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The Cartoons: A Manufactured Controversy? (Illustrated)

by another American Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 07:04:31 AM EST


At Jerome's request, I am reposting this diary from Daily Kos



According to Wikipedia, Jyllands-Posten published its cartoons of Mohammed on September 30, 2005. Why has it taken so long for controversy to erupt?

One clue may be the fact that, again per Wikipedia, "[t]he article consisted of 12 satirical caricatures (of which only some depicted Muhammad) and an explanatory text," but as I learned from Andrew Sullivan, an "Islamist lobby group" stirred the pot by adding three, particularly offensive cartoons never published by Jyllands-Posten, but which the group falsely ascribed to the newspaper.


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Sullivan's source claims:

The organisation Islamic Society in Denmark toured the Middle-East to create awareness about the cartoons, bringing 3 additional images, which HAD NEVER been published in any media source. Evidently, the originals were not offensive enough for the trip . . .[original emphasis]

The three additional images (which as a matter of good taste I will not reproduce, but which may be seen here, here, and here) are described, respectively, as depicting Mohammed as a pedophile demon, showing Mohammed with a pig's snout, and showing a praying Muslim being raped by a dog.

Akhmad Akkari, spokesman of the Danish Muslim organisations which organised the tour, explained that the three drawings had been added to "give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims."

Akkari claimed he does not know the origin of the three pictures. He said they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. However, when Ekstra Bladet asked if it could talk to these Muslims, Akkari refused to reveal their identity. These images had however never been published in Jyllands-Posten.

A prior diary of mine at Daily Kos, Islamic images of Mohammed throughout history (prompted by an article by Doug Ireland,   presented images of Mohammed from Islamic sources. I now learn from Wikipedia that the supposed prohibition against depicting Mohammed is not of Koranic origin:

Many Muslims believe that any pictorial, or sculptural, representation of religious figures, or sometimes human figures, or even any living creatures, is wrong. However, the Qur'an, the Islamic holy book, does not directly prohibit the depiction of human figures; it merely condemns idolatry. Direct prohibitions of pictorial art, or any depiction of sacred figures, are found only in the hadith, recorded oral traditions. There are many thousands of hadith, many of which are regarded as "weak", and possibly permissible to disregard. Hence any view advanced as "demanded" by hadith ultimately rests upon personal choice: to accept or reject certain hadith, or to follow a certain scholar's interpretation of the hadith.

This fact helps explain why, in different times and places, various Islamic cultures have welcomed or at least permitted images of Mohammed. As Wikipedia notes, "Shi'a Muslims have been and are generally extremely tolerant of pictorial representation of religious figures and human figures in general." While Sunni Muslims have been less hospitable, "the Sunni Ottomans, the last dynasty to claim the caliphate, were not only tolerant, but patrons of the miniaturists' art. Many Ottoman miniatures depict Muhammad. However, they often show Muhammad's face as covered with a veil or as a featureless void emanating light (depicted as flames)." Wikipedia links to images available at the Metropolitan Museum of Modern Art, a Sufi-connected website, and the Mohammed Image Archive (which "also contains some extremely and intentionally offensive modern depictions of Muhammad").

Against this background, it appears that the main impetus behind the stormy (and sometimes violent) protests may be

  • a mistaken belief that the Danish newspaper (which, based on the experience of their own countries, many Arabs may think was government owned or controlled) published the gratuitously offensive cartoons falsely presented by the Danish Islamist group; and

  • offense at anything critical of Muslims.

While sympathetic to any religious Muslim (but not to a violent or pro-censorship response) laboring under the mistaken belief that the newspaper published the three falsely-attributed cartoons, I have no sympathy for the notion that manifestions of religion or religious believers themselves are beyond criticism. This particularly true in relation to societies (for example, Arab countries, in general) that themselves tolerate, or even propagate, words and images much harsher than the actual Danish cartoons.


Some examples from Muslim sources:

Subject to a translation of the caption, this cartoon (said to be from Al-Quds does not strike me as harsher than the actual Danish cartoons. I would put it at the same level. I reproduce it because the supposed prohibition or objection is not limited to Mohammed. According to the Council on American-Islamic Relations,   it applies to any "prophet of God," specifically including Jesus.



But then we find cartoons that (to my mind) do cross the line of acceptability. While I would defend the free speech right to publish them, I lose sympathy for those who accept them while getting exercised over the actual Danish cartoons. (These examples are taken from the website of Tom Gross, who identifies himself as a former Jerusalem correspondent for the Sunday Telegraph of London and for the New York Daily News).



Gross: "The cartoon above, clearly depicting the railroad to the death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau - but with Israeli flags replacing the Nazi ones - is from the Jordanian newspaper Ad-Dustur (October 19, 2003). The sign in Arabic reads: "Gaza Strip or the Israeli Annihilation Camp." This accentuates the widespread libel that Israel's policies towards the Palestinians have been comparable to Nazi actions towards Jews."



Gross: "The cartoon above, from Arab News (April 10, 2002), shows Ariel Sharon wielding a swastika-shaped axe to chop up Palestinian children. Arab News is a Saudi-based English language daily which is supposedly one of the Arab world's more moderate papers."



Gross: "In the above cartoon, from Akhbar Al-Khalij (Bahrain) (June 10, 2002), the anti-Semitic caricature of a Jew on the right says: "Say: `I hate the Arabs!'" and American president George W. Bush, made to resemble a parrot, repeats: "I hate the Arabs, I hate the Arabs.""



Within the United States, should we be upset to any degree by the actual Danish cartoons without also being upset by cartoons that, for example, may be regarded as ridiculing or bringing the Catholic Churuch into contempt:



This cartoon, originally published in the L.A. Times from a web collection of cartoons about the Church sex-abuse scandal, does not offend me. I take it as criticism of aspects of the Catholic Church, not against Catholicism or Christianity as such. And that is just how I take the actual Danish cartoons in relation to Islam.


Here, from the same website, is another example:


Or consider this cartoon of Pat Robertson:

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What I want to suggest is that no one, not even Mohammed (and especially not Mohammed as interpreted, some would say traduced, by salafi fundamentalists) is beyond criticism. Good taste nevertheless is important. If we distinguish between the resistance to criticism, on the one hand, and the pictorial nature of the actual Danish cartoons, on the other hand, I suggest that the actual cartoons are well within the bounds of normal western political cartooning.


Display:

had to manufacture its own, fake cartoons to stir up feeling against the actual Danish cartoons is significant in at least two ways:

  • it suggests that, on its own, publication of the actual cartoons would have created only a mild controversy that would have passed; and

  • it raises an interesting question about professed religious Muslims who spread vile images of Mohammed in order to condemn the publication of other images of Mohammed.




"Democracy signifies rule of the majority, but not less the protection of minorities." Karl Kautsky
by another American (scwtlover at yahoo dot com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 07:06:01 AM EST
The source is the Gateway Pundit, but as it links mostly to people like Michelle Malkin, the Belmont Club and other well-known hard right types, I don't know (yet) what to make of it, and would appreciate feedback.

 The Brussels Journal has more detail, but it is also a hard right site.

Any additional info (especially analysis of this: http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=329877) would be helpful.

There is a mention of a BBC article on 30 January that erroneously showed one of the 3 offending cartoons but I have not found it yet.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 07:22:42 AM EST
You're welcome. I avoided Malkin's site because I wouldn't give her the traffic. I was not familiar with the other sites. But I have seen reproductions of the original Danish newspaper cartoons, for example, they are at the Wikipedia entry linked to in my diary. They number only twelver and do not include the particularly vile additional three.

In light of the foregoing, however, I join you in hoping that others can provide additional information and links. But I don't know which would be worse:

  • the controversy, at least to some extent, results from a group passing off totally vile cartoons as though they had been published by the Danish newspaper; or

  • massive violent reactions to the (less offensive) cartoons actually published?




"Democracy signifies rule of the majority, but not less the protection of minorities." Karl Kautsky
by another American (scwtlover at yahoo dot com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 07:43:23 AM EST
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(Also posted this reply in the other thread)

Not an analysis, but here's a quick translation of the Ekstra Bladet article:


Showed Pedophile Mohamed

Imams toured the Middle East with far more provoking images than Jyllands-Posten's drawings. See the documentation here

By Allan Larsen and Kåre Quist - 9:55 - 12. jan, 2006
When a group of Danish imams recently toured all around the Middle East to gather support for their criticism of the much debated Mohamed-illustrations in Jyllands-Posten and of prime minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the drawings was apparently not provoking enough for the purpose.

Ekstra Bladet can now document, that the delegation also brought pictures and drawings, that among other things show the prophet Mohamed depicted as both pedophile and equipped with a pigs snout - and there is also one controversial picture of a praying Muslim, who is being raped analy by a dog.

But that is gross manipulation and draws a completely wrong image of the ordinary Dane's attitude towards Muslims, responds the critique now from both left and right in the political landscape.

43 pages of documentation
Ekstra Bladet has gained possession of the provoking material, the delegation toured the Middle East with. You can see the documentation by clicking the links underneath.

In today's edition of Ekstra Bladet you can read Kasem Ahmads explanation of, why it was necessary to bring the provoking pictures.

Ekstra Bladet is one of the two large Danish tabloids. Like most tabloids they are always on the lookout for a good scandal or a striking front page, sometimes even when the source material might need a little shine up for dramatic effect. I wouldn't put too much trust in this newspaper, although I would rate it far above, f.ex., most English tabloids in reliability.

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by BobFunk (bobfunk@clanwhiskey.net) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 08:20:19 AM EST
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There is also a second follow-up article on the same website where the same authors have had the Arabic text of the alleged dossier translated.
by Arnar Lundesgaard on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 08:28:51 AM EST
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I have seen all the original cartoons , the 12 cartoons. Most of them where in the line of other satiric comics all around the world.

But some of them were purely racists. I do not think an image of a jew (normal or rabbi) praying in the Jerusalem while having a bomb in th emouth of a little palestinian babypushing it with a torah would have been recevied as nothing more than antisemitism... and frankly it is.

Some of the cartoons are pure racism in disguise (not all of them.. some of them where really trying to make a joke), they did not need to add any other three, some of them where more than enough to make some people tick.. frankly if I would have seen this kind of cartoons applied to a catalan by a right-wing spanish newspapers I would have ticked...and if the right-wing spaniard would have mocked at catalan people because we "just can not take it" I would have even get angry and ask for boycot of the people advertisement in the newspapers, get to demonstrations and demand apologies to the newspaper...and of course carry the newspaper to a justice court....

So they have the right to publish, we have the rigth to boycott, ask for apologies and even ask them to refrain for racism next time...Except violence.. anything is fine to fight against those racist radicals.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 08:21:06 AM EST
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I have written you describing and requesting your assistance in connection with a case of ratings abuse on Daily Kos.

Thanks in advance for whatever you may be willing and able to do.

"Democracy signifies rule of the majority, but not less the protection of minorities." Karl Kautsky

by another American (scwtlover at yahoo dot com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 10:14:54 AM EST
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In the first cartoon, with the people on the cross, the text on the right says "Your brother in Iraq."  In the text on the left, I don't recognize the first word, but it says something "in Palestine."
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 08:12:19 AM EST
To clarify, it says "Your [something] in Palestine."
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 08:15:31 AM EST
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I'll copy and paste my comment from Ben P's thread:

Yeah, this is right. I've known about that aspect of the story for a week, being able to read Danish. But this is the kind of detail the international coverage has missed, and I have personally been more concerned with matters of principle than with all these details.

What happened is that the delegation of imams that toured the Middle East in December last year brought along three images which had been hatemailed to them by Danish bigots (though they originate from the US and Israel). By their own admission they included these at the back of the album with the JP drawings, ostensibly to demonstrate the level of prejudice against Muslims in Denmark. According to the imams, they had no blame for the misunderstanding that arose. According to their critics, they very much did.

In general, one should take Ekstra Bladet with a grain of salt; this is the sort of trashy tabloid that everyone wrongly accuses Jyllands-Posten of being. But this particular story is well documented.

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by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 04:27:15 PM EST
I don't know how reliable this source is, but...
"Agents of certain persuasion" are behind the egregious affront to Islam in order to provoke Muslims, Professor Mikael Rothstein of the University of Copenhagen told the BBC. The key "agent" is Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of JP, who commissioned cartoonists to produce the blasphemous images and then published them in Denmark's leading morning paper last September.
[...]
Rose traveled to Philadelphia in October 2004 to visit Daniel Pipes, the Neo-Con ideologue who says the only path to Middle East peace will come through a total Israeli military victory. Rose then penned a positive article about Pipes, who compares "militant Islam" with fascism and communism.

In April 2003, President George W. Bush nominated the rabid anti-Muslim Pipes to the board of the United States Institute of Peace, a congressionally sponsored think tank dedicated to "the peaceful resolution of international conflicts."
[...]
Asked if he would have done it knowing what the reaction would be, Rose said: "That is a hypothetical question. I would say that I do not regret having commissioned those cartoons and I think asking me that question is like asking a rape victim if she regrets wearing a short skirt Friday night at the discotheque."
[...]

The Pipes connection does make this  look rather like an agent provocateur success for the neocons.  Who knows what other agents-prov may be working undercover in the Islamist world helping to fan the flames there as well?

Rose's comparison of himself to a rape victim is, I think, fairly indicative of the degree to which the CivClash crowd (mostly white men living in powerful wealthy nations) have convinced themselves that they are poor little victims with their backs to the wall...  The same mantra that justifies in fervent Zionist eyes every abuse of Palestinians, the same post-911 self-pity that justified the invasion of Iraq to large numbers of Americans, etc.


The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 06:30:42 PM EST
I'm already on the verge of being called all sorts of names over on the "Double Standanes" thread for linking to that. Come on over.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 06:33:46 PM EST
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well if the mathaba site really is owned by neonazis then obviously it's not reliable and I wish I hadn't followed a link to it.  ick.  don't like those people.

bollyn may be a bit of a nutjob, but think about it for a moment:  all governments lie, to various extents at various times.  you'd have to be totally ignorant of history not to know that.  so... if you are a professional nutjob who writes fulminating editorials debunking and contesting every official story, then at some points along the time line you'll be right, the official story will be bogus and there will be a covert story behind it.  you can't miss every time.

ya know, during the whole Iraq-has-WMD-the-sky-is-falling media circus, Powell's shameful performance with the Trailers of Death photos, etc., I and a vocal minority of people thought that the US was cooking up this whole scare story as a pretext for invasion.  and predictably we were dismissed as nutjobs and conspiracy theorists by the mainstream news media.  now, a couple of years on, we've seen the yellowcake forgeries exposed, the Downing Street Memo, the even more damaging "UN plane" plot revelation, and guess what -- yes, Blair and Bush were conspiring to start a war of aggression with Iraq, the UN process was just window dressing, etc. -- but at the time this was the opinion of marginal lefties and "shrill" antiwar activists ... and nutjob web sites like Rense and WRH.

one reason why the conspiracy theorists get these bees in their bonnet is the enormous reputable and scholarly literature describing and documenting previous loony governmental plots and conspiracies and crimes in the past.  once you're internalised the literature on the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Tuskegee Experiment, the Operation Northwoods project, the ludicrous assassination attempts on Castro (poisoned wetsuit, poisoned cigars, who thinks these things up, Hollywood directors?) [and hundreds more] -- then you realise that stupid stuff like this is going on all the time.  it's not some quaint feature of an earlier age.  it's how politics is played.  

so knowing that this kind of loopy malfeasance may be going on at any time (almost certainly is), the conspiracy theorists go crazy trying to read the tea leaves of present events for clues as to what's going on behind the scenes.  they become Kremlinologists of their own polity, and most go a bit batty in the process.  (like anguished lovers convinced their partner is cheating and watching like a hawk for every little bit of evidence?)

but because they're a bit batty -- or often wrong -- or come up with wacko Ptolemaic systems to explain their tea leaves and their fears -- or take lazy ways or easy answers like "it's always the Israelis" -- doesn't mean that sometimes, by luck or good observation or dotty stubbornness, they may not be right about a specific case.  it may not always be the Israelis.  but it might be the Israelis one time, or another time;  and a war might really be started by an arms cartel to boost sales another time;  and it might really be an American agent-provocateur who started a riot another time;  and someone who fell from a window might really have been pushed.

if you don't want to go mad wondering what lies and conspiracies are going on among the powerful, I think "wait and see" is the only sensible approach.  be certain we are not being told the truth on a daily basis;  be certain that powerful interests war with one another and collude with one another behind the scenes, that deals are struck off the record, that power corrupts;  and figure we'll know what happened, or at least get a glimpse of it, in about 30 or 40 years if we're lucky :-)  when no one's pocketbook or personal pride any longer hangs on the secret.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 09:49:51 PM EST
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