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The link is as follows: http://www.eurotrib.com/files/3/051230__torture_fax.jpg and can be shared widely.

another link is http://users.pandora.be/quarsan/craig/npaper.jpg

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 03:41:11 AM EST
Transscript here: http://www.blairwatch.co.uk/node/715

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 03:44:59 AM EST
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Oui, I don't know how you posted without closing the italics, but it's disturbing the rest of the screen. would you mind posting your comment again below so that i can delete this one? Thanks.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 03:42:49 AM EST
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double checked, copy and pasted from a text document.

checked Oui's page settings for sig line. Is OK too.

You can see in my comment that the last text line is non-italics.

Never mind - delete the comment.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 04:29:04 AM EST
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Sorry, was not coming from the comments, but from the diary itself. Found it and corrected it. Sorry again. Thanks for checking.

(PS - you cannot leave html open in the comments, it won't post)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 31st, 2005 at 09:59:11 AM EST
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No conspiracy, sorry chap ... got just facts today!

UK Secrecy Act muffled torture docs sent to Boomer - HERE ◊ by gandhi

  «« click on pic for Paris Memorial
Nicholas John Andrew Langman - SAS agent

Preceded by yesterday's revelation of SAS agent in Athens, accomplice in abduction of Pakistanis after July 7 London bombings.
Athens abductions part III - MI6 officer named ◊ by talos

Cross-posted in SusanHu's frontpage diary   &   here
Thu Dec 29th, 2005 at 11:26:00 AM PST

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 04:24:18 AM EST

Hi all - I thought I would have a peek in here... since I am an expat after all.

I have been up pretty much all night on this leak - so it's time for a nap methinks. I am the founder of expatforums.org - a two year old site for english yapping expats in Europe. Most of the folks live in the Netherlands - as do I. I think this might be a good second home for me.

From Empire Burlesque - members of the "I'll Publish the al Jazeera Memo" group who had it up soon after the email came through from Blair Watch - the coordinators - who have assembled hundreds of bloggers to publish the the al Jazeera memo but gave us a trial run late last night.

The link for the article and RSS viral watch

Track this project virally in real time (well... almost) with an RSS scraper and comprehensive links to the blogs initially involved on both sides of the pond . It automatically searches for keywords related to the Murray Torture Telegrams (as opposed to the Downing Street Memos) on Technorati, Google News and Yahoo News UK, to give the latest updates on where the story is going and how it is being disseminated. This is an experiment of sorts as we are in a unique position to see the 'internet blog effect' of a leaking story which the MSM could not touch in the UK due to the draconian Secrets Act. It's essentially information warfare. Keeping people quiet is not as easy anymore when a former United Kingdom Ambassador for Uzbekistan can make a decision in a fraction in time - and six hours later tens of thousands of people have seen the evidence... it's unstoppable at that point.



Atlantic Free Press
by ghandi (expatforums@gmail.com) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 10:41:30 AM EST

We have the very, very fresh Channel 4 interview with Murray streaming on the Empire Burlesque podcaster to help take some of the stress of BlairWatch. You can stream it on the page or download it. We use Loudblog Open Source software if anyone interested.

Don't forget to check on our rss scraper - it's getting interesting now that the mainstream media is starting to pay attention. If you are blogging on this - Empire Burlesque is an excellent source for research.

Atlantic Free Press

by ghandi (expatforums@gmail.com) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 06:30:03 PM EST
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Thanks for posting some comments here. I've seen your diaries over at Booman's. The two sites are associated, but the communities are increasingly diverging, as it should be (one focuses on the US, the other on Europe), and it makes a lot of sense to crosspost such big stories on both, if it's not too much of a bother.

Welcome to eurotrib in any case!

PS - you are associated with Chris Floyd, right?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 31st, 2005 at 10:03:46 AM EST
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Reflecting recent spats, I changed the title.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 11:45:01 AM EST
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Coverage in half-hour news broadcast on BBC World Radio.

'Torture Intelligence' Criticised

TASHKENT (BBC News) Oct. 11, 2004 -- The UK ambassador to Uzbekistan has criticised MI6 for using intelligence allegedly gained through torture, according to newspaper reports.

In a confidential internal document leaked to the Financial Times, Craig Murray said Uzbek officials abused prisoners to extract information. The intelligence was used by MI6 after being passed on by the CIA, he alleges.  

According to the FT, Mr Murray says "Torture dupes are forced to sign up to confessions showing what the Uzbek government wants the US and UK to believe." And he claims the Uzbeks exaggerate the activity of local militants and their links with al-Qaeda.

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Tashkent City of Uzbekistan

Mr Murray has been an outspoken critic of the regime's human rights record throughout his two years as ambassador. The private Foreign Office memo reportedly shows Mr Murray's concerns about Britain's use of intelligence gained by such means.

The Foreign Office has responded saying the British government, including intelligence agencies, has never used torture to obtain information or incited others to do so.

UZBEK RIOTS or another "Orange Revolt"?

OSCE Chairman de Hoop Scheffer Visit to Central Asia Republics

The Hague, 17 July 2003 -- The OSCE Chairman-in-Office, Netherlands Foreign Minister Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, returned from a five-day visit to Central Asia convinced that there is no alternative to continued dialogue with the Central Asian states.

"I am satisfied that I have been able to visit Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan and that I had discussions with the highest authorities of these countries as well as with representatives of the civil society", the Chairman-in-Office said. "I hope that the personal contact I have established with the Presidents and Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the four countries will help us translate the priority this Chairmanship has given to Central Asia into intensified activities and cooperation."

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Dec 30th, 2005 at 08:07:35 PM EST
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New diary now published at European Tribune ::

Ours is a brand-new world of allatonceness -
The Murray Torture Telegrams ◊
by gandhi

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat Dec 31st, 2005 at 10:24:59 AM EST
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