Good bye, Gerhard Schröder | 34 comments (34 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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I do not know exactly what you mean by prosecuted by his action in Russia and CHina...

But I think if you set that bar over there almost 90% of present leaders would go to jail directly...sometimes realpolitik is just real real, and sometimes you make a stand... but prison? well may be you are taling about something really awful that I do not know.

In any case, good bye Geard... have fun

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 04:50:01 AM EST

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I do not know exactly what you mean by prosecuted by his action in Russia and CHina...

Let me guess. Jan probably resents the fact that Schröder struck some major economic deals with China and Russia, right?

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819

by Ritter on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 09:39:49 AM EST
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No, I resent the chancellors decision to call Mr. Putin a "true democrat" and to completely ignore the human rights situation in Chechnya. Worse, Schröder even supported Russias so called "war on terror".

Regarding China I disapprove the policy to end the ban on weapons exports.

by jandsm on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 09:47:55 AM EST
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That's what I thought. For the record: I think that Putin showed great courage and a remarkable sense of defending the new democratic system when he cracked down on the oil industry's bloodsuckers. And I'm for lifting the arms embargo against China. I also support their re-unification with Taiwan policies.

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819

by Ritter on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 10:26:51 AM EST
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Putin defending the democratic system?! And since when is a new set of thieves stealing from the old bunch anything laudable? Not to mention that Putin's methods in the Caucasus make America's rights abuses in its prison camps and the war in Iraq look like models of due process and humane warfare.

Plus, why do you support a dictatorship conquering a democracy in the case of China and Taiwan?

by MarekNYC on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 12:04:25 PM EST
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Sorry, Ritter, cannot follow you there.
Putin did not "crack down on the oil industry's bloodsuckers" - he replaced them with his pal bloodsuckers, incompetent ones at that, and he destroyed whatever was left of Russian democracy.

Oh, and he got a few tens of thousand of Chechens massacred, and he doesn't control the Red Army.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 12:19:14 PM EST
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And he handled the Moscow theatre and Beslan School hostage situations incompetently if not criminally. Not to speak of using the Moscow apartment building and underground station bombings to crack down on civil liberties.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 12:27:08 PM EST
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OK, it is Ok, then you are really a high standard guy...if Schroder should go to prison I can not imagine what you would do with any of the presidents of the US since the beginning of the last century...or a lot of others European presidents.

Hopefully it is a standard that one day we could apply...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 11:18:12 AM EST
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come on :-) this is an ironic diary. don't take everything in it too seriously..

by jandsm on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 12:57:18 PM EST
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Serious. me? are you kidding?

Well, maybe, yes, my hope was too serous for my normal tastes.. but you know.. sometimes something nice appears in me.. and I can not avoid it..

Call me a nice wonderful (and quite handsome) guy... what can I do then.. yes I show my sensibility...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Fri Nov 18th, 2005 at 04:12:41 PM EST
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Good bye, Gerhard Schröder | 34 comments (34 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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