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Currently, their website only has their stories published in yesterday afternoon's edition, which includes the information that the Swiss investigator on behalf of the Council of Europe has the information from Human Rights Watch, as well as "other information" which he would not comment but said strongly suggested that there has been a network of small prisons, each with one or a few prisoners - and altogether it confirmed that the suspicions were very credible.

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 03:51:04 AM EST
US violations of international treaties, each...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 03:58:03 AM EST
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I think we're going to see several EU Member States and applicant states and others implicated in this before it's over.

Let's hope that the Commission does not try to cover this up. At least with the Council of Europe involved, we may see some investigation that we would not have otherwise seen. The Council of Europe does not exist under the same political constraints as the EU (though it does have others). The Council of Europe exists in a legal/human rights/democracy professional ethos or atmosphere. This is its reason for being, so it is likely to be a bit more forceful and diligent in its investigation. If the Council of Europe cannot stop something like this IN Europe, then its reason for its existence is truly in question.

by gradinski chai on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 04:10:45 AM EST
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The US gets away with this through very paltry side payments in the form (usually) of military aid. I think the EU should seriously consider undercutting the US' network of "small client states" by offering substantial economic cooperation and aid.

It would be a good use of my tax money and my share of the EU budget.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 08:46:14 AM EST
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so this is a very significant precedent that is about to be set (obviously)...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:20:55 PM EST
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