i think that if we went for a steady-state economy, we actually would have growth, but it would be growth in quality of life for many, not the tiny minority, and based on impeccable respect for living systems and energy elegance, reverence for the law of balance, and desire for the worlds of engineering and aesthetics to make ever more comples fusions.

money would then be just another energy stream, not a mass-fetish, passe-partout holy grail.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty