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Blackwater in Georgia? Now We Can Call Them Mercs.

by ManfromMiddletown Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 02:57:02 AM EST

The South Ossetian government is claiming that the Georgian government employed mercenaries in their attack on the city of Tskhinvali.

Authorities in the unrecognized republic of South Ossetia claim that dark-skinned mercenaries took part in the attack on Tskhinvali, reports RIA Novosti, citing representative of the South Ossetian president in Russia Dmitry Medoev. He said there were bodies of many Georgian soldiers on the streets on Tskhinvali. "There were blacks among the dead, who were probably either mercenaries or instructors in the Georgian armed forces," Medoev said.

Wait, it gets better.


Old Blackwater keep on rollin'?

In a phone interview with Russian media, the South Ossetian representative in Moscow indicated that the Georgian government has been employing foreign nationals in the fighting.  In addition to the two black soldiers described above, they are suggesting that the lead tanks in the attack were crewed by Ukrainians.

If either of these charges is accurate, then the its likely that the conflict is going to grow more complex.  The involvement of Ukrainian soldiers would threaten to involve that country in the fighting. Much of the eastern third of Ukraine is ethnically Russian and desires greater ties with Moscow not the West. One of the most visible aspects of that is the use of Russian, not Ukrainian as the language they prefer to communicate in. The map below shows the results of a 2003 KIIS (Kiev Institute of International Sociology) survey of language preference in the country.

There's a Russian speaking swath here that extends from Kharkov and Donetsk in the East all the way west to the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria. The Ukrainian government looks on Moscow with a wary because of this, and ethnic intrigue is a core part of Ukrainian politics. The have a reason to avoid allowing the Russians to set a precedent that they may act to protect ethnic enclaves in CIS states.

While the last thing that the world needs is a conflict in which the former Soviet Republics form into rival, armed blocs, I'm much more concerned about the possibility that Blackwater might have been involved in the Georgian attack.  While the the South Ossetian representative in Moscow suggests that the bodies of dead soldiers were black, an interview by Russian media with a first hand observer suggests that there was a misunderstanding.

(Skip to 10 min 30 secs, and yes I have to give Alex Jones a hat tip for a lot of the info in this section of my diary.)  

In the video above a women being interviewed in Tskhinvali  tells the reporter that:

There are also bodies over there.  People that have been killed, mostly Ossetians, but also Georgians that had American emblems on the forearms and they were in black uniforms.

I was suspicious when I first heard this story, because it came from Infowars.  However this checks out.  It seems very, very likely that there are Blackwater personnel fighting in Georgia against Russian soldiers.  This is so wrong in so many ways.

First, this has the potential to involved the United States in a fight against the choosing of our elected government because a bunch of fuckwits want to go play soldier of fortune.  If they are in fact Blackwater, why they hell are they wearing American emblems.  What right do they have to claim the protection of the US government while fighting in a war to which we are not a party?

Actually, this sort of makes me happy, because at this point thy officially meet the legal definition of something that we've always know them to be: Mercenaries.

Let me explain.

The privatization of military force is one of my areas of interest.  It's another symptom of the horrible type of capitalism that our society has been infected by.  As the title of one book title called it "Everything for Sale."  

There is no room for the sacred, and the use of lethal force is such a great threat to the preservation of human life that there must be strict limits on its use.  There must be rules, not the vague incentives of the market.  And ultimately it' a small twist of the law that has turned the Blackwater corporation into a criminal entity.  The same twist of the law that allowed them to avoid the fate of Sandline, Executive Outcomes, and the other mercenary organizations that operated in Africa during the 1990's.

International law is very specific in defining whom is a mercenary and thus does not have the rights of a lawful combatant.  Article 47 of
Protocol I (1977)to the Geneva Conventions

Art 47. Mercenaries

  1. A mercenary shall not have the right to be a combatant or a prisoner of war.

  2. A mercenary is any person who:

(a) is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;
(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;
(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and
(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

Blackwater and the other Private Security Corporations operating in Iraq have only been able to avoid designation as a mercenary organization as the result of a very specific section of this definition.  Article 47 (2) d: "is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict."

At the beginning of the Iraq War, Blackwater and other firms got themselves into trouble because they had hired a bunch of ex security forces guys from South Africa and Chile.  Those individuals met the definition of mercenaries, but the firm itself being American (yes, I know that they aren't officially headquartered in the US) was in the clear.

The US was a party to the Iraq War.  If it is in fact true that Blackwater is sending US nationals to fight in Georgia on behalf of the Georgian government, then they've crossed the line.  They have become mercenaries, because they are "neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict."

Maybe old Blackwater ain't going to keep on rolling away after all.

In opening itself to the charge of being a mercenary organization it may become what is none as Hostis humani generis.

Hostis humani generis (Latin for "enemy of mankind") is a legal term of art, originating from the admiralty law, and referring to the peculiar status, before the public international law, of maritime pirates, since time immemorial, and slavers, since the 18th century. It is also used in the present to describe the status of torturers....

It is considered an offense of universal jurisdiction, such that any state may board and seize a ship engaged in piracy, and any state may try a pirate and impose sanctions according to that state's own law. Piracy is defined in Article 101 of the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea, and the 1958 Convention on the High Seas also regulates this exercise of jurisdiction. Under the same principles, these treaties, as well as the customary international law, allow states to act similarly against slavers on the high seas.

This has been the legal justification offered by the Bush administration for why prisoners at Guatanamo are not to be afforded the status of prisoners of war.

If Blackwater is operating in Georgia, their personnel are not going to have legal status are combatants.  Being mercenaries, they are unlawful combatants, and thus hold the same legal status that the US applies to Al Qaeda.

And while I don't think that there's case law against a mercenary firm, I think that a strong case can be made that the Blackwater corporation must face the same charges that apply to those they appear to have sent to fight in Georgia.  

Do you think that the Bush Admnistration will take appropriate action?

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Crossposted from Daily Kos.

Hat tip to vbo who posted the link to the Alex Jones article in my previous diary.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 02:59:02 AM EST
I do not know much about these sites and how reliable they are but I am putting them here for those of you who would like to investigate. This is one of them:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9788
Sometimes they are just food for thoughts, sometime pure propaganda, but I believe that we have to hear all sides and explore all avenues. I saw one commenter on Dkos saying that Osetians (and Russians) are not reliable sources because they are involved. Georgians are involved too and how come they are to be trusted?  How the hell then NATO /USA / CNN and other western media were reliable being involved in war for Kosovo?


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 04:20:26 AM EST
I was suspicious when I first heard this story, because it came from Infowars.  However this checks out.  It seems very, very likely that there are Blackwater personnel fighting in Georgia

Can you tell us how it checks out?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 04:54:26 AM EST
I was able to get it from other sources.

So they weren't just making it up.

The South Ossetian government is claiming this, and the second video I linked to has an older woman saying this.

So there's some evidence, which I peg as probably as accurate as CNN.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 04:58:10 AM EST
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Could you be a little more specific?  I haven't seen anything about Blackwater being in Georgia in a mercenary capacity or otherwise that would hold much water.  I have heard a lot of accusations by all involved governments about who did what to whom and all of that sounded pretty much like propaganda.  Yes, from the Russian, Georgian, and Ossetia govs.  So, at this point I'm a little skeptical of just about anything I hear.  The US has a sizable military assistance presence in Georgia, no denying it, but your own Russian source has a statement from an "unnamed" US State Dept diplomat who says the US has long warned Georgia not to start anything militarily involving Russia. Does this make sense?   From Komersant:

<blackquote>Unnamed U.S. Diplomat Held Georgia Partially Responsible for War in South Ossetia
Georgia is partially responsible for the start of military standoff with Russia in South Ossetia, a top ranked representative of the U.S. Department of State announced August 9 on condition of anonymity.

The United States long urged Georgia to avoid military conflict with the Russians, to avoid any escalation. The standing of Washington was clear from the very beginning, the unnamed diplomat said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called for immediate cease-fire. "We call on Russia to cease attacks on Georgia by aircraft and missiles, respect Georgia's territorial integrity and withdraw its ground combat forces from Georgian soil," Rice said in a statement.</blackquote>

The Blackwater thing just doesn't ring true to me unless they were acting as advisors of some sort. Can't imagine a good excuse for that at all.  I could be wrong and it certainly wouldn't be the first time.  Georgia could also have it's own non-US based mercenaries, but that's a little odd also.  Black skin and uniforms are not an accurate indicator of nationality or anything else, or do I need to state that here?


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by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 10:03:42 PM EST
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Sorry, my /blockquote ending turned into "/blackquote"

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 10:04:57 PM EST
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Assuming it's true, then this is both very bad and entirely unsurprising.

The US and its semi-detached corporate cohorts have driven a horse and cart through most international conventions; the Iraq war remains despite being illegal while the Geneva convention is deemed "quaint". Surely torture is now the true moral choice of nations.

So does the US think it can just ignore other conventions and allow mercenaries to wage war as it will ? Why not ? Although I suspect they didn't expect the muscular response from Russia. Anyway, the UK already does; after all you can't convince me some shadowy part of the government didn't give the plan for the Simon Mann led coup in Equatorial New guinea the once-over to check it didn't conflict iwth "other plans". Although that was in Africa nad no-one really cares about rules and regulations in designated bongo-bongo land. Are the CIA and its stooges not engaged in sometimes open warfare in their bid to create "regime change" ? Cos I really thought they were.

Is it right ? No
Can anyone do anything about it ? Probably not.
Will the russians do anything ? Yes, but we'll never hear about it. Probably a back-channel warning to Blackwater and others that bad things can happen. After all, they don't want any polonium in their coffee do they ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 05:51:52 AM EST
If Blackwater is in Georgia the question is why?

Who's paying the bills?

Is it the Georgian government thinking that this gives them a cheap one time boost in military power?

Is it the American government thinking that this is a clever way to aid the Georgians without involving the US?

Is it oil companies trying to help the Georgians take out a threat to the BTC pipeline once and for all?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 06:28:23 AM EST
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Why and who's paying are very good questions.

I very much doubt it's the oil companies. The russians would be damaging their own strategic interest with western europe if they did they were to do that and have, no doubt, made very clear that the oil pipeline is not a target. Besides, the mercs were in S Ossetia and therefore conducting offensive operations as the pipeline very definitely is in undisputed Georgian territory.

Each of the other two is plausible, time will tell which it is. Tho' if it's the US paying, it'll be a "plausiable deniability" black operation out of the VP's dungeon.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 06:38:14 AM EST
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I don't like any of the options. If Blackwater isn't in Georgia - and as someone pointed out Blackwater combat uniforms may not actually be, you know, black - it suggests Russia is expanding the fight because it wants to, not because it has to, and is using this as a convenient propaganda weapon.

If Blackwater is in Georgia, it's because the Bush government wants Blackwater in Georgia. And that's not good either.

Considering the bizarre objects spinning off from the rumour windmill - because really, nobody knows anything - it's probably best to wait until someone has hard facts that can be confirmed reliably.  

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 07:21:34 AM EST
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because really, nobody knows anything - it's probably best to wait until someone has hard facts that can be confirmed reliably.  

gah !! You're no fun

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 07:39:55 AM EST
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by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 12:03:29 PM EST
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"Do you think that the Bush Administration will take appropriate action?"

Of course they will.  The ultrawealthy will huddle, come up with a plan to gain more power/resources, and the "appropriate action" will be espoused by a right wing "Think Tank" as the only solution for "freedom loving" blah blah blah.

"... appropriate action?" ?  Have you been paying attention to current events over the past 7-8 years?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 08:22:28 AM EST
Blackwater is the equivalent to the US armed forces to any person, govt., or now, more importantly than ever, international corporation who has the ability to pay.  Thank God for all those tax cuts since Reagan. They will be put to good use killing civilians.  Exxon-Mobil NEEDS to have a for-hire military like Blackwater now that the US military has been run into the ground.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 08:36:24 AM EST
In the ordinary sense of the word, that's what they are in Iraq.

But legal definitions are often drawn inside the fuzzy boundaries of common parlance ... and that's the significance here. Its that now it may be possible to charge them with being mercs.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 12:17:23 PM EST
They've been mercenaries from the start, and frankly I'm with Kos on them: Fuck Blackwater.  They're dangerous, and they've caused nothing but problems, to the surprise of no one, since they don't answer to anyone.

And this giveaway to private armies is a slap in the face to our soldiers.  They're paid three to six times what our soldiers are paid to make life even more difficult for them.  It's disgusting.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 01:28:37 PM EST
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I tend to agree in terms of common usage.

This was "my" topic for my international law class.  I learned a lot about the private military industry researching the paper I presented in that class.  Someday I might try to rework it into something publishable.

The importance of the legal definition is that if Blackwater is there in Georgia it undercuts the distinction between lawful and unlawful combatants that the Bush administration wants to make.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 04:05:17 PM EST
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Do I tack up the Apocalyptic horse?
Will this lead to the pre-election event and nuclear exchange that breaks up the US into five regions of common interests?  
www.johntitor.com
Perhaps a "hatter" site but.....

Other globalist watch sites are reporting direct US involvement and NATO too.  Mostly zero truth and or confidence in the credibility of mainstream US "news" channels so who knows.
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/

by Lasthorseman on Mon Aug 11th, 2008 at 09:52:17 PM EST
So how long until the Neo-con wingnuts turn this into an issue in the US election?  E.g. Obama goes on holiday when freedom loving Georgia gets crushed etc.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Aug 12th, 2008 at 05:59:59 AM EST
Starting in 3... 2... 1...

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Aug 12th, 2008 at 12:20:15 PM EST
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I'm no Obama fan, but I sort of thought that it was when CNN did a piece about how the the campaigns where dealing with the "Russian invasion" and in the intro showed McCain talking at a podium and Obama playing golf in Hawaii.

I kept thinking about the scene in Fahrenheit 911 where they show Bush golfing, and have "summer vacation" on as the background music.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Aug 12th, 2008 at 05:39:56 PM EST
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