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Poster Spotting

by DoDo Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 07:36:57 AM EST

 EUROPEAN ELECTIONS 

There has been much discussion about how the EP elections campaigns are non-campaigns, or national campaigns. I thought to illustrate that with the posters I got to see.

There has been no phonier campaign I saw before...


In Hungary, the EP elections campaign started with a bang at the end of February, when the center-right MDF (one of the three smaller parties in parliament) drafted The Moustache of Reform (Lajos Bokros) to lead its list. With that, abandoning the more statist and protectionist economic traditions of the local conservatives for a crass neoliberalism exceeding that of the local liberals.

Consequently, MDF's posters were out already in March. The one below (taken from a review similar to mine by Vastagbőr) shows party leader Ibolya Dávid, flanked by the No. 1 and No. 2 on the MDF list, Bokros and György Habsburg (yes, of the royal house; he lives and works as media consultant and Red Cross head in Hungary):

WITH HONESTY
AND INTEGRITY
FOR THE COUNTRY.

WE KNOW SOMETHING BETTER.
['Better' in Hungarian: homonym for 'Right']

The first two lines were in perfect concert with the idea behind the party's re-invention of itself: an EU-compatible non-populist party that is honest about the difficult changes that have to be done (khm khm...), in contrast with the two fudging and corrupt big parties. The patriotic finish is a little less coherent... aren't they contesting the European elections?...

But, the first two lines turned out more of a problem for them... for, a number of party members -- including MDF's sitting MEP -- protested the leadership's sudden drafting of Bokros by leaving, and the party's parliament faction dissolved.

A new selection of posters appeared this past week. The most notable puts Bokros at center, and the main slogan means "More with brains!" (first part of the Hungarian version of "Brains over Brawn"). Well... no comment.


Shortly after MDF, the liberal SzDSz began its campaign, too. Last year, after much hassle, this party chose a new leader, who sought to thematise non-economic liberal values again, to get back voters lost during his predecessors' exclusive focus on neoliberalism. This was reflected strongly in the first posters, which asked for 200,001 voters who think that:

  • A joint is not an issue for the police guardroom,
  • Skin colour doesn't make you a better man,
  • Gays are members of society with equal rights,
  • Equal pay for the same job [e.g. no gender difference],
  • God is not right- or left-wing.

All nice things, and a clean values-based/ideological campaign, what's not to like about it, you'd ask? (Except for them, too, nationalising the EP campaign with "Hungary needs liberals".) Well, like for MDF, the message doesn't rhyme with actions.

On one hand, the list leader -- in all likelihood, the only one with a chance to get in -- is a foreign policy expert who doesn't much embody the message. Meanwhile, a female MEP of Roma descent was first relegated to 4th place, then said no thanks and was off the list altogether.

On the other hand, in the domestic political turmoil at the end of March, SzDSz again got to thematise the same old same old neoliberalism.

That turmoil was a government change: the head of a Socialist minority government, PM Ferenc Gyurcsány, resigned; and was succeeded by his economic minister Gordon Bajnai, a non-party-member neolib yuppie from the financial sector, who set out to conduct an austerity programme with a faux 'expert government'.

For weeks before the new government was approved, the possibility of snap elections was in the air. I guess that's why for a couple of weeks, the EP election campaign was practically suspended: parties had to maintain a budget for the Real Deal, and must have considered possible changes in the message.

Like MDF, SzDSz returned to the streets recently with a new EP campaign. This time, the focus is almost exclusively on bringing out the liberal vote with the fear of the far-right.

WHO WILL BE THE THIRD FORCE?
Who shall decide about laws?
200,001                              
free democrats | Árpád-stripes guys
[The red/white Árpád-stripes flag is one used by the far-right]

But, IMHO, the new campaign material, especially the TV spots, are very bad work. (Also see my seed comment.) And with the newest slogan now asking voters to

Vote for
the rights,
security
and European future of
2,000,000
people!

...one wonders who exactly the 2,000,000 (20% of Hungary's population) they mean are, and why they declare the threatened population/liberals/themselves a minority on the onset...


Speaking of the far-right: polls presently indicate that of all the small parties, it is just the far-right Jobbik that has the highest chance of passing the 5% barrier (and become the Third Force instead of SzDSz, or MDF). They started campaign in March, too; albeit with only stickers and lamppost posters: the giant posters appeared on billboards only last week.

Jobbik's poster features the list leader in a heroic pose, flanked by party leader Gábor Vona and the EP list No. 2. The election slogan is an even more threatening variation on "Britain for the British!" resp. "Deutschland den Deutschen!":

THE NEW POWER | Hungary belongs to Hungarians!

With anyone else in the country being what, a squatter or robber?


Of the two large parties, it was right-populist Fidesz (running jointly with the Christian Democrat KDNP, a potemkin party Fidesz uses to get more speakers' time and commission seats in parliament) that put up posters first, increasing their amount week by week.

Fidesz presently leads polls sky-high, so all they'd have to worry about is turnout. Consequently, they came out with something unprecedented: campaign posters completely devoid of any political message or even self-advertisement. It's just two words:

ENOUGH! | VOTE!

'Enough!' as in, presumably, enough of the Socialists running the national government. Add to that the Republican-style attack ad on TV, showing PM Gyurcsány morphing into PM Bajnai, with texts like "Lies" flashing over a black background. Again, someone remind them what we are electing here?...

It's not that Fidesz politicians don't run on any themes. They run on healing all the ills of the economy and the welfare state with tax cuts. Of all the new government's proposed measures, they have chosen to oppose a real estate tax on homes more expensive than 30 million Forints (now slightly over €100,000)...


The Socialists (MSzP) chose early on to run with three women heading the list. You can read this two ways: either as being bold, or -- as none of the three are heavyweights in the party -- as ambitious men (and women) looking in other directions for advancement/escape.

As for campaigning: they started just a week ago. All the posters bear slogans in the style of fifties shop window billboards -- I couldn't yet figure out a rationale behind that. The messages are diverse, from dissing the far-right and the right through posturing about mastering the crisis (again, what are these elections for?...) to solidarity and equality -- and the general message is thus unfocused. The main slogan is trying to suggest a renewal that aint' there:

with renewed
FORCE

The Socialists are also shamelessly using the government's prerogative to run campaigns for EU-funded programs. No, it is just pure coincidence that they are praising successes 2 weeks before the EP elections, really!...


I saw exactly one poster of the likely receivers of my vote, the new Green formation LMP (acronym for the "Another Politics is Possible" -- an annoying play on the altermondialist motto), which runs in alliance with the Humanist Party. I saw this one:

Do you feel
that s/he deserves better?
Another politics is possible!

Well, this poster is... just childish. From this, you can't even guess that they have a long election programme that is actually EUrope-focused, unlike those of the others (well, apart from Jobbik which wants to destroy it).

(My -- in all likelihood wasted -- vote for LMP would primarily be about showing colours.)


As for other parties running: two others managed to collect enough signatures to run, but I saw no posters from either. These are:

  • Munkáspárt (Workers' Party), the retro-communists;
  • MCF, a Roma party in a new temporary alliance with some associations. (Note added as update: Roma political organisations are very disunited; one at loggerheads with MCF is a Fidesz vassal and has a MEP who, as Fidesz list No. 7, will in all likelihood be re-elected.)


All in all: a thoroughly phony campaign.

Display:
It was covered in Salons and OTs recently that Jobbik's British partner, the BNP, got in hot waters for using stock photos. As a sad irony, in Hungary, it was the same story just with liberal SzDSzs poster with the scary skinhead: it is a stock photo, probably showing Mexican-American wrestler Tito Ortiz...

They should have had more inspiration, and done something like this spoof on Jobbik's posters from a nameless street guerilla (taken from the LMP campaign blog):

("Ubunga belongs to the Ubungans!"
The Worse One ["Jobbik" meaning "better one"])

So, beyond the BNP, what EP election posters have caught your eyes in your neck of woods?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 01:35:40 PM EST
Can anyone post a link for the BNP stock photo story?
by Gag Halfrunt on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:12:34 PM EST
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http://www.eurotrib.com/comments/2009/5/5/144556/8107/64

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:18:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Also here and here.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:20:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks for those.

By the way, how is Jobbik pronounced? If the J has a Y sound, Jobbik would have appropriately unfortunate connotations in English.

by Gag Halfrunt on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 07:32:37 AM EST
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You mean as in:

Yob - Wikipedia

Yobbo (also Yob), slang term for an uncouth blue collar individual or thug

That's appropiately unfortunate, however, the Jobbik idiots tend to come from a student milieu rather than a blue-collar background.

(As for the pronouncement, correct: 'J' as 'y' in 'yob' or 'yet'; 'bb' is double in sound too; 'i' is like in 'bit' or 'kick'.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 07:42:13 AM EST
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Jobbik's British partner, the BNP

I find some updates on that close relationship:

BNP election hopes marred by dodgy fascist pals of leader Nick Griffin - mirror.co.uk

Convicted criminals, Nazi skinheads, violent thugs... not exactly the type of people you'd want to be pals with.

But this motley crew of racists and fascists are Nick Griffin's closest European buddies.

...HUNGARY

Zoltan Fuzessy is vice president of Hungary's ultra right-wing Jobbik party - but lives in the UK and has fostered close links with the BNP.

The father-of-two ran an anti-Jewish hate website until last year and has spoken at BNP meetings.

Jobbik - Movement for a Better Hungary - uses Nazi insignia and has been linked to a deadly series of grenade, petrol bomb and gun attacks on Hungarian gipsies.

But all that did not stop Griffin speaking in front of 5,000 Jobbik supporters last year at a rally in Budapest, where he shared a stage with notorious Hungarian racist Gyorgy Budahazy.

When a bunch of fascist yobs were arrested after going on the rampage Griffin toured the police stations where they were being held.

The BNP leader insisted he was trying to ensure they were given "due process" and decent treatment.

Last year Budahazy showed his true colours when issuing a joint communique with another fascist leader, Laszlo Toroczkai, calling on Hungarian racists to disrupt the annual Budapest gay parade.

"We will not permit aberrant foreigners of this or that colour to force their alien and sick world on Hungary," it said.

(I shall note for the record:

  1. They don't use Nazi insignia, they use the Árpád-stripes flag, which was also used by the local allies of the Nazis, the Arrowcrossers.
  2. I haven't heard of links to the still unknown culprits other than inspiration, by generating anti-Gypsy hatred.
  3. I mentioned Griffin's appearance at that rally.
  4. I note that Budaházy & Toroczkai, the leaders of the far-right rioters, are in effect a rival group to Jobbik, which prefers 'respectability'.
  5. Even the Independent doesn't bother with writing foreign names correctly... Zoltán Füzessy, György Budaházy, László Toroczkai.)


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 08:06:50 AM EST
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Hm. I find the 'Ubunga' poster was originated by the magazine of the "Congregation of Faith", the largest evangelical sect in Hungary (IMO a top-down money-grabbing scam as worrying as any from America; nevertheless, being seen as a threat by the three big traditional churches, unlike US counterparts, it supports the liberals and liberal causes as a matter of policy).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:02:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is an excellent diary for one of the marketing persuasion - as I am. Thanks for the translations and background. If it is not too late I would like to see diaries like this from all over Europe so that we can compare.

What about it ET?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 02:38:12 PM EST
Even posting a few photos here will do. (In addition to one in Paris from LEP in the latest photo blog.)


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 02:47:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BTW, do you have a camera? :-) I'd be curious how wild or tame, loud or unnoticeable the campaign is in Helsinki.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 02:48:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I shall be getting down to that...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:06:57 PM EST
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From the party site: Lowres Video

The tag line is: Me pidämme ääntä niidenkin puolesta jotka eivät siihen pysty. Roughly 'We also give voice to those who are not able to (don't have a voice).' 'Ääni' (sound, voice) is also the root of 'äänesta' (to vote).

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:26:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The UK selection campaign has mainly been flyers and party political broadcasts on TV. I haven't noticed and posters anywhere, apart from one sticker on a lamppost for a No2EU meeting.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:31:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Election not selection...
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:31:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Was there a lot to drink at that marriage you went to ? </beverage snark>

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:18:28 PM EST
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Huh! Plenty but none for me since I was on my feet all day with the camera and then had to drive home!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:19:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BTW, I would also love to watch you and ThatBritGuy tear the design of these and other posters to virtual pieces from an expert viewpoint...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:58:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
They don't need tearing - they tear themselves with more than usual obviousness.

One of the sadder things about official political parties is the reliably dull and plodding media campaigns they generate.

Obama's campaign was the brilliant exception. But most political media have the finesse and charm of a poisoned dead tree - especially in Europe, unfortunately.

There's a long history of it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:31:49 PM EST
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Sadly I don't know the audience, so I can only comment on the visual profile. From the top:

soft business
amateur punk
Hidden dagger
Direct
5 year plan retro
LolPols


You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:33:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Great diary and great idea... Deconstructing party posters :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:19:49 PM EST
Here's one from the UK.

(Sorry about the size - width/height don't seem to be doing what I'd expect them to.)

There are at least four basic design/content errors there, one very obvious idea theft, and the Union Jack which looks like it's having a semi-divine blood transfusion is just plain weird. (Although creatively it's the best thing in the ad, and the most likely to be effective.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:48:07 PM EST
<chuckle>

I had to check that this is an electoral alliance with the Ulster Unionists, rather than a 180-degree-turn on trade unions...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:30:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
...and I don't know if it is just me, but I think the guy looks scarier with that smile...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:33:20 AM EST
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it's the sort of smile you'd come up with at gunpoint.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 07:57:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That was one of the errors - it's soft indoor lighting Photoshopped into an outdoor setting, and it looks slightly strange.

But also - it's a good idea not to make your candidate look like a used car salesman.

(Those teeth! Run away!)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:46:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It's the teeth, but also the eyelids and the way he bends his head; the lighting only enhances the scary effect.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 06:18:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Care to submit it to Photoshop Disasters?
Have you seen a truly awful piece of Photoshop work? Clumsy manipulation, senseless comping, lazy cloning and thoughtless retouching are our bread and butter. And yes, deep down, we love Photoshop.


You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:02:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Another from the UK: UKIP

I had a scoot around the major approach roads to the city centre after work. I found five political posters in total: four of them were this one.

I expect most people know that the figure in the picture is Winston Churchill, Prime Minister during WWII, making his trademark V for Victory salute.  So, a subtext so unsubtle it can't really be called sub. We need to be protected from invasion.

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:16:21 PM EST
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I just had another UKIP flyer through my letterbox.  I didn't see any posters in London on the tube or around Tottenham Court Road. Haven't seen any in Cardiff so far.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:23:38 PM EST
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I'll tell you what else I haven't seen-the Vote Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem posters in party colours that appear in windows and on lawns in the run up to national and local elections.  Nary a one, in fact.
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:29:45 PM EST
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Worryingly, i've seen more BNP ones than the rest of the parties put together.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:31:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Then again, the far-right everywhere tries to make up for lack in numbers with the level of public appearance and the volume of noise.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:36:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
yes, but you'd expect a few houses with lots and some scattered around. but I have kept seeing them in far too many peoples windows. (In more youthfull times that would have been an invitation for a brick)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:47:27 PM EST
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This could be why - the banner from their website:

Brutal and lacking finesse, but an effective pick up from the expenses distraction story. And effective because this is what people actually feel about democracy in the UK.

They have a similar go at the UKIP, which is great news - if they worked out how to work with the UKIP, that would be very bad.

Now obviously BNP MPs and MEPs would be a model of probity, and it would never cross their minds to abuse their expenses.

But elections are usually lost, not won, and after some timely and effective stirring, this is shaping up to be a loser for everyone.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:07:03 PM EST
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UKIP flyers have used the expenses crisis as well.  So too have the lib dems.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 at 05:46:37 AM EST
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Me neither.  But internal party stuff isn't at the level it would be for MP or local council elections. Members usually get sent a poster and asked to put it up - I don't remember seeing one this time. We've done leafletting rounds every weekend for the last 3 months but it was based on local stuff and raising Welsh Labour's local profile - an ongoing thing that we've finally got our act together on.  

These last few weeks party members have been out knocking on the doors for the Euro elections.  I live in a block of flats so the doorstep stuff doesn't reach me so I don't know if other parties are doing the same.

But we've had Eddie Izzard parading up and down Queen St, and MP's and celebs visiting places with our candidates.

I've seen UKIP flags on a car or cars that keeps popping up everywhere. Loads of BNP literature but there have also been anti-far right rallies organised by unions and searchlight etc.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:25:15 PM EST
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It is also hilarious. The voter may think, do these people run with a dead man leading the list?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:29:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It's the sort of thing that could backfire [/optimist].  Admittedly, my visceral reaction is bound to be influenced by my distaste for UKIP, but I find putting words in the mouths of/claiming the political support of the dead a bit sick. And I'm not even a Winston worshipper.
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:45:35 PM EST
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Anyone potentially that stupid won't have a clue what the 'list' is anyway!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:26:00 PM EST
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UKIP - what is that colour? I suppose it's memorable, but - er - dayglo pink and yellow, for libertarians?

The 'To help, call...' flash is good. They're recruiting, and you can get involved. It's interesting how most of the other parties have missed that minor point.

They seem to have found someone professional to do their media for them. The website isn't bad and it even has a flash video on it. With music, and stuff.

But something very depressing is happening - between the UKIP, the BNP and the other nationalist parties, the election has been turned into a de facto referendum on EU membership.

Where's the EU to present a positive case? It's Ireland all over again - the pro-vote isn't even visible, while the anti-vote is engaged, passionate (albeit cynically) and reasonably well funded.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:21:02 PM EST
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I'm starting to suspect the lack of subtlety in some advertisements is more subtle than it appears.  A deliberate appeal to voters sick of slick politicians.

And I guess everyone else has noticed the similarity of the victory salute to a certain rude Anglo gesture.

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:32:40 PM EST
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And another-Jury Team.

Nothing from the major parties at all.

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:20:08 PM EST
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If anyone knew who on earth they were or what they stood for, and if they weren't using the same slogan as the tories, that would almost be clever.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:08:50 PM EST
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European Tribune - Poster Spotting
the main slogan means "More with brains!"

They are courting the zombie vote?
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 06:09:56 AM EST
Heh :-) But, a more literal translation would be "more with wits". It is silly enough that that pointing on their heads can also be seen as the gesture for "you're a fool".

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 06:16:39 AM EST
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well looking at the poster they're half right ;)

having the rest of the crowd signaling stupidity behind the main characters back only adds to the impression.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 07:59:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
someone:
They are courting the zombie vote?

Doesn't everyone?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:10:03 PM EST
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That's funny; an old joke around Chicago is that the cemeteries have precinct workers.  :)

(It occurs to me that you may not have "precinct workers" in Europe. They are people who work for a political campaign and are in charge of turning out the vote in a specific neighborhood.)

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 05:17:42 PM EST
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