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Complique!  This subject Izzie introduces is probably too broad.  It's hard to know where to come in.  but Colman, what you say is not true--"US poverty is that in the European case it represents a failure of the system while in the US it is the system."  

Probably an element of both systems criteria is zero or minimal poverty.  But you say the objective of the US system is to maintain poverty?  That is rubbish.  I personally am a proponent of identifying the best in both systems, and I believe there is much to be learned from both.  You might argue that the European "socialist", or whatever you want to call it, is better at achieving that objective.

But, you saying the objective of the American system is to produce an underclass is just BS.  

And while you ask did we miss you criticisms of Blair (which I did), I didn't see your response to the underclass in France (Muslim and Africans, etc, etc.).  

by wchurchill on Wed Oct 12th, 2005 at 04:05:50 AM EST
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