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I know, I was just trying to figure out who you thought was channelling Hari Seldon.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 06:12:33 PM EST
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That would be Jerome.
by asdf on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 06:19:28 PM EST
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But Jerome was not part of this discussion!

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 06:22:53 PM EST
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And meanwhile, Izzy hangs her head in shame as all hope of "wit" rapidly recedes into the distance...

Aherm.  So as I was saying.  What the hell was I saying?  Did I say channeling?  But I didn't... I mean... where is Jerome when we need him anyway?

So I guess speaking of Rome/dark ages and Europe/plague and "resets" sort of put me in mind of patterns, Migeru, and your response that these should be included in the calculations rather than treated as outliers put me in mind of You Know Who.  But in a good way!  

If we could mathematically predict patterns of group behavior, I'm sure you'd be up to the task!  And possibly DoDo.  And Jerome could explain it all to us.  Unless this is being taken as an insult (which I sincerely do not intend) in which case none of it has anything to do with anything or anybody here and I'm unreservedly apologetic for mentioning it.

Help!  Paging... who's a famous, non-insult-invoking diplomat?!?  This is all asdf's fault somehow!  I'm almost sure of it...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 18th, 2005 at 06:49:14 PM EST
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I can be an ass sometimes.

Anyway, the "calculation" I had in mind was not a prediction of future behaviour but an analysis of historical data.

I might be persuaded to write a diary about self-organised criticality and what it can teach us about anything from earthquakes to forest fires to blackouts to boom-bust economic cycles. But first KCurie needs to write his promised diary on the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 19th, 2005 at 06:08:45 PM EST
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Never!  And if so, I hate to think what I am most of the time!  And I can see now what you meant about historical v. future calculations.  I'll look forward to both the diaries and try to refrain from commenting -- goodness knows what stupid thoughts will pop into my head!  I'm the opposite of mathematically minded, so most of my thoughts on the subject are inappropriate or irrelevant. I do, however, enjoy reading about it from those who know better.  :-)

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 19th, 2005 at 07:05:38 PM EST
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By all means don't refrain from commenting. Anything we write needs to be understandable to the intelligent layperson, that is, you.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 23rd, 2005 at 06:53:28 AM EST
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