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Why couldn't they have done this a year ago when it might have made some difference?
by TGeraghty on Fri Oct 21st, 2005 at 07:53:30 PM EST
Because they still wanted to have him in the white house, they are more concerned with their image, than with his.

We told him at the time, but the boy is in control now, his decision. Sorry.....

by PeWi on Fri Oct 21st, 2005 at 07:55:53 PM EST
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Exactly, they needed Junior to get reelected.

There is one question that nobody has answered to my satisfaction yet. Who is the puppet master? Is it really Cheney?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 21st, 2005 at 08:04:38 PM EST
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I think the real puppet master here is paranoia in the minds of this cabal, but that's looking at things on another level.

Cheney, IMO, represents a collective of military weapons and equipment manufacturers along with Big Oil concerns. They are all collectively the puppet masters. You get a bunch of yahoo idealogues in there to stupidly do the dirty work for you (Rove, Card, Wolfowitz, etc.) and plant a few of your own in there (Rice, Rumsfeld) and viola! you have a coordinated cabal of hard workers implementing a feudalistic agenda.

Turds like McClellan and Fleischer are just that. They are coals on the fire, not the real engines of the crimes these people have committed.

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by Isis on Sat Oct 22nd, 2005 at 12:45:28 AM EST
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Now, is this a conspiracy or a system? I mean, do the arms and oil executives meet in smok-filled rooms, or is it just an "emergent property" of the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about in 1953?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 22nd, 2005 at 06:06:12 AM EST
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To be fair, Scowcroft made his opposition to the Iraq adventure know quite some time ago; if I remember correctly, even before the war.

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Fri Oct 21st, 2005 at 08:30:56 PM EST
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Scowcroft did voice his opposition, though mildly, several years ago. Notice he was not asked to be a part of this administration?

Share. Share resources, share delight, share burdens, share the healing. If we only could realize that sharing will bring us back from mass suicide.
by Isis on Sat Oct 22nd, 2005 at 12:46:39 AM EST
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For the record, Scowcroft has been on the record as opposing the Iraq debacle. Hat tip to Armando at Daily Kos:

Scowcroft did say it, in August 2002:

In August of 2002, seven months before George W. Bush launched the invasion of Iraq, Scowcroft upset the White House with an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal. The headline read, "DON'T ATTACK SADDAM." Scowcroft would have preferred something more nuanced, he told me, but the words accurately reflected his message.

OK, so he could have said it louder. He could have endorsed and/or campaigned for Kerry.

Of course, the media could have reported it better, too.

by TGeraghty on Sun Oct 23rd, 2005 at 08:35:40 PM EST
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Scrowcroft has been openly vocal against Bush from the beginning.
by Upstate NY on Sat Oct 22nd, 2005 at 10:19:37 AM EST
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