It's for real in Isreal-rael (UPDATE) | 54 comments (54 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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I can't see how the US' middle-east policies actually further US national interest. I really can't.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:03:59 AM EST
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I think only the AIPAC knows...

I could give you their telephones.. he ehhehe he

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:09:26 AM EST
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Isn't the AIPAC embroiled in a spy scandal? Juan Called has called for them to be branded an agent of a foreign power.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:12:19 AM EST
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They are..spying the US...covered in the media hardly at any length...

In Israel it was indeed covered....who was against AIPAC in the US...???

Neo-con stuff, double loyalties..

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:22:32 AM EST
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Du you think they will be sentenced in the end?

For that matter, do you believe Fitzgerald will manage to get someone behind bars?

(No, don't read these questions as an expression of my general cynism, I'm truly curious what you think.)

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by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:23:04 AM EST
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I think no and no.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:25:16 AM EST
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Nor can I. It seems part misguided domestic voter-base considerations, part even more misguided ideology, part foreign policy (and foreign policy establishment) inertia.

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by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 10:09:28 AM EST
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I think you are absolutely correct, particularly in a real politik sense. US policy likely hurts US interests. But I think most Americans believe that the Israeli's deserve, what they view, as a "fair shake". There is a strong Christian population, and a Jewish one. The "Exodus" movie and book, most of us were raised on. So they just look like a scrappy group, that has had a lot of tough breaks over a couple of millenia, and Americans believe need to have a little land to live in peace. I believe that polls over time bear this out, example.

I'm not arguing the case btw, as I know there is a very clear Palestinean argument,,,but I think this is the reason, and in reality it hurts US national interest--but viewed as just the right thing to do.

by wchurchill on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 03:50:23 PM EST
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