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It's really disingenuous to put that at the bottom of a substanceless rant like that. Why should anyone spend valuable time combing through all that and attempting to calmly bring you some facts? That's a very serious question I'm asking you: why?

So I'm not going to spend any more of my time on you. I'll just tell you this: your whole piece stinks of knee-jerk antisemitism.

Yuck.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 12:18:40 PM EST
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... I'll just tell you this: your whole piece stinks of knee-jerk antisemitism.

i don't think that is the case. why would you tell me such a thing, and what exactly do you mean ?

i find it rather gross how people who wouldn't know a "semite" if one smacked them in the face need to hurl epithets at people who happen to entertain slightly different opinions on matters of some relevancy. the person posting from seattle pretty much sums up the problem.

but just for the record, let it be known that i proudly find myself in the same camp with another notable "anti-semite", who was even arrested last week because of his unpopular views. just like this person, i entertain the notion that the most rational and least racist of all possible solutions to the israel/palestine conflict is that of one state and one law for all inhabitants of the place. i suggest you check the "anti-semitic" lucubrations of this russian jew who lives in jaffa for yourself: http://israelshamir.net

the fact that i comment on ahmadinejad's provocation does not mean that i agree with them. i do not.

by name (name@spammez_moi_sivouplait.org) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 03:54:22 PM EST
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Condemned by your own words. Shamir, a Jewish convert to Christianity is rabidly antisemitic.

The "liberal democracy and human rights" doctrine carried by the US marines even across Tigris and Oxus is a crypto-religion, an extreme heretical form of Judaised Christianity. Alexander Panarin, a modern (deceased) Russian political philosopher, noticed the anti-Christian character of the American doctrine: "The new American vision of de-contextualised Goods and their de-socialised Consumers is a heathen myth"; in his view the US doctrine represents a lapse into heathendom.

In my view, this new religion can be called Neo-Judaism; its adepts imitate classic Jewish attitudes; Jews often act as priests of the new faith and they are considered sacred by its adepts.

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Still, there is a strong feeling of continuity between Palaeo-Judaism and the newer version. The Jewish state is the enactment of the paranoid Jewish fear and loathing of the stranger, while the Cabal policies of Pentagon are another manifestation of this same fear and loathing on global scale. The ideas for Neo-Judaism were formed by Jewish nationalist Leo Strauss, and promoted by Jewish writers of the New York Times. There is a project of supplying Neo-Judaism with exoteric rites by constructing a new Jerusalem Temple on the site of al Aqsa Mosque.

Neo-Judaism is the unofficial faith of the American Empire, and the war in the Middle East is indeed the Neo-Judaic Jihad. It is intuited by millions: Tom Friedman of the NY Times wrote that the Iraqis call the American invaders "Jews". Neo-Judaism is the cult of globalism, neo-liberalism, destruction of family and nature, anti-spiritual and anti-Christian.

This is also an anti-social cult of commodification, alienation and uprooting; fighting cohesive society, solidarity, tradition - in short, fighting the values upheld by the three great churches. As the church has lost its position in the West, the adepts of Neo-Judaism consider Western Christendom almost dead and fight it by bloodless means through their ADL, ACLU and other anti-Christian bodies. The Village Voice calls Bush `the Christian', The New York Times writes of priests' child abuse, Schwarzenegger demolishes a church in The Last Days, - this is the Western front of the Neo-Judaic Jihad.

http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Theopolitics.htm

The psychological portrait should be recognizable for the Ukrainians. Yes, the Civilization X presently at war with the rest of the world, is this eminently familiar and contemptible figure, a medieval Ukrainian Jew, a usurer, tax collector and alcohol pusher magnified by a factor of million. Its size impeded our recognition, for it is not easy to recognize an elephant-size louse.  TOP

Centuries ago, this figure ruled your steppes. After expulsion from France and Spain, the immigrant Jews settled in the Ukraine, suborned the timid native Jews and in short time strategically placed themselves between Polish landlords and Ukrainian peasants. They had lent money to landlords and peasants, pushed alcohol, managed the feudal estates, and eventually became the ultimate source of power. The Jews fought the Church, for the Church objected to their liberal trade in alcohol and usury. Until nowadays, the Jewish word kabala (receipt) is used in the Ukrainian language for `debt enslavement'.

The Civilization X pushes heroin instead of vodka, loans out billions instead of two rubles, sucks out the wealth of nations instead of meager livelihood of a peasant, fears nuclear weapons rather than moujik's axe, but it is the same complex of ideas and methods. In short, Civilization X is a dangerous and aggressive mutation of Jewish spirit grafted on the Anglo-American basis. Huntington was right - up to a point. The Conflict of Civilizations is unavoidable, but it is not a conflict of Christendom and Islam, but the conflict of Christians and Muslims versus Neo-Jews

http://www.israelshamir.net/English/civilx.htm

by MarekNYC on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 04:43:30 PM EST
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Centuries ago, this figure ruled your steppes. After expulsion from France and Spain, the immigrant Jews settled in the Ukraine, suborned the timid native Jews and in short time strategically placed themselves between Polish landlords and Ukrainian peasants.


A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 04:57:55 PM EST
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Possibly, if you tar everyone and everything around you that says things you disagree with, with one brush... well, I guess you see a lot of tar.

The person was putting out complex thoughts. If you want to disagree, that's healthy. Simply calling him/her a racist without even picking out one point to refute with facts and reasons? How can that further our group's understanding?

by AllisonInSeattle on Sat Dec 10th, 2005 at 05:18:15 AM EST
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tar everyone and everything around you that says things you disagree with, with one brush

I'm afraid that you're the one who's spreading it wide there. I spoke to one person, not "everyone and everything". I didn't say what I said because that person said "things (I) disagree with". And what do you mean by "one brush"? The word "antisemitism"? But if I think it's the case that this commenter's writing betrays antisemitic feelings, are you suggesting I must use nuance and political correctness and not plain words? You said above you were relieved to find everyone here didn't jump on you out of a sense of political correctness, and now you want to apply your idea of pc to other users?

You think that commenter was putting out complex thoughts. Fine. I don't. You get into a complex discussion with her/him if you like. If you don't mind, I won't.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Dec 10th, 2005 at 09:01:45 AM EST
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