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Photography Blog No. 37

by In Wales Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 05:02:06 AM EST

Here's a hook for your photos.
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Photos for Sunday... afew


The blog is in three parts this week - one for "Ask the Expert" about anything you like, composition, technical things and so on.

Second is "Context" as explained by rg in Monday's OT:

Two photos juxtaposed with "context" as the...er...context for the juxtaposition:

(Hmmm...)


But is open to your wild interpretation so go for it!
The usual final part is for "Photos As Usual", whatever you want to post.

Please try to keep to 600 pixels width and less than 100kb in file size and take a look at Wednesday Photography Blog No.2 for the technical bits on how to post.

Here is the Master list of previous photoblogs.

Please enjoy!



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"ASK THE EXPERT"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:38:05 PM EST
After techno's marvellous picture of a Kansas washing line, I decided to have another look at these.

One of the things I'm trying to do at the moment is make images of my environment (rather than getting in the car and going to Do Photography).

How could I make these better?

by Sassafras on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 04:20:39 AM EST
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I really like the top one. Just wondering if you were able to focus on any of the water drops to catch the images in them?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:00:53 AM EST
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Great idea!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 10:00:39 AM EST
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The top one might work better if the strut filled the bottom of the frame and the line(s) made a rhythm above it.

The problem with the other two is clutter - the backgrounds are disconnected from the foreground interest, so they're distracting.

You could make the background less intrusive with a much narrower depth of field - which is what you've done in the top one - or by shooting up from underneath so the only background is the sky.

Uber-macro on the drops is always good too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 01:03:05 PM EST
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"CONTEXT"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:38:27 PM EST
A sculpture in Cardiff Bay, which you can take loads of photos of to give a different context.  Do you want the whole thing in the picture, part of it, a close up, a view of the yatchs behind it, the restaurants, people walking by?  It all changes the view of the sculpture and where it fits into the environment.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:43:04 PM EST
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I stayed in The Empire in Llandudno last week.  The olde worlde feel of the bedrooms is awesome, like being in Victorian style luxury.  I wanted to get the essence of the whole room and the bathroom, but in many ways a lot more was gained by focussing on the detail.

The bedroom:
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I like the distortion of the wide angle lens in the picture below.
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The bathroom:
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But wow, look at the detail!
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:46:50 PM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 03:25:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
estHer singing.

rafi77630 singing.

The Context.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 04:59:25 AM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 05:40:47 AM EST
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These photos all look quite serious, what was the song about?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:10:11 AM EST
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This was a concert in a regional cultural center near Paris featuring many different groups. The first was the choir from Esther's and Raphael's music school. The second was an amateur flamenco group (I know one of the women), the third was Indian dancing, The group with the accordions I believe played English music, and the last was a Turkish duo. There was also Irish folk dancing which I haven't posted but if Colman insists I'll put a couple up.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:51:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Sign on a country road.

Context? The road cuts through the centre of the stone circle at Avebury.

by Sassafras on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 06:55:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:05:22 AM EST
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Heh. In my amazement at the tumbling dryer, I forgot to post my entry.

Receding nostalgic train - framed by a signal bridge:

Same train - zoomed:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:43:48 AM EST
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Were you standing on the tracks?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:59:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
One can probably answer that question using projective geometry...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:01:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
He may have attached his camera to a monopod and set the timer...
Or else he is just very naughty and stands on train tracks, which is something the police told me not to do when I was a kid and used to play by the lines.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:06:38 AM EST
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I'm wondering whether you can tell the difference between standing on the tracks and taking a picture with a very deep telephoto lens while standing off the tracks where they would bend leftwards.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 10:03:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yep. Standing just under a red light after that train passed, I wasn't in any danger :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:05:22 AM EST
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It's surprising how many stories we get locally of people who have tried to cross tracks and got their feet stuck and been hit.  How does that happen, is it due to tracks switching or something?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:08:29 AM EST
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Huh.... above all, stupidity, I guess. Stepping between the moving parts of a switch is the real height of stupidity (but it happens, here too). But I can also imagine someone's feet slipping under the rail between two sleepers.Or, it wasn't getting stuck, but falling.

(Track crossing rule No. 1: watch out in both directions, preferably for every single track you cross. Rule No. 2: don't step on rails - they can be slippery -, don't step between close rails, don't step on nails, step only on sleepers.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:19:57 AM EST
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I used to walk the tracks for miles as a child, balancing on the rails. Very common in rural areas.  I recall all the warnings about getting feet caught between the rails, taking a nap on the tracks, getting caught on a bridge, and hitching rides on box cars . My dad would hitch rides on the cars for hundreds of miles when he was a youth (topside or underneath, quite common in the US during the 1920s to 40s).  My grandmother used to tell a story about being out in the fields working and looking up at a passing train to see my father sitting on top of a box car, his black hair blowing in the breeze.  Apparently he was angry about something and decided to visit his uncle and cousins in East Texas for a while!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 10:17:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That's a fantastic story!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 10:28:32 AM EST
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P.S. The trains didn't come all that frequently where I walked (branch track), and were fairly slow moving. You could feel them coming through vibration in the rails, or one could put his ear on the rail and hear them long before they arrived if the crossing horn wasn't obvious enough.  Sounds more dangerous than it really was.  I suppose negotiating high speed, congested tracks would be a different matter altogether. Then, one could stand on the sides of the track anywhere and exchange greetings with the crews as they passed. Now days the rights of way are all posted with "no trespassing" signs.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 10:32:22 AM EST
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One branch of my family holds a spring meeting every other year at a spring next to a rail track, but kilometres from the next station or paved road. My generation prefers to walk along the tracks at least one way. But, like in your case, it is a decrepit branchline where trains go 30-50 km/h, one every two hours.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 12:20:57 PM EST
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"PHOTOS AS USUAL"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:39:01 PM EST
Conference freebies

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:47:31 PM EST
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My colleague's new shoes.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 29th, 2008 at 08:48:28 PM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 03:22:40 AM EST
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Did she enjoy using the Nikon?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 03:38:41 AM EST
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She's starting to explore the possibilities. She's also talking of going to photography school. I'm waiting for tzt to show up so I can ask her some questions.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 04:03:17 AM EST
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Will you get your Nikon back? :-)
by Fran on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 03:56:11 AM EST
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For the moment I have it back :-)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 04:04:23 AM EST
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Oh tinquiete pas Papa, je te le volerai de nouveau. =D
by estHer on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 05:53:15 PM EST
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I just love the colour and movement blur in these:




We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde

by Sam on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 07:44:46 AM EST
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Be it nature, nurture or imitation, but is that seriousness that of his parents?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 06:46:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
For those folks who cannot imagine what the pre-high-energy-consumption world was like, here is a picture I recently found of washday in late 1930s Kansas.  It was taken by my father.




"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 09:25:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
pre-high-energy-consumption world

Well, except for heating (insulation). Also, I could get to places where I could photograph such washlines today in a one-hour bike ride :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 06:43:06 PM EST
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Well it's true--houses are much better insulated these day.  The trouble is, they are also SO much larger and have much larger windows than in the 1930s.  (Local conditions)  And I haven't seen a clothes line array like in the picture since the early 1960s.

But you are absolutely correct on one thing, DoDo, the caption was VERY lame.  I had some oral surgery this week and am on low-level narcotics.  So the real reason is that I like this picture for reasons that would require several pages to write and I am not up to it.  Too lazy ;-)

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 08:43:46 PM EST
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Indeed, the difference is not using tumble dryers now rather than clothes lines, but rather that now the clothes are washed by small increments by the machines rather than in one, long, tough day...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 08:57:50 PM EST
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I think "washday in late 1930s Kansas" is a fine title.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 10:11:56 PM EST
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the caption was VERY lame

No, I didn't meant that! It was just that when I read it, the associations were that (1) building insulation just came up in a recent discusion; (2) I live in a part of the world with pockets of rather less developed homes. It is a beautiful picture, and a historical document, and a fitting caption, but it not's just the past it reminds me of.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:31:06 AM EST
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No. It WAS lame.  And now I am going to try to explain why.

The Great Depression hit the agricultural Midwest VERY hard. Yet during those awful years, my grandfather figured out how to send his two sons to college. He believed in education in ways only a first-generation hyphenated American could.  So here's how he accomplished this amazing feat.

My father and uncle had two younger sisters and together with their mother moved into a house in Lindsborg Kansas--a distance about 300 km.  My grandfather stayed behind to work the farm.  The college boys had to return to the form for critical moments like harvest and planting, but generally, the travel cost and distance meant the separation was quite real.

In order to finance the household in Lindsborg, my grandmother took in laundry (among other things like raising egg-laying hens.) My father probably collected and delivered that load of clothes on those lines.  He had saved enough from tips to have purchased a camera and so he took a picture of the enterprise that got him his precious camera.

My uncle would become a world-class chemist who spent his career designing oil refineries for Phillips in Bartlesville OK.  My father became a preacher.  I absolutely detested being a preacher's kid so I have ambivalent feelings about the wasted enterprise represented by that line of clothes.

My father probably hated the work.  For evidence I cite the fact that my mother had the first clothes dryer in our little town.  In Minnesota with it's long winters, washing clothes WAS a hassle for much of the year.  And preachers need clean clothes.  So when the natural gas pipeline from Kansas came through town, things like a clothes dryer could be afforded on a preacher's paycheck.  And between the automated washer and tumble dryer, the job that required a full day of hard work each week was reduced to minor chore that could be accomplished while doing something else.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 02:02:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Brings back lots of memories.  Hanging and retrieving the laundry was once one of my weekly chores, courtesy of my mom and my wife.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 11:09:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Shot through the windshield. Ignore the reflection.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 10:23:54 AM EST
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Sunny day in May, out with the D200 and 70-200VR. Enough of this anachronistic film nonsense!

The lavender is out:
Beeeeeee

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:30:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Crazy Dog
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:38:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More bee
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:49:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:52:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I am just wondering, what Christopher might be pondering?
by Fran on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:55:38 PM EST
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"Why are some people so enthusiastic about the idea that I'm going to live in a primitive subsistence economy and die of something preventable at age 30?" seems like a possibility to me.

Or he might be looking at the fishy in the pond. That's possible too.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 02:13:06 PM EST
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You can really see a little person starting to develop here :)  Even if he is just looking at the fishy.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 04:35:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Christopher does an awesome Dubya impression.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 11:46:42 AM EST
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Unfortunately, his mother

a) Despises Bush.

b) Does an awesome axe murderer impression.

I suggest that you not try to sample Guinness in its home for a while, just in cases she hunts you down ...

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 12:13:20 PM EST
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Hmmm
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 01:56:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
foetus-crab-neb_modifié-1

Star child

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 06:32:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]


I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 10:54:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hi Gringo. What part of the Potomac is this?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 02:29:08 AM EST
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Hi LEP.  This is at Leesylvania State Park in PW county, VA, about ten minutes from our house. My daughter and friends like to take their kids there often.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:57:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Amazing what pleasures males from 28 months to at least 62 years of age.



I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 30th, 2008 at 11:01:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
My nephew was a huge Thomas the Tank Engine fan when he was young - not that he'd ever admit it now!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 04:08:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Shhhhh....I retrieved my son's extensive collection of Thomas Brio (wooden train track) from the loft and loaned it to work a while ago.  I brought it home last week, and have been stepping over train track in the living room all half term.

But his friends aren't allowed to know...  ;)

by Sassafras on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 04:41:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We have two Thomas sets in our living room and another in the dining room. We can't dine or entertain anyone except the little guy.  What the heck, he'll outgrow them before too long and in the meantime he really loves them. (His parent's house is in a similar condition, even worse.)

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:54:29 AM EST
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I'm nearly 31 and I could honestly amuse myself for many hours with those toys.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 09:40:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:05:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is that your clothesline in the foreground? We are becoming rather expert in that :-)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:08:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
yes, I nearly put it and the next photo in the context section, the other had the neighbours washing line in.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:26:09 AM EST
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One of the most mystifying things about living in the US was realizing that drying your clothes on a line just wasn't done, even in dry and sunny locations like the American South West.


When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:27:18 AM EST
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This may be a silly question, but then how do they dry clothes?

I thought the past/present distinction made was between drying all your clothes at the same time hanged on long cables/ropes vs. drying them successively (one washing machine amount a time) and hanged on a drying rack like on ceebs's picture...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:48:32 AM EST
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Tumble dry to dry, I believe.  
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:50:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And how does that work? (From the word "tumble" alone, I would think of immersion - in water...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:52:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Whatever. Clothes dryer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A clothes dryer or tumble dryer is a household appliance that is used to remove the moisture from a load of clothing and other textiles, generally shortly after they are cleaned in a washing machine.

Most dryers consist of a rotating drum called a tumbler through which heated air is circulated to evaporate the moisture from the load. The tumbler is rotated relatively slowly in order to maintain space between the articles in the load. In most cases, the tumbler is belt-driven by an induction motor.

Funny, never heard of such a thing before...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:55:06 AM EST
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Hungary is such a backwards country...

To be honest, I hadn't seen one either until I moved to the US. When I was an exchange student in the uk the laundry room in the dorm had a clothes spinner to centrifugue most of the moisture away, but not a tumble dryer.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:21:39 AM EST
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That's odd. Giant tumble dryers which eat cash and break down part way through a cycle are a legendary part of the UK student experience.

These days a centrifuge would be a very rare thing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:59:07 AM EST
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That was at Darwin College in UKC in 1995/6...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:00:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
But maybe this is down to selective memory - I don't remember a tumble dryer eating my cash, but I do remember the centrifugue eating one of my t-shirts.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:05:23 AM EST
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Oh it was awful, I hated it so much.  I never had enough 20p's.  Good job I didn't have any decent clothes cos they all got ruined.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:33:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I asked around in the meantime: it seems the thing exists here, but isn't used by many; those I asked didn't see it as particularly practical.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:47:38 AM EST
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I don't know anyone in Spain that has one.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:53:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Try living in Ireland for a summer ... we have a washer/dryer and it mostly sees use in the wetter parts of the summer, when it's too warm to use the radiators and far too wet to dry anything otherwise.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:02:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm also told it's pretty standard in Sweden, for similar reasons.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:04:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Have you not come across one?  A tumble dryer is like a washing machine but it heats the clothes as they spin around in order to dry them off.  I have a washer-dryer (both washing and drying functions in one machine) but thankfully a big airing cupboard which I can hang my clothes in to dry.  We aren't allowed by the leasehold to hang clothes on our balconies.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:55:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We aren't allowed by the leasehold to hang clothes on our balconies.

Ack! American contamination!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:25:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Landlords of apartments as rental properties in this country also don't allow clothes to be hung outside of windows or on balconies.  We lived in the basement of a Georgian building in the city centre for a few years and although we had our own courtyard space outside, it was in the front of the building and visible to the public so we couldn't have things 'hanging' outside. If we'd had the basement at the back of the building it might have been allowed.
In fact I'm not sure if you owned an apartment that faced out onto a street  that you could hang clothes out.  Colman might confirm...

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
by Sam on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 05:54:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Tenantship covenants are strange and wonderful things. The situation in the UK is that leasehold means you're really just a better kind of tenant, and your purchase will come with a contract which says you're not supposed to do all kinds of things, some of them quite silly.

My flat in Bath came with a contract which probably hadn't been changed since the 19th century, and had clauses like 'The owner is not allowed to keep more than one non-human mammal on the premises.'

There was also a charge on the property dating from 1793 - although since it hadn't been legally active recently, my solicitor thought it was probably safe to ignore it, subject to, etc, etc.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 09:55:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Aren't the clothes creased when they come out of the tumble dryer?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:02:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Normally they require less ironing or none at all.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:03:46 AM EST
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There's a knack to this.  If you pull the clothes out when they are still hot and not quite bone dry but almost, and shake them out and fold or hang them immediately, then there are no creases.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:04:19 AM EST
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A tumble dryer: a machine for drying the clothes?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:56:27 AM EST
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How on Earth would I have figured out how it works from the above snark?..

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:07:01 AM EST
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Snark? I was assuming it was just a translation/vocabulary issue and that you were familiar with it under a different name.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 12:45:14 PM EST
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OK.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 12:49:05 PM EST
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"Tumble" is a motion verb indicating a rolling fall.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:22:28 AM EST
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I know, but I was thinking more of the fall than the roll.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:13:24 AM EST
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They use an electric domestic appliance called a tumble dryer.

Do you have laundromats where you live? They should have clothes spinners and industrial-size tumble-dryers.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:19:44 AM EST
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In France about a third of the population have tumble dryers. Very inefficient energy wise (heating air, putting it through the clothes, then releasing it outside). My family had one when I was growing up. So most still hang dry their clothes, in small increment, most often inside.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:48:54 AM EST
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What do you mean "small increments"? Washing and drying 5kg of laundry every 24h should be enough for a family of 4.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:59:34 AM EST
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Small increments compared to the Kansas photo, which seems to have at least two weeks' worth of shirts...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:16:59 AM EST
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Wow. I like this shot a lot.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:34:31 AM EST
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the alternative was this which doesn't show the mist obviously enough

or this which is just slightly too blurred



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:19:50 AM EST
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They are all great!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:28:57 AM EST
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This is gorgeous. I am so envious of you having that right on your doorstep!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 06:53:45 AM EST
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Not as processed as it looks:

[Genuine ET Sad Tree TechnologyTM]

When it's dark, improvise:

Some Photoshop:

No Photoshop:

Context:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 07:46:37 AM EST
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I love the spider web and the improvised shot.
Now that I have finished my thesis amendments I am allowed to set up my light table again, and stomp around outside with my camera.  Hooray!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 08:31:40 AM EST
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All great, but the last one in particular.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat May 31st, 2008 at 09:23:06 AM EST
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All excellent, but gah, you Brits and your spiders.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 11:45:54 AM EST
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Took these two in Trafalgar Square during a hot summer - was it last year? Can't remember. Anyway it was very hot.



Blaugustine

by Augustinatalie (endapressNOTblueyonderNOTcoNOTuk) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 07:32:32 AM EST
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Taken this afternoon. Alfie kept moving so I didn't get him all in the shot, yet it seems to add some charm to it somehow. I really like this one.

Photobucket

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 at 02:54:39 PM EST
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