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Open Thread 13 - 26 Nov

by Bjinse Tue Nov 14th, 2017 at 08:15:09 PM EST

That thread which has drawn from every poet worthy of being read some attempt at description, or some lines of feeling

I have now reached the point where I may indicate briefly what to me constitutes the essence of the crisis of our time. It concerns the relationship of the individual to society. The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not experience this dependence as a positive asset, as an organic tie, as a protective force, but rather as a threat to his natural rights, or even to his economic existence. Moreover, his position in society is such that the egotistical drives of his make-up are constantly being accentuated, while his social drives, which are by nature weaker, progressively deteriorate. All human beings, whatever their position in society, are suffering from this process of deterioration. Unknowingly prisoners of their own egotism, they feel insecure, lonely, and deprived of the naive, simple, and unsophisticated enjoyment of life. Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society.

Needs Moahr AI

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 17th, 2017 at 02:47:58 AM EST
Those who use Firefox as browser, I can recommend upgrading to their latest update, Firefox quantum. It is, as advertised, much faster than the previous edition. Whether the new haul-over could do anything to revive the (by me sorely missed) Tribext add-on, I've no notion of that - never been tech savvy enough to figure it out...
by Bjinse on Mon Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:06:59 PM EST
I upgraded. It exploits many Chrome UI and parallel processing features (which is a huge improvement of prior versions) and still isn't compatible with Skype client. I'm not persuaded that it's "30% lighter" than Chrome, as advertised. I can see in Task Manager that it's still a memory hog.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 12:24:20 AM EST
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Since losing Tribex blogging at ET feels one handed.
Need another code monkey, stat.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 02:44:31 AM EST
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does it automatically upgrade. I had a major change a couple of days ago and it looks and feels different

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 09:14:36 AM EST
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Is anyone using the FF upgrade on a Mac? I would assume differences depending on what system is used, windows, Linux et. al., Mac OS...

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:21:49 AM EST
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How to Disable Pocket in Firefox 57

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 04:13:57 PM EST
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by generic on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 03:28:24 PM EST
I'm thinking, "There's a pair of cub Citizen Reporters! They need to climb the goal post of EGREGIOUS, ASAP. They're living in 2017 not 1967!"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 08:32:14 PM EST
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The Atlantic - Adam Serwer - The Nationalist's  Delusion

THIRTY YEARS AGO, nearly half of Louisiana voted for a Klansman, and the media struggled to explain why.

It was 1990 and David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, astonished political observers when he came within striking distance of defeating incumbent Democratic U.S. Senator J. Bennett Johnston, earning 43 percent of the vote. If Johnston's Republican rival hadn't dropped out of the race and endorsed him at the last minute, the outcome might have been different.

Was it economic anxiety? The Washington Post reported that the state had "a large working class that has suffered through a long recession." Was it a blow against the state's hated political establishment? An editorial from United Press International explained, "Louisianans showed the nation by voting for Duke that they were mad as hell and not going to take it any more." Was it anti-Washington rage? A Loyola University pollster argued, "There were the voters who liked Duke, those who hated J. Bennett Johnston, and those who just wanted to send a message to Washington.

"What message would those voters have been trying to send by putting a Klansman into office?

"There's definitely a message bigger than Louisiana here," Susan Howell, then the director of the Survey Research Center at the University of New Orleans, told the Los Angeles Times. "There is a tremendous amount of anger and frustration among working-class whites, particularly where there is an economic downturn. These people feel left out; they feel government is not responsive to them."

A very good examination of the racism that led to Trump

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 07:37:55 PM EST
If so, how could Americans, the vast majority of whom say they oppose racism, back a racist candidate?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 08:37:18 PM EST
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the article does a good job on teasing out the strands of that very conundrum

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 09:34:47 PM EST
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Let's say Duke has been the nation's ideal sacrificial goat for thirty years, an anathema to equal protection and opportunity for all that the "majority of Americans" haven't actually said they affirm.

What will remain of US apartheid and racist institutions like the US Census Bureau once the columnists and public intellectuals have completely, definitively dismembered and rendered the fat of Duke's delusions?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:50:30 PM EST
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I shall demonstrate why the goat is an ineffectual examination of and remedy for racism in the USA.

CNN producers picked this guy to lede the segment precisely because he personifies triumph, the trials, tribulations, and aspirations of Americans who say they oppose racism yet profit  from its discriminatory scaffolding. He's not there to refute that belief but to affirm every paradoxical measure of income and wealth distribution, deprivation and danger that describe men "like" him, not Duke.

If average black family wealth continues to grow at the same pace it has over the past three decades, it would take black families 228 years to amass the same amount of wealth white families have today.

Racism is practically unrecognizable in the USA. Periodic assays on notorious figures isolate persisting neglect of it.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Nov 22nd, 2017 at 12:02:32 AM EST
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"Economic suffering alone does not explain the rise of Trump."

"The argument for the innocence of Trump's backers finds purchase across ideological lines: white Democrats looking for votes from working-class whites, white Republicans who want to tar Democrats as elitists, white leftists who fear that identity politics stifles working-class solidarity, and white Trumpists seeking to weaponize white grievances. But the impetus here is not just ideological, but personal and commercial. No one wants to think of his family, friends, lovers, or colleagues as racist. And no one wants to alienate potential subscribers, listeners, viewers, or fans, either."

The thing that annoys me is the insistence on looking at it as either/or in the first quote and in the second quote ignore the ongoing faction fight in the Democratic party where the last primary and the reasons Clinton lost the general election are areas of intense disagreement. So the writer leaves out that the Clinton faction has every reason to explain the election in terms of racism, because then there's no point in turning left, and every mention of needing to win white working class voters means racist policies.

The writer writes himself into this Clinton wing argument by selecting data. For example, he claims repeatedly that Trump still has same support, while Trump's approval rating has slumped down to the same 30%-something levels as those that actually liked him in the exit polls. Thereby neatly ignoring the voters that has lost confidence in Trump since the election, which is necessary for the all racism argument.

I think the reasonable starting point would be to start with racism, economics, voter suppression and the campaigns and see how much each contributed. But that is unlikely to happen when there is an ongoing faction fight.

by fjallstrom on Wed Nov 22nd, 2017 at 12:23:33 PM EST
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Der Postillon
"Wir wären gezwungen, unsere Grundsätze aufzugeben" - mit diesen Worten begründete Christian Lindner den Abbruch der Jamaika-Sondierungsgespräche zwischen CDU, CSU, FDP und Grünen. Einer aktuellen Umfrage des Meinungsforschungsinstituts Opinion Control zufolge zeigt sich die überwältigende Mehrheit (97,6 Prozent) der Deutschen überrascht, dass die FDP angeblich Prinzipien hat.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2017 at 04:27:58 PM EST
A hated tax but a fair one - The Economist

NO TAX is popular. But one attracts particular venom. Inheritance tax is routinely seen as the least fair by Britons and Americans. This hostility spans income brackets. Indeed, surveys suggest that opposition to inheritance and estate taxes (one levied on heirs and the other on legacies) is even stronger among the poor than the rich.

Politicians know a vote-winner when they see one. The estate of a dead adult American is 95% less likely to face tax now than in the 1960s. And Republicans want to go all the way: the House of Representatives has passed a tax-reform plan that would completely abolish "death taxes" by 2025. For a time before the second world war, Britons were more likely to pay death duties than income tax; today less than 5% of estates catch the taxman's eye. It is not just Anglo-Saxons. Revenue from these taxes in OECD countries, as a share of total government revenue, has fallen sharply since the 1960s (see article). Many other countries have gone down the same path. In 2004 even the egalitarian Swedes decided that their inheritance tax should be abolished.

Yet this trend towards trifling or zero estate taxes ought to give pause. Such levies pit two vital liberal principles against each other. One is that governments should leave people to dispose of their wealth as they see fit. The other is that a permanent, hereditary elite makes a society unhealthy and unfair. How to choose between them?

by Bjinse on Thu Nov 23rd, 2017 at 08:48:56 PM EST
I don't know how it works in the US, but the level for it kicking in seems set deliberately low in order to build up middle class resentment.

It wouldn't make much difference if it was a little bit progressive, but I and most people could live with it being set at twice the price of the normal family house in an epensive part of London. Instead of £1 million, which includes a lot of houses, it could be £2 or 2.5 million.

that'd shut the Daily Mail up. but they'd never do that cos that's not the point.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 23rd, 2017 at 10:35:39 PM EST
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Amount greater than $5.45 million is taxable.
Valuation includes all probate assets not just real estate.
The issue is a dead letter to 90% of households in the US

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Nov 23rd, 2017 at 11:33:30 PM EST
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"One is that governments should leave people to dispose of their wealth as they see fit. The other is that a permanent, hereditary elite makes a society unhealthy and unfair. How to choose between them?"

There is no contradiction.
As I keep pointing out to people who refuse any inheritance tax, if you die with a significant estate, you have declared by your actions that you did not intend to give any of your wealth.
Giving implies no longer having. Otherwise it is not giving at all. So the deceased had intended to keep the wealth to himself.

Which is fine. But once he has died, then there is no-one who presently wants to dispose of the wealth. Why should we prioritise the (often unstated) intentions of a dead person over the needs of living?

I am all for pre-emption rights for the family, as they probably value many items more than anyone else and thus this would have a win-win element to it. But I still don't understand by which logic ownership should be automatically passed on. I am not my parents, and our children are not us.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 11:29:22 AM EST
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Black Friday seems to be spreading like a plague over the entire world. Ha'aretz is sending me emails about a "Black Friday sale". The English make it worse by adding bad puns ("Blackwell Friday"). The only people who have some sense are the Italians, where Cgil and other unions in Piacenza are planning to make it into a truly black Friday for Amazon by going on strike.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Nov 23rd, 2017 at 09:06:39 PM EST
Retailers in the USA have colluded, so to speak, to regulate price discounting, competition. "Black Friday" is the most successful and long-lived date. e-Marketers added "Cyber Monday", 2005. AMZN introduced a proprietary, mid-year "Prime Day", 2015, which is something of a harbinger of the advantage of operating scope to volume sales as negative trend and weakness of tactical demand creation accumulate over all. Conspicuous deep discounting has faded. Efforts to replicate past magnitude of revenue gain in foreign markets --where there's little consumer conditioning or perceived PPP savings-- indicates to me a bit of desperation with US consumer "performance".

That said, the Republica news is amusing, because quoted AMZN spokesperson repeats exactly AMZN response ( through floor managers) when IBEW attempted to organize the Bal'more center back in '15. Collective bargaining is not the AMZN way! (Individualized threats and harassment are!) IBEW didn't even get past parking lot leafletting, so efficient is employee churn and private security patrol.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:53:11 AM EST
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Jeff Bezos Becomes 2nd Man In History To Amass 12-Figure Fortune
Bezos's fortune rose $32.6 billion this year through Thursday
He could be making some 10 billion more in these few days. Eat out your heart, Kim Jong-un!
by das monde on Sat Nov 25th, 2017 at 09:48:58 AM EST
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I hope this note finds you in good health and spirits. As it happens, we --generic, you, and I-- are not alone with our skepticism, or dissenting opinions, regarding the beneficial utility of "a typical organizational form of modern capitalism".

Harry Glasbeek on the Corporation as Criminal

Your book focuses on limited liability for shareholders. Are you advocating for getting rid of limited liability for shareholders?

"It's a necessary first step. I'm a lawyer. Law has lost its integrity when it comes to corporations. In the corporate sphere, we make responsibility disappear. And the primary tool is through limited liability for shareholders. We should tackle it head on. There is no good reason to grant shareholders limited liability.

"We should say to shareholders - you should be responsible, just like anybody on the street is responsible for their actions. That would be a vast improvement."

You also make a distinction between controlling shareholders and regular shareholders. You want to expose not just controlling shareholders to the risk, but all shareholders?

Bezos didn't "make" those billions by his lonesome.

archived: The Disruptors -

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Nov 25th, 2017 at 05:30:23 PM EST
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It seems we need a constitutional amendment specifying that a US citizen must be a biological human being and specifying that corporations cannot inherently enjoy ANY of the rights bestowed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Corporations are legal monsters. They are potentially immortal, have limited liability, and have been ruled by a suborned judiciary to have all of the rights of citizens.

No biological human is immortal, so why should we create 'fictitious legal entities' that potentially are? Immortality and unlimited potential size are two of the great advantages of corporations and by themselves are sufficient reason to ban corporations. Corporations are created by the authority of states and can be destroyed by the same authority - if non-corporate human citizens can again regain control of government.

Limited liability, especially, is a failed concept. No biological human can limit their liability except by the artificial contrivance of a corporate body. And only those with some means can afford to do that. Let businessmen do all business under their name or their name and the names of their partners, all of equal liability - jointly and severally.

Nor should corporations have rights of free speech. As they are not people their speech can only be corporate. Nor should corporations have the power to participate in politics - only the individual citizens composing those corporations and residing in the country should have that right.  And all political contributions need to be made by individual human citizens. If you are not a citizen you have no right to contribute.

A constitutional amendment is a difficult thing to bring about, but we, as a nation, have an open artery and the viability of our polity is rapidly draining out into the hands of the wealthy few. Individual citizens are being bled dry and along with them the polity as we have known it. The prime function of our existing financial system is now extracting the remaining wealth from US citizens and residents and putting it into the hands of un-acountable, transnational corporations.

Corporations have been the the chief instruments of our despoliation. It is time to destroy them. We worry about robots usurping our humanity while corporations already have. For >150 years humans have clearly demonstrated their inability to control corporations for the public good. Corporations chiefly benefit elites.

We may find reason to allow corporate type organizations for governmental entities such as cities and counties, non-profit organizations such as colleges and universities, etc., but it must be clear that they exist at the sufferance of the public and for service to the public. Corporations, after all, evolved from Royal charters - historically for cities and universities. It was later that this form of organization was utilized as a framework for privately owned businesses.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 06:21:33 AM EST
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So ET should be closed down? It is only possible to hose a site like this because limited liability means the liability  risk - for libel fo instance -  is limited to the hosting business.

That the US has given corporations excessive rights and mandated them to be evil doesn't mean that the whole thing needs to be flushed.

Limited liability costs a few hundred a year in the jurisdictions U.K. familiar with.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 04:16:04 PM EST
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hose -> host
U.K. -> I am

I have no idea what autocorrect was trying to say there.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 04:52:33 PM EST
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A confused version of Descartes? I don't think, therefore I am?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 07:42:54 PM EST
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I certainly do not want ET closed down; it would fall into the category of public interest non-profits. But for profit enterprises, especially above some minimum size need to have their privileges greatly limited. And I don't think the problem is limited to the USA. I also think all corporations need to be limited to operation within a given nation. Some provision could be made to allow for subsidiaries in other countries, but the transactions between subsidiaries and the parent have to be transparent and subject to government supervision.

I know these are drastic measures, but the problems that need addressing are equally drastic. Corporate culture and current modes of operation are at the heart of almost all the most intractable problems we face. To move forward we have to address the issues that stem from the privileges that first permit and then require the corporate practices that give corporations their vastly disproportionate power. Individual, non-corporate citizens must be enabled to have their needs and interests addressed also and that is not happening now to any significant extent. We have to find a way.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Nov 27th, 2017 at 02:18:43 AM EST
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Any chance that these arguments would be agreeable to Ayan Rand fans and such? They would be more vocal then us.
by das monde on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:46:07 PM EST
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Amazon warehouse life 'revealed with timed toilet breaks and workers sleeping on their feet'

Staff reportedly face targets of processing 300 packages an hour during the exhausting work day

by das monde on Tue Nov 28th, 2017 at 01:11:42 AM EST
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There are many paths to involuntary separation from AMZN.

Exceeding the unknown (unwritten, not posted, never stipulated) limit of permissable time off task (TOT) per hour, per shift, or per week (depending on "business needs" but regardless of personal equipment failure, system failure, and other operations SNAFUs** one may attempt to report to managers, typically by foot as the one radio stationed in a corner of each floor are poorly maintained) is one. Rumor has it, time on task is defined as seconds/unit scanned X required num units scanned/hr ("rate") during a 9 hr shift*. TOT is expected - actual.

Excessive TOT is cause for "write up" (disciplinary action) which is never written; verification may be offered by manager in the form of infographic representing one's "rate" displayed on his or her laptop. The verbal notification starts a 30 day probation period and life of each write up. Additional write ups compound probation period length and risk of dismissal. The third write up in the period is cause for immediate dismissal.


*In the USA, clock runs on punches (ID card scan). Shift In/Out and 1/2 lunch In/Out. 15 minute breaks/4 hr are paid time. Tardy punch docks wage; tardy scan In/Out from break flags TOT.
**2016 DNS attack across N.A. hit AMZN too, quiet as that was kept. Screwed everyone's "rates" for the day, but spontaneous agitation forced management to void performance records. Otherwise, a typical SNAFU is Kiva pod crashes; these shut down all mechanical and sys ops on a floor.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Dec 2nd, 2017 at 04:02:06 AM EST
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I feek none but
have enjoyed for two years reading business press parrots AMZN PR or guesses how AMZN operates fulfillment centers in the USA. AMZN rigorously enforces trade secrets the minute anyone, including employees, enters the premises. P&E of facilities are not identical. And, as I mentioned, managment hard copies nothing employees can carry out of the plant. Nothing but their aching limbs.

Moreover, sys ops permissions are strictly allocated by hierarchy so a vanishing few number per site have unified, cross-functional knowledge of or access to ops data. Many managers can't explain policy directions (eg. "rate" and headcount ratcheting, mandatory OT, GEMBA goal-seek) from HQ (yes, from Seattle, daily and periodically within 24hr) even if they wanted to. Which they don't, because privilege.

The AMZN way is Agile ® "project management" on B.F. Skinner steroids. Inappropriate but feasible, as surplus labor obviates continuity planning and labor negotiation.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Dec 2nd, 2017 at 04:50:33 AM EST
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Press not cooperating to promote "marketing ploy"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 04:26:00 PM EST
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Black Friday draws early shoppers in US, but real frenzy is online

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 06:48:01 PM EST
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Revenue warns consumers to be cautious ahead of Black Friday

Waiting on Singles Day invite?

Black Friday a 'balancing act' for Australian retailers

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 07:04:00 PM EST
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  • MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT returns without the tapes
  • "Black Friday" sale extended to MONDAY
  • Advertiser's identity anonymized by HTML HOT! link

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 08:16:21 PM EST
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Black Friday, Thanksgiving online sales climb to record high
U.S. retailers raked in a record $7.9 billion in online sales on Black Friday and Thanksgiving, up 17.9 percent from a year ago, according to Adobe Analytics, which measures transactions at the largest 100 U.S. web retailers, on Saturday.

yes, that Adobe. The corporation that made single-seat, perpetual license obsolete. The one that invented "lingo." The one that now rents software use by the month.
Adobe Introduces Analytics for Retailers 27 Sep 2017
Today, to address the challenges that come with launching an analytics strategy, today Adobe Analytics Cloud is unveiling powerful workspaces designed for retail brands. Building on Analysis Workspace -- the easy-to-use data discovery and analysis tool within Adobe Analytics -- retail brands can discover meaningful insights easier than ever before with pre-built templates. Aimed at helping retailers guide the full customer journey, and better understand purchasing patterns, these interactive product and merchandising templates are a one-stop shop for retailers. Powered by Adobe Sensei [!], Adobe's artificial intelligence and machine learning framework, these new templates are built with Anomaly Detection [!] and Contribution Analysis [!] to get real-time access to conversion rates, merchandising, product performance, and product finding methods, among other insights.

Bezos isn't the only problem child.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 09:43:46 PM EST
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re: "the full customer journey" through the funnel.

The Ultimate Dictionary of Marketing Terms You Should Know (English edition)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 09:49:14 PM EST
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by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 06:59:30 AM EST
NYT (where else?)
I never thought I'd live long enough to write this sentence: The most significant reform process underway anywhere in the Middle East today is in Saudi Arabia. Yes, you read that right. Though I came here at the start of Saudi winter, I found the country going through its own Arab Spring, Saudi style.

Unlike the other Arab Springs -- all of which emerged bottom up and failed miserably, except in Tunisia -- this one is led from the top down by the country's 32-year-old crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, and, if it succeeds, it will not only change the character of Saudi Arabia but the tone and tenor of Islam across the globe. Only a fool would predict its success -- but only a fool would not root for it.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 03:01:50 PM EST
To be fair and scientific, there are herds of mustaches in Saudi Arabia.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Ana´s Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Nov 24th, 2017 at 05:24:17 PM EST
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6 months and they'll turn a corner and all the dunes will be flat

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:17:20 PM EST
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Slavoj Zizek
Alt-right Trump supporters and left-wing Bernie Sanders fans should join together to defeat capitalism

by generic on Mon Nov 27th, 2017 at 02:09:03 PM EST

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