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AGE poll

by Alex in Toulouse Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 11:50:50 AM EST

Ok, this may be self-serving, may even already have been done, but I think it would be interesting to know how age groups are represented on ET ... don't you think?

So here's a poll.


Just round off at nearest year as pleases you best.

Poll
How old be ya?
. <20 5%
. 20-26 13%
. 27-33 18%
. 34-40 18%
. 41-47 7%
. 48-54 18%
. 55-61 11%
. 62-68 3%
. 69-75 1%
. >75 0%

Votes: 79
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I think the "under 25" group (ps: not an actual option in poll) is under-represented.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 11:53:28 AM EST
Don't you know, you need a PhD to write here, which is rare when you're under 25... (haha got mine when I was 24 - but ten years ago, when I was still smart and capable of actual work)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 12:28:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
slightly astray from the topic, but what does a PhD correspond to ?
Two of my friends studied 2 years at`the university after they graduated from college, but the topics of the studies had little to do with their college grade. I studied art history for 3 years while at business administration college, can I add it up so that I have a PhD in art history on my resume?
Just out of curiosity, Jerome, what's your PhD in ?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:05:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I gather you're asking in comparison to French diplomas?

In that case a PhD is equivalent to a French Doctorat, unless I'm mistaken.

I think an MBA is like a French Mastère, but I have no idea what a French DEA or French DESS is equivalent to.

by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:11:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And so basically for a Doctorat you need a thesis (une thèse), which then means you need an official body to finance & recognize it.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:14:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
So a DEA is not tantamount to a PhD, right ? Interesting...
Thank you Alex, as always, for your enlightening me. if you didn't exist ... you know, that French saying.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:38:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
My PhD's in economics.

As Alex explains above, a doctorate is a well defined diploma, with equivalents in most countries, which recognises actual research work concluded by a thesis presented (in public) in front of a jury.

In some disciplines and some countries, you can have 2 doctorates. One which recognises that firwt work of research, and gives you the title of doctor, and an additional step which gives you the title of professor.

(I hope this is still correct - maybe eurotribbers still in academia can provide additional comments, be more precise  or correct me altogether)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:43:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In some disciplines and some countries, you can have 2 doctorates. One which recognises that firwt work of research, and gives you the title of doctor, and an additional step which gives you the title of professor.

Germany and Poland have the two step system with a doctorate and a habilitation with the latter necessary to get faculty status (dozent, not just professor).  The US just uses the doctorate (Ph.D). Judging from what I've seen, the US Ph.D is more rigorous than a Polish or German doctorate, something I imagine is a natural result of one step vs. two step.

You got you're Ph.D at 24!? Christ, I really need to sepnd less time on blogs and more on breaking through my current writer's block and finally finish my damn diss.

by MarekNYC on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:58:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's our Jerome, never missing an opportunity to point out how you stand out. We already know...
Shall I start saying that I got my A levels before the age of 16 and graduated from college before the age of 22 ? No, that would be bragging.
What is your trick ; you brag and everyone likes you... ;-)
That was a gentle snark.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:41:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What makes you think that everybody likes me?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:45:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I heard you almost needed bodyguards at the YK convention :)
well, I don't like you, if you need an exception to confirm the general rule. But you already know that...

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:48:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Who is that 20-26 years old greenhorn?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:44:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, who is that? Shall we pick on him? (I'm being jestful, don't hit me, ouch ouch)
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:46:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, s/he may kick our midday-sleepy old asses if we try, but what about an initiation rite?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:14:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Aha, I was going to propose the same thing, isn't it wonderful how brains of a same age think alike :))
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:19:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It seems we now have two candidates for initiation!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:59:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe we could force them to read some of our worse diaries.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:08:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hey now.

You guys better start playing nice to the younger set, or I'll hide your heart meds, and Jerome's Viagra. HA! HA! HA!

Seriously, Jerome if your erection lasts more than 4 hours you may be suffering from Priapism, a serious medical condtion for which you should seek immediate medical treatment.

I'm just saying since your writing has got so interesting.... yes that's the word I'm looking for.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:08:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The other one must be Drew... Both him and MfM are known to be about to start their graduate study, which caps their age at 23 or so assuming no delays...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:11:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah! That must be it!

Prepare the feathers and the pitch!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:17:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wait a minute, I'll go and get the video camera.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:20:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I thought Sirocco was in his early 20's also.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:24:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
25.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the 5 year program.

In the game of life, there's no special prize for making it to the finish line first.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:23:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What does this

have to do with anything?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:25:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Jesus Christ, Migeru.

You, too?

This same for you as Jerome if it doesn't go down after 4 hours you need to see a doctor.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:28:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wow, you recall fond memories!

Do you have the one that goes in circles, too?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:31:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I just stole that one from wikipedia... I haven't played in ages...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:33:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is that a Glider Gun in your pocket or are you just glad to be young and ... vibrant?


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 09:24:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the game of life, there's no special prize for making it to the finish line first.

You said it kiddo, that's why we'd like to go backwards!

Speaking of which, your first task in the rite is: recite the full name of the President of Venezuela backwards! (With accents!)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:40:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes.  I've been wondering all day how to respond to that...  Think it is just best if I don't.

But seriously, you all need to read this.  Disturbing.  But funny.  Funny, in a "Oh my God Jerome's a closet cheesy romance writer!" way.  

If you all read anything today, read this.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:29:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You know, not being a kossack (just having been pointed to this post earlier the day), I didn't knew when that convention is planned... I was rather shocked until I read the comments...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:33:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wha...??  I don't know what to say.  I'm so confused.  I just think it's a cryin' shame how Jerome is going to have to cancel his trip now.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:48:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's what I said. I must be seriously lacking sense of humour.
Well, Jerome, did you have your wife read the DKos thread. If not, you had better do it now before she finds out that you actually can have erections without Viagra. OK, that was a bad joke, but just trying to adjust myself to the mood.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:19:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thank you MfM, I wouldn't have seen the DKos post had it not been for you.
I know I am going to sound prudish to you guys, but i am not sure how to react. If I were Jerome's wife -I guess she has been gifted with more sense of humour than yours truly- I would be really crossed, no matter the bottom page disclaimer.
Perhaps I'm too young and idealistic... However, I'd say it's wiser, as a general rule, not to give a hint that you may have had an affair, no matter how hypothetical all this is. Am I that wrong ?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:15:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Considering that his story takes place in the future, I don't yet think we can accuse him of having an affair.  Perhaps impure thoughts, yes, but don't we all?  Seems healthier to express them in the form of fiction writing (however crummy) that to act on them.  IMO.  

I can't say how I'd feel if my boyfriend had written such a thing.  I'm sure I would be upset.  But I suppose it all depends on the maturity and the ... arrangement of your relationship.  

I think Jerome's biggest transgression here is awful romance writing.  And a pathetic attempt to frame it all in the name of expecting honesty from our leaders.  Hello, does the name Bill Clinton mean anything to you?  Democrats in America still love that man.  So I guess the moral is: I judge my President by how well he runs the country and my French economist energy guru blog honcho on how well he ... does French economist energy guru blog honcho things. :)

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:04:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I suppose writing cheesy, touchy-feely (sorry, didn't find that diary all that warm and fuzzy, as others have called it) romantic prose is a french-economist energy-guru blog-honcho thing, then.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:08:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Both of you are right, Poemless and Migeru. Well, our economist guru's acting out seems to have produced a lot of publicity, which is by all means good for ET, nobody will argue.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:22:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ouch!

"crummy", "awful"?! At least I know that's honest feedback!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:21:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, I am back to my French economist energy guru blog honcho things:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/29/16264/7830
Putting a Republican President in the WH is bad for jobs

I am not crossposting here.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:50:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We're represented.  I'm under 25.  I'm stunned that Jerome earned his PhD at 24.  That's almost unheard of, at least in America.  26 or so is usually the going age, depending on if you do a Master's first.  I think the programs are a bit different in Europe, though.  (You're all smarter than we Americans, anyway -- not that that's saying much. :)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 30th, 2006 at 12:26:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
How do you vote if you're born again?


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 12:03:32 PM EST
hehehe
I guess you'd have to ask God?
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 12:13:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
If you're a born again atheist?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:04:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Since I told him/her/it I didn't believe he/she/it exists, he/she/it doesn't answer my calls: always the answering machine...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:17:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
or the person thanks to whom you were reborn ...

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 03:56:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Simple, it makes you eternal.
by gradinski chai on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:14:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Presumably you'd choose to vote either for the time since you were 'reborn', or both for that and your 'original' age!
by canberra boy (canberraboy1 at gmail dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 07:57:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
By the way, if anyone has any complaints about the age groups I chose, I thought it would be nice to change from the traditional 10-year gaps used everywhere. So 7 year gaps it is ... If I had had the possibility to write 20 answers, I could have used alternating 3 and 4 year gaps (and not 5 year, as the extremities are kind of unnecessary, as I doubt any 10 year olds or 95 year olds are around here, but then again that's maybe a wrong assumption I'm making about the 95 group ... after all my grandfather, who's 90, has a PC and surfs the net too!!).
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 12:36:11 PM EST
Heh.  This actually surprised me.  I opened it up expecting to read about some poll by a group called A.G.E....
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:27:22 PM EST
The Association General of Extremists?

You're not supposed to know about them. We, ahem, They certainly don't let polls about them into the general sphere of discourse.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:50:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
But I know the secret handshake!  Can I vote?
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:09:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Would you ask if you really knew?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:15:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bah, it's only an EAC front...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:10:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
As opposed to those of even greater years, the Association of Grumpy Extremists

Eats cheroots and leaves.
by NeutralObserver on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:28:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Heh, Alex, looks like this really bothered you ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:10:00 PM EST
By the way, afew, you must have been a Maoist or something in your twenties...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:16:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
He would have been leaning so far to the left that to this day he doesn't walk straight.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:21:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah :-)

Correcting myself: afew must have been someone so far to the Left that a two-man break-off of a small splinter of a spinoff of the British SWP called him "SPLITTER!"

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:28:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I was never either Trot (though SWP friends did their best to get me in, no way), nor Maoist, though I knew (still do, for some of them), former Maoists from the Gauche Prolétarienne. I was anti-Soviet and all their works. Not a believer in Marxist revolutionary theory, then or now.

So I was Groucho tendency, dear friends, alternative, counter-culture. I said "Right on!" and "Power to the people!", then I turned the volume up on Jimi Hendrix or Dylan, the Doors, the Stones, the Dead, above all Lennon, took a hit off a J and settled into reading Mr Natch*. Evolution, not revolution. It was easy to believe in for a few years back then.

Beneath it all, I was a kind of social democrat with a radical insistence on equity, solidarity, education, and social/cultural tolerance. I don't think I've changed all that much from that point of view.

* Here's a very on-topic take from Robert Crumb's Mr Natural (the guy with the beard, for those who are unfamiliar.)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:27:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Beneath it all, I was a kind of social democrat with a radical insistence on equity, solidarity, education, and social/cultural tolerance. I don't think I've changed all that much from that point of view.

Hmm, I would say I've been the same way, except that I was in that lonely (cough) little glitch of a generation that came after Hendrix and Lennon.  And, well, we were sort of pissed off, if I'm being honest...

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Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:49:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Must be something in the Leicester water...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:08:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What was great then (apart from the sexual liberation...) is that you could at the same time be a Maoist (GP or VLR) and listen to Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Lennon, the Doors, the Stones, the Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Zappa, Albert Ayler, Archie Shepp and the Art Esemble of Chicago while smoking forbidden plants and swallowing strange stuffs... and, of course, the sexual liberation...

 

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 03:27:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Brother!!!

My life changed course in 1967, right around when Hendrix and St. Peppers came out...and have been on the wrong path since...and proudly so!! (My mother was always convinced it was because i quit playing baseball!)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Mon Jan 30th, 2006 at 04:34:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ok this poll is 2.5 hours old, and already it seems that ET is going to have to launch marketing schemes to appeal to the <=26 and the >=62 crowds.

Maybe we could give out free ET little bunny mascots for the <=26, and equivalent professor with messy white hair mascots for the >=62 group. (ouch ouch don't hit me, please I'm only saying these ridiculous things because I can say them).

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:31:21 PM EST
A bimodal distribution, how interesting...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:32:26 PM EST
Yeah, we're going to have to do something about that 41-47 group too. How about a hawaian-shirt mascot?
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:34:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No, the point is to explain that feature...

The 30-year-olds I understand: we're the microcomputer (Amiga, Spectrum, Commodore, Amstrad) generation. Who are the 50-year-olds? Those who studied computer science in the 1970's?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 03:41:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
LOL!

Yes, University of Essex 1971-74

Eats cheroots and leaves.

by NeutralObserver on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 04:35:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Heh. There are some 50-yr-olds who were part of that generation too... Why explain it in terms of technology? You don't need much hi-tech cool stuff to get on the internet anyway...

I'd explain it more politically as a bulge of baby-boomers (some of whom have not become right-wing dodderers or bo-bo fakes), and your generation which grew up under the pressure of the corporate-financial-capitalism roll-out from the late '70s on, and has sharper political senses as a result. Between the two (no offence meant to those concerned) there may be a generation that is less interested.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:38:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Between the two come the 80's youths, who evolved in the golden era of the yuppee and of financial individualism, and who as a result are less inclined to be radical, methinks.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:29:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Uh sorry that would be yuppie, not yuppee.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:33:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That's what I was thinking, but Izzy above points us to the punks. I thought punks were great. But it was a final fling...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:04:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Depends where you come from, I never saw a yuppie in the eighties, except on TV, and there was that little matter  of the miners strike for our friends in the North... :)
by Samir on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:37:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You're right, Sam. But, while the miners were getting shafted (I know, I know, terrible pun for at least a couple of reasons) I recall seeing large numbers of what were called "golden boys" who worked in Thatcher's wonderful new financial-services economy and who got lager-lout pissed in the West End and threw up all over everybody, and I got a dim view of that generation. Which is a lack of understanding and tolerance on my part. It wasn't everybody. But it was what was getting flaunted in our faces, and, in one way or another, has been since.

(To friends who work in financial services, peace).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:04:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
and, uh, disco...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Mon Jan 30th, 2006 at 04:36:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I did a bit of FORTRAN III on a Hitachi mainframe using punch cards in college. The software was designed to teach students and print something like, "Don't forget an EOD (end-of-deck) card!"

I will become a patissier, God willing.
by tuasfait on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 07:48:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Listen up, you whippersnappers.  That Hawaiian shirt thing is NOT going to happen!  Got it?  Good.  Now get the hell off my lawn.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 04:51:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hear ye hear ye all ye thirty-somethings, let ye rally behind me, we're going to launch a mooning garden gnome attack on that forty-something's lawn.

(please don't hit me Izzy, I just - I can't control myself)

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:07:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bearing cute gnomes won't protect you.  I'm an American -- I've got good aim.

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Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:17:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Arrr, I know from my traumatic Peanut Butter war experience that I shouldn't be messing with you.

But we Frenchies are not white-flag wavers.

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:29:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
An escalation in hostilities?  Is that what you want?  Behold my fearsome gnome army!  They shall raze your tool shacks, salt your flower beds, and hear the lamentations of your gardeners!

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Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:39:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That, an army? My Mister Supercool Garden Gnome chuckles in your general direction.

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:49:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Glad to see you've come to your senses and are offering me the peace smoke.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:51:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
She-who-eats-peanut-butter has good sense, good idea she have to smoke peace pipe with papoose, ugh.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:57:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Do Frenchmen generally consider Monthy Python & The Holy Grail a victory  for their side or the other in the never-ending 100 Years' War?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:58:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ahhh, happy that you noticed the connection to MP's holy grail!

We definitely consider the frenchies in the Holy Grail to totally have the upper hand in the movie. I mean come on, these guys throw a cow at the King of England!

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:05:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Pythons had a talent for pleasing England's too-long-remembered enemies. Every time John Cleese travels to Germany, people just say to him smiling: "Don't mention the war!"

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:11:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Actually, victory is on the law & order side: if I remember well, the cops show up at the end and book everyone.
by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:30:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And the screen goes black for I don't know how many minutes... The audience has to figure out by themselves that the film is over...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 09:37:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I didn't know the Bay of Biscay had made it to Toulouse. Or is it the Med?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:11:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Your garden gnome is a towel-head?
by canberra boy (canberraboy1 at gmail dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:10:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:43:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
A far better path than all this senseless violence Alex has chosen...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:47:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Recursive violence at that...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:07:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, we're going to have to do something about that 41-47 group too.

Seems ever more so! Since Izzy is mentally in our thirty-something group, it is practically empty now!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:03:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hey!  No need to be insulting -- I'm way more immature... I mean younger at heart than that!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:08:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Do you volunteer for the under-27's initiation rite?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:13:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hell no.  I said I'm immature, not stupid.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:17:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More than the age, the number of people really around here is the important data.

I bet we are roughly 40 people all in all. Let's see.

If we beat the 50 people mark answering the poll.. that will be something....given that there are around 1000 numbers... we have some missmatch

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 03:10:24 PM EST
We are maybe 50 regulars at any given time, with a core of perhaps 20-something ultra regulars, but there are lot of occasional participants, who come and go, and come back and go again.

So taking these fluctuations into account, to see how this poll fares you need to give it some time, and for that you need to recommend this "diary" so that it stays near the top (I can't recommend it myself).

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 03:19:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Roughly my numbers.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 03:40:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wow!  I was just planning to post the same poll! I was getting the feeling I was much younger than everyone else.  (31)  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:07:42 PM EST
On the contrary, I suspect if Alex polled with one-year bins, our age group would be the largest.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:01:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
to ensure visibility for sufficient time to get a decent sample for the poll!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:45:12 PM EST
PLEASE DON'T!

Not now! Keep it for LATER!

The order of recommended diaries takes time into account.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:57:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And what pray does that piece of esotericism mean?

Do we have to collate with time zones, traffic frequency AND mental ages? Good Lord man, that's a three dimensional array...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:12:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No, it's a Rieman space, I mean space-time, and if you protest more I'll set a white hole upon you...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:16:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You mean Pseudo-Riemannian, surely. Only string theorists believe you can apply Wick rotation to spacetime...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:17:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
10- or 11-dimension?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:19:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bleccchhh!

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:20:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry, that was a reflex...

I believe the cool one is supposed to be S^5 x AdS_5, so I guess 10D.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:23:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
By the way, what happens when you Wick rotate AdS_5? I should know that...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:35:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
and you claim not to be involved in a popularity contest ;-)

Come back Miguel, all is forgiven...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:20:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah the mysteries of the recommend science... Still an enigma
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:12:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There is clearly no algorithm. I think there must be gnomes toiling away under the floorboards of ET randomly punishing those who don't lerve them porridge. That, BTW, is Finnish folklore. And gnomes are called Trolls here. Hmmmm....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:19:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
C'mon, you know you can always front-page it when it slides...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 06:16:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
rapidly approaching 55....

an unclear case of acceleratedly arrested devolution...

maybe you youngbloods can take the baton now!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 09:50:46 PM EST
Belonging to me,
I have cumulatively,
Twenty-nine plus three.
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:11:14 AM EST
Eh, too redundant...

How about:

Aphelions me,
I have cumulatively,
Twenty-nine plus three.

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:23:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Are you saying it's true,
that you are thirty two?

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:46:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In form of haiku,
I communicate to you,
Years? Me? Thirty-two.
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 10:01:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Afelia me,
Cumulativamente,
Ventinov' e tre.
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:50:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Just like me, save the split. I would say twenty-two plus ten.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 03:58:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm in my prime (number).
by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 04:06:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
i was trying to find rhymes for my haiku... Not that it needs them or even should have them...

Then I couldn't resist trying in Italian, got it to rhyme too. I cheated a little though...

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 09:57:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I know there's a 17-year-old and someone in their 70's who still haven't voted...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 05:53:03 AM EST
I'd like to take the opportunity to encourage all older members to stop smuggling in their kids and nieces/nephews, as the <27 group has nearly tripled in just a few hours and their growth rate will soon become unsustainable. Our forums will be invaded with Teletubbies and prom night discussions, we can't let that happen.

Ok, hang on a minute, hold it, hold it, let me put on my helmet before you under-27s all start hitting me.

by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:40:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Alex - those young ones sleep late at the weekend, you have to allow for that

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 07:53:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I have to tell the truth, after some fun in the snow and a good raclette: of course I lied about my age ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:10:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You are actually much younger?
by Fran on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 09:00:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I was just trying to pass myself off for an adult. Oh well...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 01:07:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
18 years old.  And I just posted in the Mozart thread, looking like I knew what I was talking about.  I think I'm abrogating my duties as a teenage rebel to disrespect all things that came before me.

Of course, the ringtone on my cellphone comes from The Mikado, so there you go.

by Rick in TX on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 10:57:07 AM EST
You're just disrispecting what you believe is the duty set for you by the teenagers that came before you. What's wrong with that?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 03:27:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm 17, btw.
by Idioteque on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:24:25 PM EST
I've seen too much
I haven't seen enough
You haven't seen enough

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:33:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You should post more often, things look different when you grew up under different histories.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 30th, 2006 at 04:54:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Alors, let's test if I am right...

Me, poemless and (if I decoded right) Alex, that's already three, and a quarter of the 27-33 group. How many of you out there are also exactly 31 years old?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 06:30:38 PM EST
I am exactly 31 years old... plus 21 little more years.


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sun Jan 29th, 2006 at 08:06:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And we crossed the 65 barrier!!!!!

great!!!!.. maybe we are even 100 people reading once in a while!!!

Great!!!!

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jan 30th, 2006 at 08:12:14 AM EST
Aha, our wisest member has just voted!
by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Jan 31st, 2006 at 10:51:51 AM EST


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