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I'm sorry if I am wrong about Europe.  That may have been presumption on my part.  Actually, I still hope I am not wrong, but for that I will need to learn the evidence.  

As for the US, I meant what I said:  Yes I believe poverty is a goal of the system.  The social programs you allude to are, in the US, being thoroughly trashed.  The New Deal was seventy years ago, and after a fine run of four decades, it is now road kill.  

I quote myself:  

Keeping coal miners destitute was an active goal of the coal companies, and the government's efforts were blocked.  

You didn't address this, and you should.  If you are American (you didn't say) you have no right to be surprised.  If you aren't, pay attention to what lies behind the glossy advertisements.  

Upthread someone commented on the goal of poverty being alleviated by market forces.  I can only re-inforce that.  Market forces create poverty, inevitably, as weak players find themselves coerced and destroyed in the market.  Even if the economy is "better off" some individuals are much, much worse off.  This is why America had the New Deal, to compensate for that.  None of this is rocket science.  Anyone promoting "market forces" is as a cure for poverty itself is promoting a scam.  


The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 12:09:30 AM EST
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