Welcome to the new version of European Tribune. It's just a new layout, so everything should work as before - please report bugs here.

Tuesday Open Thread

by afew Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 10:29:55 AM EST

Here we go again


Display:
Enriched with nourishing open-thready goodness.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 10:30:43 AM EST
Arguably, fibres are more healthy than threads. For lightweight multitasking with lower overheads.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 10:36:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
with an obscure tech reference.

Well technically, you can't actually kill a thread without bringing down the entire process. Not in Windows.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 12:05:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I really like the new (?) squeeze jars of Marmite: an end to those wispy dark threads that glue themselves to the breadboard or wrap themselves around the Marmite jar neck thread causing opening difficulties. And no more butter gobs in the jar while dipping the knife in for a refill.

Compared to a couple of years ago, my condiments and general sauce tray has a number of standard items that have gone bottom-up in sympathy with our straining, changing society: organic tomato sauce, HP, runny honey, various Indian brand chutneys. No mess, no food waste, prolongs product life.

That doesn't alter the fact that our entire food chain has to be reorganized, and that the packaging issue needs a complete rethink.  

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 01:11:21 PM EST
The fad here is for packaging that allows the product to sit at the bottom and be squeezed out easily. Toothpaste, mustard, ketchup/catsup, mayonnaise, etc.
by asdf on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 01:34:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Exactly! And it's enabled by a fairly simple valve that surely should have been invented by material science at least 10 years ago...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 01:54:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You can tech it up any way you want, but at the end of the day, it's still <shudder> marmite.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 03:34:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
...but there is nothing wrong with the packaging.
by Katrin on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 03:44:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Swedes lead the Way!

According to my informants everything - from soup to caviar - is available in a squeeze tube in Sweden.

Skepticism is the first step on the road to truth. -- Denis Diderot

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 02:08:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
you can eat it with one hand, without taking your gloves off.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 06:08:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Meal in a tube. Huzzah.


-----
sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 04:47:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not talking toothpaste here. (though I am very partial to Kalle's Kaviar)

The 'Squeezy' bottle is stored top down, and there's a valve that doesn't let product out until you squeeze.

12.95 for 400 gms. Order yours today!

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 09:45:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm talking toothpaste.

by asdf on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 01:23:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Does it have the valve?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 01:26:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is a link to an anthropomorphically presented picture of a dog in a chef's hat.

I find it hard to justify my interest* in this kind of low-grade humour, because beyond surrealism I don't have a humour category to pop these good ones into.  

(* to deliberately seek out further examples of the genre other than the ones that are naturally encountered in online social networking)

I can laugh out loud for longer than 5 seconds on a good one of these babies. And that's gold dust, my friends. But it's mighty hard to pin down where the laugh comes from - and I suspect it is highly individual, though my daughters and a a couple of good friends tend to have similar reactions.

A common link would be the dynamic of the picture in tension with the caption, which would include the perceptual expectations created by the visual context: kitchen, simple non-gourmet food preparation, active drawer, cooking not yet started - and the figure, or focus. The hat rams the dog into the context, making it a victim more than a star.

But the real art is in the caption. You can't help yourself. You've already perceived the figure/ground ambiguity (as the Gestalters will have it). You've been loaded and cocked. By the time (a handful of milliseconds) that your eye reaches the text you are ready - but the caption has to create that oscillation between landscapes so that you are forced to reassess your judgement of the salient visual facts.

This can make you laugh. The same process can also make you think - where thinking tries to reconcile accepted ways and new ways. And sometimes comes up with better ways.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 02:42:19 PM EST
Killer cats take down billions of birds, report says - World - CBC News

Cats may kill up to 3.7 billion birds and 20.7 billion mammals in the United States alone each year, a new study has found.

That means predatory felines are likely the leading human-linked cause of death for birds and mammals, surpassing habitat destruction, collisions with structures such as buildings, and pesticide poisoning, reports an article published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications.

Huh. We all know it's windmills.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 03:35:57 PM EST
What about giraffes?
In the wild, giraffes have also been seen to eat weaver-bird nests with young inside, and may chew on bones, perhaps to gain additional minerals.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 06:27:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Huh. Must beat chewing the cud (as they do) with that long neck.


-----
sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 06:28:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Eschaton: Hey Business, Why Don't You Help!!!
We are ruled by stupid horrible people.

Last week's appalling jobless data - showing 60% of young Spanish people out of work - even sent alarm bells ringing at Davos last week, with Angela Merkel calling for help from businesses to reverse the trend.

Businesses can't help because people have no money to buy stuff because they have no jobs. by Atrios at<abbr> 09:50
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 at 04:10:02 PM EST
It is pathetic that so many of those involved have had at least one, and for many several, economics courses at university and still cannot figure out that, when the bulk of your population is severely squeezed and half of the youth is unemployed, the economy is going to tank. They just cannot accept that trying to force the bottom 99% of the population to pay for bogus debt accrued by means that, if any had the will to look, are certainly fraudulent, will destroy the ability of those economies to pay for anything. If they want the wealthy malefactors to be paid, just print the money and give it to them. But NO! Rather than do THAT, or to accept that these debts CANNOT BE PAID by the citizens as a whole, given the realities of the economy, and just force the bogus debt holders to write off their debts, they insist on smothering everyone, apparently out of spite. Either that or they are indulging in mass magical thinking worthy of some of the most benighted times and situations in our collective histories, or some combination of the two.</rant>

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 03:43:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, hello, hello. I think I'm back. Been offline for a couple of days, which has been like having a limb taken away.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 05:09:23 AM EST
Was wondering what was ailing you...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 05:49:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BT decided my internet service was surplus to their requirements

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 06:57:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 07:42:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
So, I notice some social-networking integration buttons at the top of the thread.  They don't seem that useful in that spot - what on Earth is one saying, if one "Likes" a whole thread here at ET?  It's missing the point.  More useful would be likes for individual comments.  That's probably hard and system-resource-intensive, though.

On another topic entirely, I've been reading up on the history of railroading in the US, and the transcontinentals in particular.  Fascinating.  When I finish the book I just started (the second one, but the first was 750 BIG pages, so it does seem like a lot), I may put up a diary here.  A lot of interesting insight onto "modern" phenomenon like PPP's from those early days.  

by Zwackus on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 08:26:40 AM EST
Also political side effects like the California and Colorado state constitutions, written to allow populists to fight the railroad-controlled establishment.
by asdf on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 at 01:33:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Display:
Go to: [ European Tribune Homepage : Top of page : Top of comments ]