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The threat to cultural coherence that I am talking about is not from without, but from within (through immigration).

Yes, part of the issue and you are already seeing the backslash, Danemark, France, Netherlands. That's also a horse the PP will ride hard to go back to power in Spain. Also, Europe = Schengen.

Acculturation by European institutions played no role in my comment. Also, I was not the one who clamored for a supranational democratic institution.

Europe does play a big role because it allows a lot of things to escape the reach of national (democratic) policies. Making it worst, it's often to simply nullify politics (and leave the issues in private hands), not to assume responsability itself.

Also, I was not the one who clamored for a supranational democratic institution.

Eh oh Migeru, be honest! You were the one who doubted the importance of the nation-state. Tsk tsk tsk :>

I'll close on that. I'm running late on my work :(
by Francois in Paris on Tue Dec 13th, 2005 at 10:05:16 AM EST
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Touche.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 13th, 2005 at 10:07:57 AM EST
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That's also a horse the PP will ride hard to go back to power in Spain.
I know that you are right on this, and I am horrified because Zapatero is doing the right thing both on immigration and on Spain's nationalities, but it will cost him.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 13th, 2005 at 10:10:15 AM EST
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[OT] Zapatero looks to me as a spanish Jospin. Am I wrong?
by toyg (g.lacava@gmail.com) on Wed Dec 14th, 2005 at 01:38:47 PM EST
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I don't know. Explain what you mean by "a Jospin".

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Dec 14th, 2005 at 05:33:41 PM EST
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