud-Beitenu alliance will win but with a reduced majority, having lost ground to a new party Habayit Hayehudi.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:09:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Taliban retaliate after Prince Harry compares fighting to a video game | World news | The Guardian

Prince Harry's remarks that his job as a co-pilot in an Apache attack helicopter required him to "take a life to save a life" may have disconcerted some squeamish westerners. But it was Captain Wales's somewhat blasé attitude to fighting the hardline rebels that has most riled the Taliban.

An indignant Taliban spokesman said the young prince was a coward who ran away from fighting the mujahideen, or "holy warriors", as the militants like to call themselves.

"I don't believe that he participated in the fighting," said Zabiullah Mujahid. "Maybe he has seen the mujahideen in a movie, but that's it."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:17:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Moscow dispatches planes to carry nationals leaving Syria - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Two planes left Moscow for Beirut, capital of Lebanon, Tuesday to pick up Russian nationals who wish to leave Syria, the Emergency Situations Ministry said.

A Yak-42 plane hopped off from the Domodedovo airport at noon (0800 GMT) while an Il-76 left a few minutes later from the Ramenskoye airport, both in Moscow region, the ministry's information department told the Interfax news agency.

The planes would take back some 100 Russian nationals "who wish to leave Syria," the department said, stressing "this is not an evacuation."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:23:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
UK: Israel losing support over settlements - Europe - Al Jazeera English

Britain has said that continued Israeli settlement expansion into the occupied Palestinian territories has driven hopes for a two-state solution to near death.

British foreign secretary William Hague, speaking as Israelis took to the polls on Tuesday, warned the Israeli government that their actions were costing international support.

"I hope that whatever Israeli government emerges... that it will recognise that we are approaching the last chance to bring about such a solution," Hague told parliament.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:26:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, if you don't want a two-state solution in the first place, this is not exactly bad...
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:45:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The alternative will be an apartheid state

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:46:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The alternative will be currently in place is an apartheid state
FIFY


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:05:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Three (almost identical) are here. Here is one of them
CHANNEL 2: Likud 31; Jewish Home 12; Otzma Le-Yisrael 0; Shas 12; United Torah Judaism 6; Kadiam 0; Yesh Atid (Yair Lapid) 19; Hatn'ua (Tzipi Livni) 7; Labor 17; Meretz 7; Hadash 4; Balad 2; United Arab List 3
That means that the far-right plus the religious have 61 out of 120 seats, a very narrow majority. So nobody but Netanyahu can form a government; no surprise there. The big surprise is Yair Lapid's 19 seats (polls were predicting around 11). For those who need an introduction to him, here is Uri Avnery:
AN INTERESTING character in these elections is Ya'ir Lapid.

What does he stand for? Well, he looks great . A former TV personality, he is good on TV, the only battleground in these elections. His program equates to the American "motherhood and apple pie".

He reminds me of Groucho Marx: "These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others, too."

For me he is "Lapid Lite", compared to his late father, "Tommy" Lapid, who also moved from TV into politics. Father Lapid was a much more complicated character: very likeable in personal contact, very offensive on TV, an extreme rightist in national affairs and an extreme enemy of the religious camp. His son just pleads: Vote for me because I am a nice guy.

He makes no secret of his yearning to become a minister under Netanyahu.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 04:23:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
With 99% of the vote counted, it looks like Kadima will pass the threshhold and get it. If so, this makes it a 60-60 split between far-right/religious and everybody else. Results:
As of 4 A.M. Likud-Yisrael Beiteinu claimed 31 seats in the next Knesset. The count for the rest of the parties was as follows: Yesh Atid 19, Labor 15, Shas 11, Habayit Hayehudi 11, United Torah Judaism 7, Hatnuah 6, Meretz 6, United Arab List-Ta'al 5, Balad 3, and Kadima teetering on the verge of the electoral threshold with 2 seats.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:15:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ha'aretz charmingly (wistfully?) refers to it as a 60/60 left/right split. If only.

Perhaps you could give us a rundown on who's who?

The question now is, I suppose, whether Lapid has a price for joining Bibi, in terms of coalition partners or of policy.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:25:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Meretz doubled from 3 to 6.
The hapless Barak disappears, with his traitor Labour faction.
Labour increased, I suppose that's a good thing.
The United Arab List increases, demographically.

Sociologically, Lapid's shower replaces Kadima, I suppose. Politically?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:56:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Likud-Israel Beiteinu is the "merge" (temporary?) of Netanyahu and Liebermann's parties. The actual membership of Likud is significantly further to the right than it was before.

Habayit Hayehudi: Extreme right national religious.

United Torah Judaism and Shas: Orthodox religious parties, Ashkenazi and Sephardi, respectively. The latter is led by ex-con Aryeh Deri who has been making some vaguely left-wing comments on economics lately.

Yesh Atid: Centrist. Journalist, with no government experience. I assume that he would suffer the fate of all such reform parties in the past, but with the power he now has, this may change.

Labor: Standard "left-wing" party.

Hatenuah. "The movement". Livni's attempt to stay in politics. Slightly to the left of Netanyahu, I suppose.

Meretz: Genuine left-wing party, originally focussed more on civil liberties. Actually opposed the latest Gaza war from the start, unlike in the past.

Hadash (about 4 seats), missing in that list. Communists, only official Jewish-Arab party with Jews in their Knesset list (but mostly Arab voters)

United Arab List-Ta'al and Balad: Arab parties. I'm surprised they retained their strength as Arab turnout seems to have been at an all-time low.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:38:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
One point I forgot to make.The 99% vote counted refers only to the regular ballots. Not counted yet are the absentee votes, which basically means Foreign Service, soldiers, and prisoners. I presume this will reduce the Arab and Orthodox vote, but I've no idea how it might change the other parties.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:40:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Gideon Levy's op-ed in Ha'aretz (not yet translated?):
Israel yesterday said clearly what she wants: She doesn't want anything, just to be left alone.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 03:10:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over
An explosion in extreme wealth and income is exacerbating inequality and hindering the world's ability to tackle poverty, Oxfam warned today in a briefing published ahead of the World Economic Forum in Davos next week.

The $240 billion net income in 2012 of the richest 100 billionaires would be enough to make extreme poverty history four times over, according Oxfam's report `The cost of inequality: how wealth and income extremes hurt us all.'(pdf) It is calling on world leaders to curb today's income extremes and commit to reducing inequality to at least 1990 levels.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:12:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Another way of looking at this is that a 25% global income tax rate on the super rich would eliminate poverty and - if you included the top 1000 instead of the top 100 - probably solve the carbon crisis and any number of other environmental crises.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:48:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"Why do you hate wealth creators/freedom/America?"


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:07:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Why do they hate me?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 09:17:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You're not Top100 or Top1000.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 09:40:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
After French Criticism, Washington Drops Payment Demand - WSJ.com

France is increasingly upset by what it sees as limited Obama administration support for the war it is waging in Mali against al Qaeda militants, including an initial U.S. demand, since dropped, that Paris foot the bill for any Air Force transport flights, French officials said.

After the French went public with their complaints over the weekend, the Pentagon yielded on one of them, saying Sunday night that it would not seek reimbursement from Paris for the flights.

However, the unusually harsh criticism from Paris underscored the longtime U.S. ally's growing frustration with the U.S. commitment to the Mali mission.

The U.S. is providing "invaluable" intelligence-gathering help for the Mali campaign, the French officials said. But the U.S. has yet to decide on whether to agree to France's request for U.S. planes to refuel French fighters in flight, they said. France has a small fleet of aging refueling tankers and says more are needed to maintain the tempo of air operations in remote Mali.

France also has asked the U.S. to send additional manned and unmanned surveillance planes to spy on rebel communications, but the White House so far hasn't responded to that request either.

by Bernard on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:57:10 AM EST
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That will teach them for not supporting the U.S. in Iraq. As for retaliation, how about changing the Place des États-Unis in Paris to Place de la Liberté?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 06:13:44 AM EST
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Ha'aretz
יו"ר ישראל ביתנו אביגדור ליברמן הגיב הערב לתוצאות הבחירות, ואמר כי "אין ספק שיאיר לפיד, עם 19 מנדטים, הוא שותף בכיר ולא זוטר בממשלה". לדברי ליברמן, טבעי שלפיד יתמקד בנושאי פנים ויקבל את תיק האוצר. "אנחנו לא פוסלים אף אחד", הוסיף, "גם המפלגות החרדיות מבינות שיצטרכו להתגמש. כל מי שיסכים עם עקרונות הממשלה החדשה מוזמן להצטרף".
Rough translation
Israel Our Home chairman Avigdor Lieberman responded to the election results, saying "There is no doubt that Lapid, with 19 seats, is a senior partner and not a minor member of the government". According to Lieberman, it is natural that Lieberman will focus on internal matter and will get the Finance Ministry. "We do not rule out anyone", he added, "Even the Haredi parties realize that they will have to be more flexible. Anyone who agrees with the principles of the new government is invited to join"
Why is Lieberman being so nice? One possible explanation is that the Finance Ministry is a poisoned chalice. There's a large budget deficit, which for some reason is taken to mean that they will have to have some austerity - and the Finance Minister will probably take a lot of the blame. Presumably Lapid himself sees the risks, but he may be too politically inexperienced to figure out how to turn down an offer like this.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 02:19:49 PM EST
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LIVING OFF THE PLANET
Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:40:41 PM EST
Mackerel taken off conservationists' 'fish to eat' list | Environment | guardian.co.uk

For years it has been trumpeted as a popular sustainable fish, renowned for its health benefits and favoured by celebrity chefs.

But the UK's biggest marine charity, the Marine Conservation Society (MCS), has removed mackerel from its "fish to eat" list recommending that it should only be consumed occasionally, like monkfish and plaice. The society is advising consumers to eat herrings or sardines instead.

The MCS says international arguments about quotas mean mackerel is no longer a sustainable choice. Overfishing led to the suspension of the north-east Atlantic stock's Marine Stewardship Council certification as a sustainable fishery.

There has been an increasingly bitter three-year dispute between Iceland and the EU - mainly the UK - over who has the right to land the once-plentiful fish.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:19:26 PM EST
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EurActiv: US `shale boost' provokes EU fears and indecision

The development has spurred fear amongst concerned European manufacturers that they will be unable to compete in energy intensive sectors. It is clear that industry such as steelmaking, currently slumping in the EU, is shifting towards the United States after decades of decline.


Nomura analyst Neil Sampat pointed out that steel giant ArcelorMittal has almost no further capital spending planned in Europe for either steel production or iron-ore mining, explaining: "Gradually, the company is changing its geographical exposure to North America from Europe."


Gordon Moffat, the director-general of Eurofer, the European Steel Association, said: "It's quite astonishing the impact that shale has had, I think we're going to see the re-industrialisation of the United States. We're already seeing transfers of production from Europe to the United States: it's already clear in the petrochemical sector. And it's also happening in the steel industry."


Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 03:09:03 AM EST
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Obviously, we need to get into shale gas fast, or once again Europe will be left behind.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:52:46 AM EST
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Four out of five people have not heard of green deal, poll finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Four out of five people have not heard of the UK government's flagship programme to transform the energy efficiency of 14m homes, just days before it launches, according to a YouGov poll.

The "green deal", which starts on Monday, is designed to tackle household energy bills - which have risen sharply in recent months - and carbon emissions from homes, which are responsible for nearly one-third of the UK's emissions. It works by offering loans for works such as the installation of solid wall insulation, new boilers and draught-proofing, with the repayments theoretically being outweighed by energy bill savings. The loan is attached to the property rather than the individual.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 05:50:56 AM EST
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'Suction bucket' lays new foundation for offshore wind | Guardian
A gigantic steel bucket will be lowered upside-down through the deep, murky waters of the North Sea within the next few days, and, through a smart engineering trick, it will sink rapidly into the sandy sediment on the sea floor. Once nestled into place, it will become stuck fast and form a rock-solid foundation for a structure towering far above the waves.

Would love to hear what any engineers have to say about this. Sounds like there's a weakness somewhere, i.e. too good to be true.


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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:21:49 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 07:29:30 AM EST
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Thanks

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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 08:06:23 AM EST
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 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:41:00 PM EST
Let elderly people 'hurry up and die', says Japanese minister | World news | guardian.co.uk

Japan's new government is barely a month old, and already one of its most senior members has insulted tens of millions of voters by suggesting that the elderly are an unnecessary drain on the country's finances.

Taro Aso, the finance minister, said on Monday that the elderly should be allowed to "hurry up and die" to relieve pressure on the state to pay for their medical care.

"Heaven forbid if you are forced to live on when you want to die. I would wake up feeling increasingly bad knowing that [treatment] was all being paid for by the government," he said during a meeting of the national council on social security reforms. "The problem won't be solved unless you let them hurry up and die."



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:18:31 PM EST
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and the master plan for this: bring back the nukes!

genius...

"We can all be prosperous but we can't all be rich." Ian Welsh

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:21:25 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 04:47:05 AM EST
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I would welcome a Soylent Green solution. The euthanasia part, not the people-cracker part.

The good news ... it's only a life sentence. You eventually leave this planet of idiots.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 03:42:37 PM EST
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TweetDeck Twitter app will continue despite Companies House letter | Technology | guardian.co.uk

The British company TweetDeck Ltd, which was bought by Twitter so it could gain control of the multi-column app for viewing the social networking site, will soon cease to exist as an independent entity after Companies House moved to strike it off its register.

But the app itself will continue as part of Twitter itself, which now owns the intellectual property and employs the staff who had been working on the product.

TweetDeck, the company, became one of the iconic names for the regrowth of the UK's technology industry focussed on social media in locations around London's Old Street - an area later dubbed Silicon Roundabout.

The letter from Companies House, first highlighted by Sky News, said the company will be struck off in three months and forcibly dissolved unless it files accounts. Those were due in September.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:20:10 PM EST
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Except that the TweetDeck product sold by Twitter has almost nothing in common with the TweetDeck product sold by TweetDeck. So it won't actually be living on...
by asdf on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:48:11 PM EST
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Never mind the IP. The market share they created will live on. For weeks.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 01:58:50 AM EST
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HK youths marrying later: report - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Young people in Hong Kong are less likely to be married than in the past, reflecting trends towards marriage at later ages or remaining single, according to a 2011 Population Census report published Monday.

The proportion of young people aged 15 to 24 who had never married rose from 96.2 percent in 2001 to 97.9 percent in 2011, while the proportion of married people who were aged 15 to 24 dropped from 3.6 percent in 2001 to 2 percent in 2011, said the report.

At the same time, more young people are attending post-secondary education, with 39.3 percent of the same age group doing so in 2011, compared with 19.5 percent in 2001.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:22:50 PM EST
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more young people are attending post-secondary education

We hope they are not just becoming more 'overqualified' and, especially, not more in debt.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 05:17:34 PM EST
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BBC News - UK suicide rate rises 'significantly' in 2011

The number of people taking their own life in the UK rose "significantly" in 2011, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics have shown.

Some 6,045 people killed themselves in 2011, an increase of 437 since 2010.

The highest suicide rate was among men aged between 30 and 44. About 23 men per 100,000 took their own lives.

On average, across both sexes, 11.8 people per 100,000 population killed themselves in 2011, up from 11.1 people the previous year.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:35:28 PM EST
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High-Level Group on Media Freedom and - Media Task Force | Europa, DG Communications Networks, Content and Technology
The group, which is fully independent, was established in October 2011 by Vice-President Neelie Kroes, and is chaired by the former President of Latvia, Professor Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga. The other members are Professor Herta Däubler-Gmelin, Professor Luís Miguel Poiares Pessoa Maduro and Ben Hammersley. The mandate of the group was to draw up a report for the Commission with recommendations for the respect, protection, support and promotion of pluralism and freedom of the media in Europe. The findings and recommendations of the Group are now public and are available on this page.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 03:37:18 PM EST
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See: "Neelie Kroes on Net neutrality in Europe" in yesterday's salon.
by Bernard on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 04:25:56 PM EST
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New high-speed trains linking Amsterdam and Brussels taken out of service for technical issues - The Washington Post

BRUSSELS -- It was supposed to be the perfect 21st century link between two bustling European capitals. Instead, the new high-speed Fyra line connecting Amsterdam and Brussels turned into the missing link.

One month after the maiden trip, the Italian-built trains have been taken out of service.

Technical problems dogged the sleek new trains -- which can go 250 kph (155 mph) -- almost since the day they came into service Dec. 9. That has repeatedly caused delays between the Dutch and Belgian capitals, some 200 kilometers (125 miles) apart, instead of slashing more than an hour off the regular service the Fyra trains replaced.

by Bernard on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 04:27:04 PM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 01:45:11 PM EST
Michael Winner - Telegraph

In the course of a film career lasting 40 years, he made more than 30 pictures, among which were sharp social comedies such as The System (1963) and The Jokers (1966). But he derived his wealth and lasting reputation from later Hollywood hokum - notably the frenzied and graphically violent Death Wish series.

Preceded by his faux film noir capers such as The Mechanic (1972) and The Stone Killer (1973) -- "all long on gore", as one observer put it, "and short on sense" -- Winner's controversial blockbuster Death Wish (1974), starred Charles Bronson as a middle-class architect on a gory mission of vengeance after street muggers murder his wife and rape his daughter.

Many critics complained that Winner's film exploited American paranoia over rising urban violence. "Michael Winner stacks the deck to make vigilante justice the only recourse against widespread crime," declared one. The public, on the other hand, could scarcely get enough of the action; cinema audiences burst into applause each time a mugger was shot on screen, and even the celebrated American reviewer Judith Crist, admiring its theme of "Aristotelian purgation", confessed to numbering the film among her guilty pleasures.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:36:33 PM EST
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Stan Musial - Telegraph

This was partly a reflection of his character; noted for his modest demeanour and his gentlemanly conduct on the field, Musial was never a glory-hunter. Furthermore, his genius as a batter lay less in explosive power than in his remarkable consistency at the plate.

With the St Louis Cardinals, for whom he played from 1941 to 1963, Musial hit 475 home runs, and won seven batting championships. Baseball is a sport obsessed with statistics, and in his 10,972 "at-bats", he amassed 3,630 "hits" (denoting the times he reached at least first base), the fourth best record in Major League baseball after Pete Rose, Ty Cobb and Hank Aaron. He also "drove in" 1,951 runs (making hits that allowed team-mates to get home), and had a career batting average (hits divided by at-bats) of .331. He struck out only 696 times and averaged .300 or better for 16 consecutive seasons from 1942.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 22nd, 2013 at 02:37:25 PM EST
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"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 08:06:04 AM EST
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<head, desk>

Stuff like this is rooted in the mindset that humans and nature are somehow distinct.  Perpetuating the problems, not solving them.

<insert Colman's YOU'RE ALL BLOODY INSANE TECHNOLOGY macro>

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 23rd, 2013 at 08:16:51 AM EST
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