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Friday Photography Blog No. 30

by In Wales Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:11:00 AM EST

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Bump up for a lazy Sunday - In Wales


The blog is in three parts this week - one for "Ask the Experts" about anything you like, composition, technical things and so on.

The second is the ever popular "What/where is it?" where you can bamboozle the rest of us with obscure things.

The final part is for "Photos As Usual", whatever you want to post.

Please try to keep to 600 pixels width and less than 100kb in file size and take a look at Wednesday Photography Blog No.2 for the technical bits on how to post.

Here is the Master list of previous photoblogs.
Please enjoy!




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"ASK THE EXPERTS"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:50:37 AM EST
So, Colman. Tell me about this reverse ring of yours.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:06:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Much later: meeting this morning.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:08:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well I'm off to work anyway. Hope you have a productive meeting!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:18:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Wasn't too bad. Now we have to take Christopher off for some vaccinations. Fun, fun, fun.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 09:07:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
First, it's a BR2A that I ordered from these guys on ebay.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 09:06:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Next week, I guess!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:45:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry, I have hardly been in!  I can't get my head around how the reverse ring works but I am very tempted to seek it out.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:51:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Meet my son-and probable future contributor  ;)  :

I took this using my old Canon EOS 500 and film.  Mostly, I was testing its lens, as my insurance claim for my burgled digital camera equipment looks like it might finally be nearing resolution, and I was just checking what I had that I might re-use.

I had the photographs printed, out of habit, and they look OK. I'm glad I did, because the pictures on the CD are a mess.

A crop showing the original resolution:

I take it that this is a bad case of "noise".  But I don't remember it ever being so bad when I've had film developed to CD before?

And, my second question to the experts.

If you had insurance vouchers for £942 coming soon, and had to start again with digital camera equipment, what would you recommend?

I have the Canon 28-55mmm EF lens that came with my non-digital EOS 500.

(In theory, it also has to replace the children's digital compacts, but I don't mind too much buying those separately.)

by Sassafras on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 06:21:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
If you still have a Canon lens I guess you are looking to get a camera it is compatible with?  I don't know Canons at all.  But how did you find the one you had previously, what did you like/dislike about it?  Did it still give plenty of scope for development or do you want a camera you can do more with?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 06:31:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I had a Canon EOS 300D.  I chose it because it was getting good reviews, and I already had a compatible macro lens (stolen with it).

I was never happy with the 18-55mm lens it came with-it seemed to produce a lot of distortion.  The lens I still have from my 1996 Canon EOS 500 film camera-also the standard issue lens-seems much better in that regard, but it's only 28-55mm, which might account for some or all of that.

I'm used to Canon, but don't absolutely have to get one for the sake of a second hand lens.

I think the main thing I'm wondering is, with a given budget, roughly, how do you allocate it between body and lenses to get the best picture quality you can?

by Sassafras on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 07:23:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How about Canon 400D and one or two prime lenses? The 50mm f/1.8 is very good and very cheap. In addition to that, you could also get a 28mm f/2.8, which, taking into consideration the digi sensor crop, works well as a street lens.

(I am not too impressed with the Canon kit lens either. My digi set is Canon 400D + 50mm f/1.8, 28mm f/2.8, 24mm f/2.8 and 100mm f/2.8 macro. I'm dreaming of a Canon 5D...)

Then again, there are good reasons for going Nikon also. If you need a large collection of lenses, Nikon is nice, because you can use their old lenses on the digi bodies.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 07:30:21 PM EST
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That's his father's camera he's borrowing...

Not that I'm getting paranoid...ahem.  But half the world seems to tell you're a mug for not bumping up your claim, and the other half seems to suspect you of it anyway.

by Sassafras on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 06:33:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"WHAT/WHERE IS IT?"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:51:21 AM EST
A train for DoDo to locate - but I have another query. when this picture is blown up, nothing quite appears sharp even though the shutter speed is decent and it was on a rock steady tripod. Any suggestions?

Photobucket

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:53:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Did you have a polar filter on?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:07:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, it brought the clouds out really well, it was quite hazy at the time too.  I've not done any post processing to this other than to crop.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:20:36 AM EST
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Polar filters have the habit to result in unsharp pictures, but I have to admit I forgot the reason and the solution (haven't used one in ages).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:41:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I mean, unsharp pictures that look like yours above (not sure how to characterise it - maybe that it looks a bit like a video still).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:43:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I've never heard that one before.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:45:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
There's this:

Polarizer - Camerapedia.org

Linear polarizing filters seem to have a greater effect on the final image than circular polarizers do, and in spite of many misconceptions, you can use either type of filter on any camera. But there is a catch: if you use a linear polarizer on a modern camera, you may not be able to use your built-in metering, or autofocus, or possibly both.

Modern autofocus systems use mirrors that act as beam-splitters: most of the light is reflected to the viewfinder for metering and viewing, while the rest (typically 25%) is transmitted and then reflected by a secondary mirror to the autofocus sensor, which is in the camera body. With a polarizing filter attached, the ratio of reflected/transmitted light (fixed for non-polarized light) varies with the polarization plane orientation of polarized light, relative to the beam-splitter, causing the amount of light reaching the autofocus sensor to vary. This effect can be particularly troublesome if your front element moves with the lens, as it would cause the amount of light reaching the sensor to change while the lens focuses.

While you can see (rather easily) when your autofocus system has been confused by a linear polarizer, there isn't such an easy way of knowing whether or not the internal light metering system has been stumped. The same loss of light principles that affect the autofocus system can also affect a camera's built-in meter, and obviously this is never good. What use is a light meter if it receives the wrong amount of light?

In both situations, a circular polarizer corrects the problem. Having removed the effect of linear polarization, the light functions normally inside the camera, in the beam splitter, and reaching the autofocus and metering sensors properly. Therefore, for your convenience, you should use a circular polarizer if your camera has autofocus or built-in light metering features. However, if you focus manually, and use a hand-held light meter, you can use a linear polarizer on any camera you wish.

(Though I'm pretty sure that when I got the described effect in the past, I had no autofocus on.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 04:46:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
More like it:

Polarizer/UV FAQ

A circular polarizer is just a linear polarizer followed by a quarter-wave plate set at 45 degrees to the axis of polarization.
....
Of course, a quarter-wave plate is only exactly a quarter wave for one frequency of light. That frequency is usually chosen to be a yellow in about the middle of the visible spectrum so that on the average, the light will be circularly polarized with various degrees of elliptical polarization mixed in. I suppose if you were photographing something that was primarily red, or primarily violet, your metering might be slightly off, even using a circular polarizer.

Another issue might be the ISO setting; In Wales, have you manually set your ISO, or let it be set automatically?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 05:07:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks for the info on the polarizers, that's interesting.  I have my ISO set on auto but to a maximum of 400 usually.  It was fairly bright - I think looking at the tech detaials on the file ISO was about 120, so not high enough to cause grainyness.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:03:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What lens is it?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 08:46:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I swapped between my standard kit lens and the wide angle. I forget the mm range right now.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 09:30:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
So my default theory is that green/blue dominated light through a circular polarizer tripped up your auto settings.

In the meantime, I also found that (1) low-quality polarizers can reduce sharpness, (2) I found photographer boards discussing a contrast-reducing effect of even quality polarizers, but they were only guessing about the why.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:22:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks for that, it's really helpful to know. I have to figure out how to get around it now. I don't think my polariser was cheap...
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:30:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well - manual settings!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:43:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What do you use a polarizer for?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:20:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
To blur the photo :-)
Just a joke!

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:24:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Kills some of the polarised reflected light, so the classic use is taking reflections off water or to reduce the effect of haze.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:30:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Blue skies.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 04:08:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think it's more likely a case of  misfocusing. A circ polariser shouldn't affect the AF.

Was it on AF or manual focus?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:29:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Didn't we point out that a circular polariser is a quarter-wave plate only for a given wavelength of light?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:30:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Which might screw up the metering, in theory, not the AF.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:32:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
My circular polarizer definitely degrades metering performance. It does not impact autofocus.

I look at the histogram after every shot, and for any non-throwaway shot I take at least two shots anyway, so to me it isn't a big deal.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:51:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It was on AF - but with the sunlight I couldn't tell that the picture wasn't quite sharp on the LCD screen.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:36:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh yes, linear will screw up AF. I'd forgotten linear polarisers existed!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 08:28:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You were overlooking Gwaelod-Y-Garth.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:18:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well done, so quick!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:19:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Can we see it fullsize? Or a 100% crop?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:33:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
File might be a bit big. I'll have a go in the morning.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:40:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Without reducing quality (NEF to JPEG), although size dictated by photobucket.
Follow the link

And a 100% crop.
Photobucket

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 03:59:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, maybe it could do with a little sharpening:

but you're looking at features that are a couple of pixels in size and are a long way away through haze. The polariser only takes some of it.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 05:55:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
So is it largely the haze rather than me being incompetent?  
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 10:13:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry for the late reply, but I would agree with Colman.  I don't think the photo particularly lacks sharpness due to your technique or the lens given the distances involved.  The crop looks pretty good.  I've been reading quite a bit about sharpening lately (interesting if you're really into producing top notch output from digital files). The author of one book devoted exclusively to sharpening states that all digital files need sharpening prior to printing whether produced from digital cameras or scanned film. (Sometimes the in camera processing or the camera's automatic anti-aliasing (smoothing) filer, contributes to the apparent lack of sharpness.  Unfortunately, the processes he recommends are not easily explained in limited spaces, but they are generally covered in some fashion in most good Photoshop books. Suffice it to say simply use of Photoshop's unsharp mask is unlikely to produce optimal results; however, the detail section of Adobe Camera Raw contains a sharpening feature that offers quite a bit of control and good results if one educates him/herself on it's proper use.  I previously recommended a book by Scott Kelby, but I see he has a newer, but much thinner book out on using Photoshops raw converter for those who do not wish to become bogged down in all the nuances of the full Photoshop.  I had a copy of Adobe's new Lightroom software during its Beta testing and used it extensively over a period of several months.  I think the raw converter in Photoshop, though not as extensive and lacking file organizing capabilities, compares favorably with Lightroom and probably Apple's Aperture as well.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 11:50:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Raw files will almost always need some sharpening, especially out of the D200. I don't remember what In Wales uses to import and manage RAW, but Aperture comes with the sharpness preset for the D200 turned up quite high and I don't generally need to mess with it much.

When they call them "raw" they're not joking: they require some cooking to be fit for human consumption. That's why JPEGs, even though they've been compressed, may look better than the uncompressed raw files: the in-camera compressor has sharpened them as it works.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:28:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
All these helpful things I am discovering.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:52:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I wonder if Lightroom also has cooked settings for various cameras.  Good to know that Aperture does. I do believe the Photoshop raw converter can be custom set for individual cameras, but I've never attempted to do it for our little Kodak.  Might try it one day when I have nothing else to do.  

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 09:51:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe the problem was your expectation that the polarizer would remove the haze?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 03:07:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It hadn't occurred to me that it might remove the haze.  I took a series of photos for an Assembly strategy document and their feedback was that the photos taken of that scene were not sharp and accused me of having the shutter speed too slow which I know isn't the case.  Hence asking if anyone could shed light on the matter.

I've certainly learned more about polarisers!

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:05:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, the picture looks hazy, not out of focus. How sharp can you really expect the image to be in haze?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:18:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Photobucket

Anyone living in Wales ought to know this...

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:00:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I was sure I had a photo of this, but it turns I've only got it on video. (Or I've lost some files.)

Were the colours always there? I don't remember them, but I've probably only seen those pillars in daylight.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 07:53:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The colours are only there at night but when I first noticed them I wasn't sure if they had always been there or not. I suspect it is fairly recent, within the last couple of years.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 03:41:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Torchwood HQ?  ;)
by Sassafras on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 04:24:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yay!!!!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 04:28:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
(cough)

I'll...er...leave the glory of revealing its real name to someone else, shall I?

(/cough)

Torchwood

by Sassafras on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 04:47:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I had to look it up.

I would have had to look it up anyway, because I did a double-take on the name.

I didn't know Roald Dahl was born in Cardiff. Something new I've learned today.

And Roald Dahl Plass it is!

by Sassafras on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 06:39:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Right you are - and it is next to the Millennium Centre and the building you can see on the left in the picture is the pierhead building.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 07:53:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:40:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
La Giralda in Sevilla.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:56:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thought you'd get it

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 01:00:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:41:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Somewhere in the American South West.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:57:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Nope, Never been to America

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:59:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Cappadocia (Turkey).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 01:02:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yay!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 01:03:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Sassafras on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 04:46:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is the sort of thing that proves you see different bits of places when you travel with children...well, with mine, anyway. :)

The building behind is a scale model of one of the seven wonders of the ancient world.

This picture was taken in the capital of the modern country in which it was sited.

by Sassafras on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 01:42:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the European half of the capital...
by Sassafras on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:26:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
So it's in Istanbul, and the scale model is of the Temple of Diana at Ephasus.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:29:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
so is it Miniaturk

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:50:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Or, as described by Lonely Planet:

To be frank, we're at a complete loss as to why this recently opened theme park has been such an enormous hit with locals...it's a bizarre tiny town stocked with models of Turkey's great buildings-everything from the Celsus Library at Ephesus to Ataturk International Airport-set in manicured lawns dotted with fake rocks blasting a distorted version of the national anthem.
by Sassafras on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 01:12:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The North East of Turkey is on my list of places to visit. and a bizzare miniature theme park sounds like somewhere to add to my list.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 01:15:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
But but but, aint't it in North West Turkey?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:04:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah an attack of compass dyslexia.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:08:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's better than left/right dyslexia...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:10:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Which leads to conversations in my car that go, "Next right, NEXT RIGHT, No the other right"

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:23:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh don't get me started....in the company of the spatially challenged I tend toward the apoplexic

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:52:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Something about the way our brains are wired means that, when we're driving on the opposite side of the road, my father and I both unconsciously substitute left and right for each other.

So...I'm driving in Spain.  My father tells me to go left, meaning right. Hearing left, I go right.  My mother, in the back seat, screams "Left, left!  He said to go left!"

"But I/she did go left," we object.

My mother usually insists on driving.  Can't imagine why.

by Sassafras on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:06:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
LOL

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:38:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, I'm familiar with that scene from when I was a child... my father, is a truly serious case, and I inherited it (but I at least get it right if I have one second to think about it).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:39:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, there are probably similar theme parks in many European capitals. For example in the Netherlands, in Hague (which is technically a capital alongside Amsterdam, being the seat of government), there is Madurodam (which was my first thought, until I noticed the houses in the background).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 02:09:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Madurodam, despite being very similar to Miniaturk (we've been to both, part of the children's quest to leave no zoo, model village or dinosaur bone unvisited), gets a much kinder Lonely Planet write-up:

Madurodam is a miniaturised Netherlands, complete with 1:25 scale versions of Schipol, Amsterdam, windmills and tulips, Rotterdam harbour, the Delta dikes and so on.  It's yet another enlightening example of the Dutch tendency to put their world under a microscope.

I think there's also something similar in Thailand: laid out in the shape of the country, with the modelled sites correctly placed relative to each other.

by Sassafras on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:44:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Sassafras on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 04:55:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Black cat house, in Riga, Latvia.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 09:45:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Riga, Latvia
Of the much older buildings, one that receives considerable tourist attention is The Cat House. The name refers to a 14th century social confrontation that raised quite a bit of fur when the Latvian owner of the building expressed his displeasure at not being accepted into the powerful and prestigious Great Guild whose building stood directly across from his own. He topped his building with the sculpted figure of his black cat, tail raised and rear end facing the Great Guild Hall. A great to-do resulted when the offended guild members got the message. The flap was finally resolved with admirable diplomacy when the offending sculpture was turned around to face the other way, and the owner of the Cat House was accepted into the Guild.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 09:47:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A 20th century addition to a medieval house, during a neighbours' spat. The village shall remain nameless for now. Plus ça change...



You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.

by Vagulus on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 10:07:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
DoDo?

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 02:49:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Somewhere in Germany, I'll guess.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 11:29:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Nope, the Schlecker threw you off, as I thought it might....

Where are all the train experts?

Try again?

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 03:35:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
thus Nancy.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 03:47:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Okay, no fair.  I'd never have known that.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 06:44:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Heh, frames of reference...

For me the giveaway is that this is a tram-bus, which has catenary and guiding rails but its rubber wheels roll on concrete. The vehicle has poles not a pantograph, so this is Bombardier's ill-fated TVR/GLT system in Nancy (The other TVR in Caen and the rival Translohr vehicles - which I described here - have pantographs.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 08:04:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"PHOTOS AS USUAL"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:51:41 AM EST
Photobucket

Tulips are so photogenic!  This was just as snapshot of tulips on the table at a friend's birthday do.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:07:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Your picture inspired me to photograph this bouquet, which I received this week.

by Fran on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 10:24:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That looks so pretty!  I hope we haven't missed your birthday??  Or do you have a secret admirer!?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 11:40:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No, to both questions, just a very nice client. I like tulips, they are such a pretty sign of spring - and this year it was mostly signs. Though hopefully an actual spring will come soon.
by Fran on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 12:09:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 08:43:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is that your nikon or the new little one?  Good photos, I like the backdrop of that massive building being next to the stadium.  I wonder if they ever get any balls through the windows.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:34:16 AM EST
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That's my little Cannon Elph. I think that no mortal can reach the building in the background. It's probably more that 500 feet from home plate. We need Crazy Horse to chime in.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:55:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Not knowing much about baseball I had to resort to Google

Longest Home Run Ever Hit by Baseball Almanac

For perspective, consider the computerized measuring system implemented by IBM in most major league cities in 1982. By 1995, the sponsorship had changed, but the program had been expanded to include every big league ballpark. During those years, only one drive of 500 feet was confirmed by this system. Cecil Fielder of the Detroit Tigers is credited with powering a ball 502 feet in the air over the left-field bleachers at Milwaukee's County Stadium on September 14, 1991. Such renowned sluggers and extraordinary physical specimens as Jose Canseco and Juan Gonzalez have never come genuinely close to the 500-foot threshold. The best effort on the part of either player was Canseco's famous blast into the fifth level at Toronto's Sky Dome during the 1989 American League playoffs, which was estimated at 484 feet


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:22:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Are you here on vacation or do you live here?

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 02:57:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I lived in D.C. for 30+ years, but I've lived in Paris since
1990.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 03:48:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wait, Baltimore. I looked at that stadium and thought AT&T park (in SF). Oops.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 07:08:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I had trouble with it, too, at first, but the brick mid-rise behind Right Field is the giveaway at Camden.  Not quite as reliable as the ivy wall in Chicago, but pretty close.  It's a pretty neat park.  I still remember walking by it when I was about ten years old arriving on Amtrak.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 10:20:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I used to go a lot to the old Memorial Stadium in the late 70's and early 80's when the Orioles had the great teams managed by Earl Weaver when Cal Ripkin was just starting. I must say that I preferred the old stadiums without the huge TV screens in center field, but then I go back to the old Ebbets Field in Brooklyn in the 40's and 50's.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 11:14:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Believe it or not, I was at the first game that Jackie Robinson played in Brooklyn, an exhibition game against the Yankees, in April 1947. I was 10.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 11:18:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That must have been quite an experience.

I don't mind the huge tv screens so much, because most of the games I've been to -- all football, no baseball -- had me sitting in the nosebleed sections, the one exception being Florida State vs some really bad team (and only because no one wanted to see it).  The views in baseball stadiums tend to be better, though, I think.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 11:22:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It was quite an experience. I described it in one of my early diaries here.
Link

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 12:38:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, I remember that diary.  A good one.  Can't believe it was two years ago.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 12:59:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I have no excuse, the outfield view of Camden Yards is one of the most famous in baseball, even though it has only been around for what, 15 years?

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 03:33:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 11:49:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Looks quite american to me... Straight out of a Lubitsch or De La Cava comedy...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:46:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It just looks nineteen-twenties to me. Paris, Berlin, Chicago, doesn't matter.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 08:05:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
More like Hollywood's version of the 20's in Paris, Boston, Chicago... I can't recall a French film with that kind of dress, but many American movies set in the 20's in France...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 08:09:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The touch of France is probably the reference to Vogue.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 08:24:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I don't know that, aside from the name, "Vogue" magazine is French in origin, but many of the fashions contained therein were.  Perhaps more importantly, the style of these Vogue covers from the 20's was Art Deco, a term originating from the Exposition Internationale des Arts Décoratifs et Industriels Modernes in Paris in 1925 and was a movement with its origins in France.  So the name "Vogue", the premiere designers like Chanel and Patou, and style of the depiction of these fashions, Art Deco - all pretty freaking French.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 11:36:53 AM EST
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I don't know about French art déco films from the twenties, but this is the front of a French magazine from 1925:

Also 1925:

1926:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 11:43:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What does film have to do with it?  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 11:52:05 AM EST
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Because most of the mental images I have of the '20s (and, I'd bet, of most other readers of this blog aged under 80) come from movies...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 03:51:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Except fashion fans, obviously.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 03:52:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Trouble is, fashion changed real fast with successive seasons through the twenties (Exhibit A, speaking of films: The Time Machine, Walt Disney version), so we'd need a French movie from the right year and season to have exactly that type of dress.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 02:24:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It seems to me this kind of looks in France was more appropriate to the montparnasse artists than to the wealthy that would be driving such a car, too...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 03:57:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Fashion illustration/photography does not seek to portray real life people in their real life cars in their real life neighborhoods.  It is art.  It is a pretty lie. Haute Couture is about a stylized fantasy.   It is an adverstisement wanting you to buy these clothes which represent a fantasy lifestyle.  Why do you keep talking about real life people in France in the 1920's?  Go to a news stand and flip through Vogue.  The first thing that comes to you mind is not going to be, "Oh, that's very realistic."  It is not supposed to be...  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:16:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not talking about real life people either, mostly images in my memory that come from films, photographs, comic books. French imagery of this kind of dress is associated to me with the artist's studio on the sixth floor, the smokey bar, not with the luxury car. This is not realistic, just a different set of imagery. Also, dealing with two sources of imagery about one's town - Paris is not only present in French movies but quite often in Hollywood ones - makes one sensitive about dissonant imagery of same place, same time. Which is what I'm reflecting about in this thread.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:35:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The wall painting is a copy of the March 1929 cover of Vogue.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:45:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thank you.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 04:46:39 PM EST
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Actually, I remember seeing something similar in Paris in this little alley around Rue de Nesle, Rue Dauphine, that area.  I can't find it online, but I have snapshot of it.  And no, you're not likely to find such a thing in Chicago.

And I'm shocked, SHOCKED, how little you all know about fashion.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 11:20:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Springtime in Washington.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:07:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
One of the really nice parts of living in DC. I miss it. On the other hand it only lasts a couple weeks and summer lasts for several months...
by MarekNYC on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:10:23 PM EST
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It does serve as a great rescue from the winter, though.  We have a lot of these planted around my apartment complex, and I'm really enjoying them after months of everything looking dead.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 01:32:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not yet, perhaps. But give them time. [evil chortle]
by Mnemosyne on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 02:34:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Panera Bread.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:43:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Taken near Marshall, Virginia.




Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:50:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 02:33:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]


by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 02:53:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I love the dog's head sticking out of the wall!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 03:38:31 AM EST
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Thanks, it was in a little village near Frenes au Mont (just a bit outside Nancy).

That is the same dog jumping in the other pic.

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:14:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Heh, why didn't you post this as Where is it?

On the first picture, I see a table for construction lorries for the already opened LGV Est Européenne, at kilometre point 222.6. The photo below of the high-speed test TGV trainset was made from just that point (FlashEarth map), you see kilometre mark 223 (yellow table on third catenary pole from left, view photo in original size).

So I'm guessing those tables are in Thillombois. Which does have Rue du Château and Grande Rue... so I'm pretty sure it's this corner.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 08:59:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
You are correct!

I actually thought about it, but I figured with all the signs it would be too easy.... I was right.... ;-)

Here is the bridge a short distance away which I was going to post to "Where is it?", but I figured that it'd be too hard, or that I'd have given it away with the other pic....

And the Chateau in the village which bears the same name....

Some friends of ours got married there many years ago.... a lovely little village.

I was a little surprised that Jérôme beat you to the Nancy train ID, but I now see that you followed up with a little more detail. I thought that the design was neat, but my friend's father said it was Scheiße too.

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 12:33:17 PM EST
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Jérôme beat me on the Nancy tram-bus because he was on-line and I wasn't -- I was away making those cave, castle and train pictures you find in Photo Blog #31 :-)

Finding the exact location based on the tables wasn't that easy (har har!), because none of the internet maps I know had (all) the street names in Thillombois. I had to Google addresses on those streets for confirmation.

The above photo of the bridge (across which I travelled) I place here, but with the hint that was easy indeed.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 02:48:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, I think it is a rare moment when he isn't online.... exactly when does that man sleep? ;-)

That is indeed, if my memory serves me, the location of the bridge.

My friend told me they couldn't agree on where to locate the station on that line, in Metz or Nancy, so they split the difference.

BTW: Nice cave and train pics....

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 at 05:33:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hoek van Holland today





Now it's time to go to the bathroom to develop the film rolls...

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 02:56:26 PM EST
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I've always struggled to make beach photo's interesting, and there you go doing it.

Suffering from acute homesickness, as well. Is the weather looking up?

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 05:52:13 PM EST
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Not really, today was a bit sunny but still cold and next week we're going to have +7 and rain again. :-/ The spring is late this year.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 06:01:52 PM EST
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I really love your photos. Mine are not a patch on them.  I'd love to see how you post process the digital pics.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 06:29:14 PM EST
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Aw, thanks In Wales...

Well the post-processing always depends on the photo of course. There is a neat tool called AlienSkin Exposure which can help with film-like effects, such as colour casts and grain. With these, I used it a little, then Curves, then a layer of yellow to tint them a bit. Pretty often I just edit each colour separately in Curves and then correct contrast.

(I'm aware that some photographers consider this very fake and would never admit to these kinds of photoshop gimmicks.. I'm more from the "the only thing that matters is the end result" school of thought.)

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 07:21:52 PM EST
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It adds your own signature to the photos.  Like LEP said last week he could tell that those photos were yours because they have a distinctive look about them.  Thanks for sharing the approach!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:09:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And the propaganda was thick....

Palermo on election day, April 14th....

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 03:39:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oops, April 13th....
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 05:00:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Constructed a bag bellows and a focusing cloth for this:

Sam operated the sewing machine, and the use of duct tape to light-seal the seam is all my own work ...

Anyway, now I can actually focus the thing to infinity. I took two test shots, now I have to work out how I'm going to develop them (I have a tank, but it requires darkness to fill/empty the chemicals) and then how I'm going to convert them to digital.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:44:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How cool!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 04:52:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wow!

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sun Apr 13th, 2008 at 06:23:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The lead photo is lovely, In Wales.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 12:27:00 PM EST
Thanks, it is the river Taff and I cross it on my way to work.  It overlooks Bute Park and the Castle (behind me when I shot the picture).
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 at 06:39:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Beautiful colours and reflections & very nice composition..

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 07:23:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
yup i third that, it is spectacular.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:27:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 02:32:18 AM EST


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