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Damn, writing the previous, I noticed they have been even more trickier (see added line in italics): the actual average home calculation is reverred to in a single sentence, but the figures presented are the sum totals in billions of Euros for all users.

Anyway, just to give you an idea, here are the average-home figures for 1998 and 2004, with the above notation:

1998
1+2+3 (="netto"): €37.60

  1. €0.00
  2. €0.23
  3. €5.22
  4. €0.00
  5. €6.90

2004
1+2+3: €31.52
  1. €0.85
  2. €1.58
  3. €5.22
  4. €5.97
  5. €7.24

Since then, 1+2+3 must have grown to around 1998 levels or more, 4 and 5 grew a few cents (but, I emphasize, only maybe half of it being extra costs for consumers), and VAT of course grew to scale.

*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Wed Oct 12th, 2005 at 05:00:21 PM EST
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In footnote 4, I mentioned that there was another tax removed in 1996. This was the "Kohlepfennig", a long-running tax to subsidize locally mined coal instead of imported coal, which was added before the VAT and was around 8.5% towards the end.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Oct 12th, 2005 at 05:26:33 PM EST
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That's exactly the kind of detail i was looking for, thanks. From your numbers, the VDEW claims seem true between 1997 & 2004? what you're saying is that the most recent price increases come from the "netto" price and not from the rest, and that they are trying to hide that in fudged numbers?

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Oct 12th, 2005 at 05:50:30 PM EST
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Yes, as I said, the VDEW claims of increase are real (even if one component is misinterpreted), and no, they don't hide the "netto" price in fudged numbers: they just hide it altogether. They didn't release it.

They just state in a sentence that they did the calculation, and give a rough brutto/netto ratio.

Maybe the sensationalist "Lie" in the title was what misled you, I shall change it to "Spin".

(I guess they'll release the final numbers in early 2006 all fine, with full details, and a much milder spin - this press release must have had chanchellor-to-be Merkel and her future economy minister as their target, just when they decide on policy.)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Oct 12th, 2005 at 06:09:45 PM EST
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